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I would say, it's a bug since it works SOMETIMES on my wife's SE 2020. For testing, we just activated DND mode via the control center. There's this notification on the lock screen now (...will be silenced...). On other iPhones a 3D-press or long-press on the notification would show a "turn off" option.
With the SE 2020, a long press on that notification works every 3-5 tries.
We haven't figured out a pattern yet. I'm hoping that this will be fixed with one of the next updates.
 
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I would say, it's a bug since it works SOMETIMES on my wife's SE 2020. For testing, we just activated DND mode via the control center. There's this notification on the lock screen now (...will be silenced...). On other iPhones a 3D-press or long-press on the notification would show a "turn off" option.
With the SE 2020, a long press on that notification works every 3-5 tries.
We haven't figured out a pattern yet. I'm hoping that this will be fixed with one of the next updates.
Here we go!
 
Also bringing up the AppSwitcher bei long-press/3d-touch on the edge of the display does not seem to work with my SE. Worked on the i8. And for me this is even more annoying (thinking about selling it) than the Notification Center issue. The later one I can at least do swip left -> view
 
Also bringing up the AppSwitcher bei long-press/3d-touch on the edge of the display does not seem to work with my SE. Worked on the i8. And for me this is even more annoying (thinking about selling it) than the Notification Center issue. The later one I can at least do swip left -> view
It worked on iPhone 8 because it had the 3D Touch. It won’t work any longer on new devices without 3D Touch technology. A step back unfortunately.
 
This better be a bug, as a dev having to “inform” users of the various interactions (3D touch, Haptic Touch, drag down) on notifications sucks...and then having a random brand new device not support it at all makes it even worse.

My guess is the SE has a modified iPhone 8 version of iOS, which is expecting 3D touch to access these things.
Yeah. Apple need to fix this. If you have nest cameras etc you need to 3D/haptic touch the notification to view the clip! It's infuriating to have to swipe and press 'view'. Given it works intermittently I guess it is a bug too.

Not sure why macrumours have run with the subject "and it's not a bug" citing a twitter post as evidence.
 
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It will be patched in. If you remember iPhone XR didn't have this at first until about a month later.
So Apple have actually already developed the code to allow Haptic Touch to perform notification expansion for the iPhone XR, and forgotten to port that to the SE 2020.

Users who are finding this as infuriating as I am can report this as a bug here:
 
So Apple have actually already developed the code to allow Haptic Touch to perform notification expansion for the iPhone XR, and forgotten to port that to the SE 2020.

Users who are finding this as infuriating as I am can report this as a bug here:

Done. Thanks!
 
There must be a bug. If not in the iPhone SE, in Apple's management.

IMHO 3D Touch was a brilliant feature: it allowed to add an effective third dimension to the user interface, enabling pop-up contextual menus and other actions that could save a lot of tap & swipe to the user.
For obscure reasons the iOS department went from trying to enable two different user actions via two different pressure levels, something that honestly failed 50% of the times and was overcomplicated anyway, to abandoning the feature altogether, replacing it with the inferior Haptic Touch even on the now staggeringly priced flagship models.
In the meantime users were never motivated to really use 3D/Haptic Touch across the system, because there has never been a graphical way to tell if an element could be tapped or "pushed".

A thing that you always knew could be pressed were notifications, something that I used from day one when I upgraded from iPhone 6 to 7. Combined with the haptic feedback, 3D Touch works deliciously on the now elderly 7, and I'm addicted to it at least for sending quick replies to messages.

I was praising Apple, after the recent years of grumbling about the pricing policies, for offering a solid, no-frills but specced up phone with the right price for the right time, and here we go. They intentionally disable a feature with zero hardware requirement, i.e. with zero cost advantage for them in doing so. They must actually have spent some money in development time to remove something that was already there for free.

Really disappointing for customers to be treated like assets to be exploited till the last penny, when they already choose to spend much more money on a product ecosystem that they, after all, deem superior to the competition.
 
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But the issue isn't 3D touch vs Haptic touch, this is a Haptic and 3D touch feature that is not working on the new SE...it works on every other device running iOS 13

Actually, it doesn’t work on my OG SE that is running iOS 13.
 
So Apple have actually already developed the code to allow Haptic Touch to perform notification expansion for the iPhone XR, and forgotten to port that to the SE 2020.

Users who are finding this as infuriating as I am can report this as a bug here:
Would encourage people to carry on reporting this via this link.

Remember that the XR launched without this feature and it was added in iOS 12.1.1.

Found the post from the time:
 
As Apple shifts to ARM, expect more market segmentation based on features rather than capability. The SE is fully capable of using haptic touch with notifications but Apple is simply blocking features to upsell customers. This is a throwback to the PPC days when the iBook was only allowed to mirror its screen to an external monitor but a hack enabled you to extend its screen to an external monitor. Another reason to leave the Apple ecosystem.



Customers who have purchased the new 2020 iPhone SE have found a surprising missing feature - Haptic Touch does not work with notifications.

On the 2020 iPhone SE, long pressing on a notification in the Notification Center or on the Lock screen does not appear to bring up rich notification options to allow iPhone SE users to interact with incoming content.

richnotificationsiphone11pro.jpg


Rich notifications accessed with Haptic Touch on an iPhone 11 Pro

There have been complaints about the missing feature on Reddit and the MacRumors forums. From Reddit:With Haptic Touch-enabled devices like the iPhone 11 and 11 Pro, long pressing on a notification in the Notification Center or the Lock screen brings up interactive options based on the app sending the notification. An Apple News notification, for example, brings up options for reading the full story, sharing a story, or saving for later, while an email app might offer options to reply and delete an incoming message without needing to open the app.

In our testing, we were not able to long press on a notification to view these interactive options, as the long press functionality did not work. We also tried on an iPhone 8, which the iPhone SE is based on, but we were able to get the rich notifications to work on that device, which has 3D Touch.

While iPhone SE users cannot long press on notifications on the Lock screen or in the Notification Center, there does appear to be a Haptic Touch option when pressing on an incoming notification when the iPhone is in use.

A Reddit user called Apple Support and was told there was no software update planned to fix the behavior, but Apple Support can be unreliable when it comes to information about new hardware releases.

Update: According to TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino, the lack of Haptic Touch for notifications on the iPhone SE is not a bug and the feature is working as Apple intended.



Update 2: MacRumors forum members have pointed out that it's possible to slide to the left on a notification and tap on the "View" option as a workaround for the missing Haptic Touch feature.

Article Link: PSA: iPhone SE's Haptic Touch Doesn't Work With Notifications and It's Not a Bug
 
As Apple shifts to ARM, expect more market segmentation based on features rather than capability. The SE is fully capable of using haptic touch with notifications but Apple is simply blocking features to upsell customers. This is a throwback to the PPC days when the iBook was only allowed to mirror its screen to an external monitor but a hack enabled you to extend its screen to an external monitor. Another reason to leave the Apple ecosystem.
Upsell me on the camera, battery life, speed or screen. I won't be upsold on such a trivial thing. It's clearly not a reason to leave the apple ecosystem (imo). But it doesn't make sense it's not available, although I'm sure it will be available in a future release...maybe 13.5.
 
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As Apple shifts to ARM, expect more market segmentation based on features rather than capability. The SE is fully capable of using haptic touch with notifications but Apple is simply blocking features to upsell customers. This is a throwback to the PPC days when the iBook was only allowed to mirror its screen to an external monitor but a hack enabled you to extend its screen to an external monitor. Another reason to leave the Apple ecosystem.
While there is evidence of "software limited features" before, (e.g differences in the camera UI between the iPhone 7 and iPhone 11), there are also hardware differences in those cases that justifies the omission. In this case, both the iPhone SE and the iPhone XR have the same haptic touch hardware and software. There is no justification for the notifications on the lock screen to not implement haptic touch when the rest of the UI uses it.

Given people who are buying the SE would likely be people upgrading from a 6S, 7 or 8, where they will have got used to this, and will expect their new phone to have all the features of their last phone; It will disappoint and irritate a lot of users that it doesn't work. The last phone apple released without the ability to interact with notifications would have been in 2014, as every iPhone since the 6S has had this UI function.

Customers aren't going to go out and spend $1000/£1000 on a flagship just because they are irritated, but they might just not buy the SE and just get a $400 android instead, which won't have any arbitrary software limitations.

Even people switching from android will find this situation ridiculous, (and frankly, it is) because interacting with your notifications is an expected part of the UI in 2020, at every price point.

Given the XR launched without this enabled and it was fixed in iOS12.1.1, it is logical that it should be added to the SE as well in a future update.

I'm unable to upgrade my iPhone 7 with this iPhone SE until it's confirmed resolved. It really was a dealbreaker while testing one out.
 
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Upsell me on the camera, battery life, speed or screen. I won't be upsold on such a trivial thing. It's clearly not a reason to leave the apple ecosystem (imo). But it doesn't make sense it's not available, although I'm sure it will be available in a future release...maybe 13.5.

While I plan to stay with iPhones, I am not sticking around for Apple’s switch to ARM. Hence, I am leaving the ecosystem.

I hope everyone takes note of this ridiculous decision by Apple and takes note of the recent stagnation with the iPad Pro (A12 to A12X after 1.5 years) before declaring the ARM transition to be a panacea.
 
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While I plan to stay with iPhones, I am not sticking around for Apple’s switch to ARM. Hence, I am leaving the ecosystem.

I hope everyone takes note of this ridiculous decision by Apple and takes note of the recent stagnation with the iPad Pro (A12 to A12X after 1.5 years) before declaring the ARM transition to be a panacea.
I don't see the relevance. Either the ARM macs will be a success or a failure. That will entirely depend on the quality of the implementation, x86 emulation for backwards compatibility and the hardware performance. None of which is known at this point.

What is known, is that notifications don't work properly on the new iPhone SE.
 
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No. These machines were spec'd and tested 12-18 months prior. Intel deliberately dragged its feet with the Thunderbolt 3 royalty free of IP issues by two years. They announced May of 2017, but didn't officially make it available until May 2019. The only products Apple was able to get TB 3 and AMD on were the custom ASIC Vegas for the 2019 Mac Pro, as part of those on the GPGPUs. No other GPU in the market has Thunderbolt on it.

Intel is no longer king of the hill, nor will they be again. The roadmap on ZEN goes beyond ZEN 5 internally. Each generation keeps leap-frogging the prior generation. The X3D packaging designs for Zen 4 that AMD has patented to the hilt is something again Intel cannot match. Something ARM cannot come close to matching either.

Either Fall 2020 or Spring 2021 Apple reveals AMD based solutions, not ARM. iPadOS based ARM 2-in-1 is Apple's answer to people wishing for a Microsoft Surface solution. We got a taste with the new keyboard. They'll just keep driving that angle and extend the interoperability of side-car with macOS, not ARM for Macbook Pro.

Zen 4 will be 2022 for Apple, at the earliest with PCI-E 5.0. The rest of the Industry will see Zen 4 arrive late 2021.

Zen 3 and RDNA 2.0 arrives this September leaving no more doubt that Intel is whipped on the CPU and Nvidia is in a dead heat with GPUs once again.

I would like to believe you, but I am afraid Apple decided on the transition to ARM two years ago, if for no other reason than as a way to increase their own profitability on each unit sold. I would love to be wrong.


I don't see the relevance. Either the ARM macs will be a success or a failure. That will entirely depend on the quality of the implementation, x86 emulation for backwards compatibility and the hardware performance. None of which is known at this point.

What is known, is that notifications don't work properly on the new iPhone SE.

I agree with your points about an ARM-based Mac; however I think third-party software support will be crucial for Apple during this transition because I am convinced there will be no emulation.
 
I would like to believe you, but I am afraid Apple decided on the transition to ARM two years ago, if for no other reason than as a way to increase their own profitability on each unit sold. I would love to be wrong...
Another possible explanation is to achieve more control over their destiny than from Intel.
 
Confirmed again: Not a bug, according to Apple.


* Touch and hold is available on most devices that support iOS 13 or iPadOS. On iPhone SE (2nd generation), you'll need to swipe left on the notification, then tap View to reply to a message from the Lock screen.
 
Confirmed again: Not a bug, according to Apple.


* Touch and hold is available on most devices that support iOS 13 or iPadOS. On iPhone SE (2nd generation), you'll need to swipe left on the notification, then tap View to reply to a message from the Lock screen.

:mad: but WHY? It just doesn't make any sense. Why does it work *sometimes*?
 
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