PSA: Non-iPhone 12 Models Charge Super Slowly With MagSafe Charger

[Unami]

These wireless chargers are such a waste of electricity, so much is lost in just heat...

And it's not only the excess heat due to the coils having a lot of resistance in comparison to much shorter wires. It's also the electricity that gets lost in the gap.

Quite ironic that Apple tried to sell us on leaving away chargers as a "green" measure while at the same time introducing more wasteful methods of charging.

 

[Ramchi]

A complete e-waste if it can't be used for charging others(in a meaningful way). Any ways I am not getting this since Qi solutions that I have from Samsung and OnePlus (30W wireless charger) serves my purpose in charging my XS Max & 11 Pro Max.

 

[magicMac]

That’s incorrect. A modern dishwasher is much more efficient than washing by hand, because it uses much less water and therefore less water needs to be heated.

Dryers, however, are inefficient. Air drying in summer has a big effect.

You're not wrong, I almost exclusively use my dishwasher because it saves ALOT of water by mostly using heat.

The dishwasher does use energy/electricity though, whereas washing by hand does not. Washing by hand with hot water from a tap (generally heated from a gas boiler) will use some energy/gas too, but in both cases the water usage is higher than a dishwasher, and in the case of using hot water from a tap - both energy and lots of water are being used, and this is why using a dishwasher is more effecient. Even if gas is more effecient at heating water compared to the dishwasher, you are using less water on the whole - so it's more about saving water than energy.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I have read several posts on here of forum members noticing the MagSafe taking a long time to charge their new iPhone 12 as well, which isn’t supposed to be the case.

 

[magicMac]

when do we reckon we will see range of lower cost third party MagSafe pucks with power supplies included?

 

[ian87w]

You're not wrong, I almost exclusively use my dishwasher because it saves ALOT of water by mostly using heat.

The dishwasher does use energy/electricity though, whereas washing by hand does not. Washing by hand with hot water from a tap (generally heated from a gas boiler) will use some energy/gas too, but in both cases the water usage is higher than a dishwasher, and in the case of using hot water from a tap - both energy and lots of water are being used, and this is why using a dishwasher is more effecient. Even if gas is more effecient at heating water compared to the dishwasher, you are using less water on the whole - so it's more about saving water than energy.

Correct, in countries where water is expensive.

It's the other way around in my country, where electricity is much more expensive than water. The water saved won't be that significant in the monetary amount. Thus dishwasher is not an appliance that is commonplace.

 

[The Game 161]

I have read several posts on here of forum members noticing the MagSafe taking a long time to charge their new iPhone 12 as well, which isn’t supposed to be the case.

I've read 40% in an hour which isn't good

 

[mrbkk]

These wireless chargers are such a waste of electricity, so much is lost in just heat...

This is utter nonsense. There is very little heat that is generated by a Qi charger.

 

[magicMac]

Correct, in countries where water is expensive.

It's the other way around in my country, where electricity is much more expensive than water. The water saved won't be that significant in the monetary amount. Thus dishwasher is not an appliance that is commonplace.

that is a good point! depends on the economics of the country.

I live in the UK and I think I can speak for most people in that water bills here are quite high from the local water board, after all it is a precious resource! whereas you can hunt around every year for some stella electricity tariffs in the UK as there is a free market of suppliers who must generate and input a certain amount into the grid. And of course if you have PV cells the electric is even more cheaper I basically get near to free electric for 3 months of the summer when i factor in the the feed-in-tariff on the PV system, of course I do make sure to run the dishwasher at 2PM when the sun is at it's brightest most central to my pannels.

 

[Devin Breeding]

I don’t get the fascination with wireless charging. I can either plug in a device so I can lay a phone on top of it to charge or I can simply plug the phone using its charging port. At least with the charging cable connected you can pickup the phone and use it and make calls. Now wireless charging would be a neat idea if I can use the phone and charge it without having to lay the phone over a charger.

Reverse charging is an even a tougher sell to me. Why would I drain my battery to charge another device? I’d rather charge that device with its own cable.

A couple reasons for me:

The eventual transition to portless is a much more secure and water tight option.

Less wear and tear on cables and ports. Can’t tell you how many lightning and micro USB cords I’ve been through over the years.

I can have a single cable plugged in to a charging pad to charge my phone, watch and headphones simultaneously with a really nice looking presentation.

 

[Devin Breeding]

I’ve had a similar experience with my XS Max. Charged wirelessly for about the first year of ownership. Down to 93% battery health. Ever since using a wired charger every night (for about a year now), it hasn’t lost another 1% since.

Keep in mind that may also be better implementation of the optimized battery charging setting.

 

[PostApple2016BrainWash]

MagSafe is absolutely a great way to charge the device but Qualcomm Quick Charge 5 will rewrite the norm of charging speed that can be fully charged in approximately 21 minutes or less.

 

[simonmet]

The whole fact that apple wants to cut the ultimate cord Is what gets me. they can do it, but they better give me the better alternative. For example my iPhone pro 12 charges to 50% full in 28 minutes using the 20W fast charger or so, but the magsafe setup i have with charger and 20w brick 30 minutes only came up to 30%.

The MagSafe is so slow on the 12pro, I used the app Amphere to test it and these are my results.
Apple Iphone 12 pro with the latest iOS 14.1
magsafe with usb c
20w power adapter
magsafe clear case for the iphone 12

on Their website apple states that the magsafe can deliver *upto 15* but I’m not getting not even 7.5w which is the what the mophie Qi charger apple was endorsing for the longest time. I did this test while charging my phone below 80%
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Return it. What a joke.

 

[5105973]

Okay so I put my 12 Pro that was about 95% charged on my MagSafe charger (with the MagSafe silicone charger on the phone as well) at about 1:00 am. I’m using the charging brick that came with my 11 Pro.

I woke at about 7:20 am to check it and the phone was at 55% charge and hot.

That’s obviously not what I had hoped for, but with the phone apparently updating photos in the background I guess it used more power than it was taking in.

I’d used this same case and charger to try and charge my 11 Pro back from almost empty and it did take several hours to charge it back to around 60 or 70. I didn’t see the precise charge when I yanked it off the puck. It hadn’t gotten hot then. Just warm.

I have a lot of Samsung Qi charging pucks around, but over time I got away from using them and I have usually just been plugging my iPhone 11 Pro in.

I thought it might be fun to try MagSafe. And it was fun. The idea is good. I thought in terms of ease of use on the nightstand, it was a nice in-between option. It was easier to grab and use the phone from the charger than it usually is to unplug it (or plug in, in the dark). It’s easier than trying to find to find the right spot on my Samsung chargers.

But it produced a lot of heat and my phone is worse off now. I may try again another time when my phone is done whatever it is new phones do the first few days.

 

[44267547]

Could be a software bug that Apple will address.

This is most likely the answer. I suspect this is probably mitigated via a software update, but the question is, how quickly does Apple address this, assuming if this is the actual remedy. Nonetheless, I’m glad I held off on the MagSafe charger until then.

 

[IsaacM]

This whole rollout has been a mess. No 120hz, lower battery life, magsafe turning out to be a dud.

They really need to bring it in 2021.

 

[I7guy]

...However a big puck on the back makes it uncomfortable to use compared to a wire plugged into the lightning port...

For me, it would be the other way around.

 

[I7guy]

but but but Apple cares about the environment, it’s totally not about greed

But, but totally, not greedy, but they deserve to make a profit and sell accessories people want.

 

[I7guy]

A complete e-waste if it can't be used for charging others(in a meaningful way). Any ways I am not getting this since Qi solutions that I have from Samsung and OnePlus (30W wireless charger) serves my purpose in charging my XS Max & 11 Pro Max.

It’s quite possible it’s a software issue that will be sorted out.

 

[macguru212]

Perhaps a few bugs need ironing out on how iOS handles charging, all I keep thinking is the phones are new, so is the charger - Apple new product rules apply.

I suspect an update will fix these issues.

 

[I7guy]

Okay so I out my 12 Pro that was about 95% charged on my MagSafe charger (with the MagSafe silicone charger on the phone as well) at about 1:00 am. I’m using the charging brick that came with my 11 Pro.

I woke at about 7:20 am to check it and the phone was at 55% charge and hot.

That’s obviously not what I had hoped for, but with the phone apparently updating photos in the background I guess it used more power than it was taking in.

I’d used this same case and charger to try and charge my 11 Pro back from almost empty and it did take several hours to charge it back to around 60 or 70. I didn’t see the precise charge when I yanked it off the puck. It hadn’t gotten hot then. Just warm.

I have a lot of Samsung Qi charging pucks around, but over time I got away from using them and I have usually just been plugging my iPhone 11 Pro in.

I thought it might be fun to try MagSafe. And it was fun. The idea is good. I thought in terms of ease of use on the nightstand, it was a nice in-between option. It was easier to grab and use the phone from the charger than it usually is to unplug it (or plug in, in the dark). It’s easier than trying to find to find the right spot on my Samsung chargers.

But it produced a lot of heat and my phone is worse off now. I may try again another time when my phone is done whatever it is new phones do the first few days.

This has to be some software issue. Maybe iOS 14.2 will resolve it.

 

[Black Belt]

Wow, crappier than a crapfest Qi charger. That’s “magical”. An abomination of MagSafe’s great name.

 

[TechLord]

very happy with the MagSafe on my iPhone 11. I slow charge at 1w over a 24 hour period to save battery health.

 

[5105973]

This has to be some software issue. Maybe iOS 14.2 will resolve it.

I really hope so. I would really like MagSafe if it ends up working well. I don’t think it’s a stupid gimmick like some people seem to. Unfortunately my first go around with it would support their view more than mine at this point. So I hope this gets resolved.

 

[Brandon42]

If your phone has been exposed to water recently (in my experience it up to several hours after water exposure), iOS will refuse to charge with a lightning cable to protect your device. Wireless charging is a nice backup option to have in those situations.