mosx; I play with my DS and Wii online all the time, lag-free, over 802.11g. I do the same with my MacBook.
DS and Wii? Not to sound like a jerk, but when you can play REAL games on those systems, then we can talk. Okay?
MacBook? The Intel GPU in all of the revisions of the MacBook can barely choke out 30fps in UT2k4 at 640x480 with the lowest quality settings. I know this because I have one.
Considering you have a MacBook, Wii, and DS, you wouldn't necessarily notice the poor connection quality either because of the games you are playing, or because of the fact that they run so terrible to begin with.
Faulty comparison; the lowest-end PS3 still has every single thing the "fully functional" XBox 360 Premium has and then some (a bigger hard drive, Blu-ray, and WiFi).
And the high end XBox 360 was $449 last I checked (the Elite).
The $399 PS3 lacks a few things the Xbox360 has. Backwards compatibility for one. As well as good games, a good online service, HD movie and TV downloads, the ability to play your own music while playing games, easy media streaming, good games, etc.
Wifi? Again, useless. Blu-ray? Also useless. Every single PS3 game released so far has been proven (good ole hackers) to be able to fit on a DVD as long as the dummy data was removed from the disc. Blu-ray is ueless for movies too. Movie studio support keeps going back and forth, consumers aren't buy either format regardless of what BDA says, and my upscaling DVD player makes that $10 new DVD look about 90% as good as that $35 blu-ray disc. Bigger HDD? Both the Xbox360 and PS3 shortchange you on that. However, 40GB isn't much to brag about. It'll fill up fast considering the PS3 has no good way to stream media from a PC or Mac.
A 360 with HD-DVD, 2 controllers, and wi-fi is $580. Add a couple games and you're looking at $700.
Except you don't need HD-DVD. It's not being forced upon you like blu-ray. Again, every PS3 game, with the dummy data removed, would fit on a nice (and mostly single layer) DVD. Buying into blu-ray or HD-DVD at this point is ridiculously stupid. People only include the HD-DVD option in the Xbox360 price when they have to justify their own mistake in purchasing the PS3.
Xbox360 comes with a wireless controller. Only need one extra. But, seeing as how most people who are "Gamers" these days own an Xbox360, your friends can bring their own controllers. Wifi? Again, useless. Especially when using the Xbox360 to its fullest capability, like streaming HD video over the network from a Media Center PC.
What? I've not got the best connection. 512kbps through a (albeit powerful) wireless router a good 30 or so metres and 2 walls and a floor away. Yet I find it easy playing HL2 deathmatch (ping of 12) and TF2 (ping of 18). I'm looking at the list of other people playing and they're at 5-100 ping. I used to get drops before we bought an N-band router. It's perfect now. I think you need to buy a new router if it's as bad as what you're making it sound...
You're one of the few people who have claimed to have a good connection over wifi. I've never seen it done myself.
And, again, WiFi is useless when you want to use the Xbox360 to its fullest capability, such as video streaming.
Microsoft is the ONLY company that charges for online play. Every PC game has had free online play for over a decade, and games on the PC that are ported to the XBox have free online play in the PC version.
Nintendo, Sony, and every PC game maker have free online play.
And look at how bad the online experience is on Nintendo and Sony consoles. I played a lot of PS2 games online and it paled in comparison to what Xbox Live offers you. Look at Nintendo's stupid service. Friend codes?

Why is it that Nintendo can always get away with doing idiotic things (cartridges in the CD era, the Wii, DS) and everyone acts like its a gift from God?
I'd take Ocarina of Time over any modern game, honestly. Yeah, the graphics don't look very good, but you know what? It's got the story, and it makes you think and it has some very good stage design. It's one of the best games of all time.
Ocarina of Time was not one of the best games ever, despite what the idiotic reviewers and fanboys say. It was average at best. The story was just a rehashed slight rewrite of the SNES story, the gameplay was dull and boring (where were all the enemies?) and all you had to do to beat most enemies was mash a button after auto-targetting them. The most "challenging" part of the game was not pulling your hair out over how stupid the Water Temple was designed. No, it was not hard, just stupid. The character development was non-existant. All you did was walk from point A to point B. Then at point B you'd go into a "dungeon" and push a couple of blocks around, light a couple of torches or something on fire, or shoot an eye in the wall, and you'd meet a ridiculously easy boss that only had to be hit a couple of times after going through their unncessarily complex animation to make them appear to be "fighting" you.
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last great game that Nintendo made was Super Mario 64. The last "good" game they released was Mario Kart 64. It's been down hill ever since, with titles that make you think "wtf is this crap" like Yoshi's Story or Super Mario Sunshine (yes I had a GameCube and promptly returned it after putting 5 hours into that game, 3 hours into Metroid Prime, and being disgusted by Zelda: The Wind Waker).
ps3 no doubt.
already mentioned: 30% failure rate on xbox 360, <1% on ps3.
throw in blu ray and its a no brainer.
Proof of the failure rate on the Xbox360 and PS3? PS3's failure rate hasn't been talked about yet because not enough people have bought the systems for any to fail. Plus those who have bought them rarely play them. Look at what happened to the PS2. Those didn't start failing until the 2 year old mark. When they did start to fail, Sony had to lose a class action lawsuit before they finally started fixing them for free. At least Microsoft extended warranties, refunded repair costs, and admitted to the problem.
With the PS3, you get a more reliable machine (a 3% failure rate compared to the 30% failure rate of the 360), free online play, built in next-gen media platform which will help when games are made bigger and bigger, built in Wi-Fi which let's face it, is an absolute must on these next-gen consoles and a swappable harddrive.
PS3 is more reliable? Ask all the people who had DREs with their PS2 and had to file a class action lawsuit against Sony, which they won, before Sony would fix them. Again, the PS3 only "seems" more reliable because it has less than 1/3 the amount sold of the Xbox360 (in the US), and those that do own a PS3 rarely use it. I only know one person who has a PS3 (out of the 100 or so that had a PS2 and now own a 360) and he almost never uses it as a game machine. Only uses it for the occasional blu-ray disc. WiFi? Again, no thanks. I want a reliable connection that won't go to crap if someone throws some food in the microwaves... or if I want to stream video from my PC to my console.
Next-gen media? Again, every PS3 game available NOW would fit on a DVD and most of those would go just fine on a single layer DVD.
The only good thing the PS3 has is the ability to use any 2.5" HDD. But you'll need that because the PS3 has no good way to stream media to it.
Yup.
1 account name (must be unique) any name ingame. Unified through all Steam games via the community panel. Own avatar too, also unified. No adverts and free. Love to see MS do that.
Too bad Valve won't let you change your account name or anything at will. I was one of the first to sign up with Steam during the beta days. Now they won't let me change my account name (which is an old email address I no longer use) unless I pay them to change it for every single game I own.
I bought a PS3 to accompany my Sharp Aquos as they have the same color palatte and I wanted the ability to upconvert DVD's to 1080. Games I can't provide feedback as I bought it because a Toshiba Blu-ray was the same price and didn't upconvert. Love the interface and prefer the controller.
You mean Toshiba HD-DVD? All Toshiba HD-DVD players upscale DVDs. All of them. But if your main goal is to upscale DVDs, an Oppo upscaling DVD player for around $150 or a Windows based HTPC will make an upscaled DVD on the PS3 look as bad as one of those $29 Wal-Mart players.
Currently, you can purchase one for $399 with 5 Blu-ray movies free by mail-in-rebate (that's is a huge savings!)
You can also get HD-DVD players for under $199 (that DO upscale DVDs) with 5 free HD-DVDs.
The Xbox360 HD-DVD add-on also qualifies for 5 free HD-DVDs. Plus the Xbox360 upscales DVDs better than the PS3 (Seeing as how it has a hardware scaler), and the Xbox360 will stream HD video content from a PC and it has an HD TV show store and HD movie rental store online with Xbox Live.