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I see the consumer market has to now start stating screen sizes in Square Inches to appease some people.

If they don't, next year LG will make a phone that is 1" wide by 7" tall, so they can measure it horizontally and call it the largest screen ever on a smart phone, even though it would have less area. I know it's to the extreme, but we certainly aren't moving in the opposite direction.
 
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I find it funny all these Plus users whining on the the screen size not being as big, and talking about how they will take the screen real estate all day to justify their purchase. If you like your phone, great, but don’t keep telling everyone else how it’s better and Apple lied to everyone. Seriously we are all tired of hearing and reading it.

At what point did which device you have/will have come into play? This is for those with, say a 7 Plus, looking to upgrade.
 
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At what point did which device you have/will have come into play? This is for those with, say a 7 Plus, looking to upgrade.

What are you talking about? The device you have now has everything to do with your post. There have been 100s of post about this topic, so everyone knows what they are getting into. You posting again just adds to the useless rants about something we already know. Great, you are missing just a bit of screen when you put the phone into landscape, who cares? It feels like this is a justify my purchase or lack of purchase post. There are Ben plenty of those.
 
Thanks to the shrunken bezels, the iPhone X’s display rivals both the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus. The iPhone X packs a 5.8-inch display in a device that stands at 5.65-inches tall. Compare that to the iPhone 8 Plus with a 5.5-inch display at a 6.24-inch height. This difference equates to a 0.3-inch larger display on the iPhone X than the iPhone 8 Plus, while still being 0.59-inches shorter in height. For fans of smaller devices, the iPhone X’s size is not drastically larger than the iPhone 8 either. Being 0.2-inches taller in height than the iPhone 8, it still manages to sport over a full inch larger display.

From this article on the subject.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5ma...otprint-makes-iphone-x-an-obvious-choice/amp/
 
Here’s Fight Club which is 2.35:1.

There’s no real size difference to note, but since the X is narrower the black bars are smaller. But there’s also the notch to consider.

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Though What happens when I want to watch Game of Thrones?

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And what happens when I watch Creed? You get OLED bars, smaller content and cropping...

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Summary: you have to cherry pick your apps and content to say the X has an equal video experience as the iPhone 8+.
Obviously I see your point. There’s going to be give and take with every iteration. Maybe your giving up a tint view space on the X. But for me the pause way out weigh the negatives.
Much better screen quality IMHO
Fits perfectly in all my jeans
Love the facial recognition
Love the look of the phone sans home button and wasted space on other sides
Front fireing speaks kicks
Etc.
 
I find it funny all these Plus users whining on the the screen size not being as big, and talking about how they will take the screen real estate all day to justify their purchase. If you like your phone, great, but don’t keep telling everyone else how it’s better and Apple lied to everyone. Seriously we are all tired of hearing and reading it.
It's unfortunate you feel this way.

I for one welcome posts discussing this topic.

My first impression picking up an X coming from a Plus was that it's small but after using it some have decided the X will be fine.

You're acting threatened like your prize dog won't win or something.
 
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It's unfortunate you feel this way.

I for one welcome posts discussing this topic.

My first impression picking up an X coming from a Plus was that it's small but after using it some have decided the X will be fine.

You're acting threatened like your prize dog won't win or something.

I am not threatened at all. If Plus user choose to skip the X because they think it’s too small, that is completely fine with me. I just don’t get why these post keep needing to be made. You could have added your two cents with 100 we already have. Nothing New was shared here. I have no issue with the topic, but to keep adding to exciting thread.
 
If they don't, next year LG will make a phone that is 1" wide by 7" tall, so they can measure it horizontally and call it the largest screen ever on a smart phone, even though it would have less area. I know it's to the extreme, but we certainly aren't moving in the opposite direction.

Bingo lol
 
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Reminder that, despite some questionable marketing by Apple to use the 5.8" horizontal measurement, the screen on the X is NOT bigger than the screen on the Plus. All it is is taller. The X screen is significantly more narrow, and the total AREA is also less on the X.

And please no comments about pixels and useable space. The laws of physics have not changed because Apple says so. If anything, the X losses space due to the unibrow and the rounded corners. Nothing wrong with it, to each their own, but don't expect to have a screen that is marketed as bigger, actually be bigger.

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I see the consumer market has to now start stating screen sizes in Square Inches to appease some people.
it would make sense for this change to happen, tbh.

measuring diagonally made sense about 40 years ago or so.. when there were actual tubes being used in displays/televisions.

also, if we continue seeing the trend of non-rectangular displays such as we're seeing in the latest round of flagship phones, it makes even more sense to move away from diagonal specs since really, there is no diagonal measurement to be taken in these cases.
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while i know the screen on iPhone Plus is a little larger than iPhone X...

the comparison image you keep posting is an inaccurate comparison..
the letters/kerning on the X are larger in your example as well as the leading (spacing between lines)..

if the content were sized/spaced the same on the two phones, more of the words would fit on the X than you're showing ..(or less would fit on the Plus)


(like-- look at the first 11 lines on each phone.. you'll see they take up more vertical space on the X than the Plus.. basically, 11 lines on X equals 12 lines of height on the Plus.. in this example)


so, maybe find a better comparison
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here you go:

each side-by-side comparison is using the same size text as the other.. depending on how that particular size divides up the words, you may or may not get more text on the Plus..

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it would make sense for this change to happen, tbh.

measuring diagonally made sense about 40 years ago or so.. when there were actual tubes being used in displays/televisions.

also, if we continue seeing the trend of non-rectangular displays such as we're seeing in the latest round of flagship phones, it makes even more sense to move away from diagonal specs since really, there is no diagonal measurement to be taken in these cases.
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while i know the screen on iPhone Plus is a little larger than iPhone X...

the comparison image you keep posting is an inaccurate comparison..
the letters/kerning on the X are larger in your example as well as the leading (spacing between lines)..

if the content were sized/spaced the same on the two phones, more of the words would fit on the X than you're showing ..(or less would fit on the Plus)


(like-- look at the first 11 lines on each phone.. you'll see they take up more vertical space on the X than the Plus.. basically, 11 lines on X equals 12 lines of height on the Plus.. in this example)


so, maybe find a better comparison
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here you go:

each side-by-side comparison is using the same size text as the other.. depending on how that particular size divides up the words, you may or may not get more text on the Plus..

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Are you saying that @Jodiuh changed the spacing on his comparison like you did? Yours is a mock up and his was an actual side by side.
 
Are you saying that he changed the spacing on his comparison like you did? Yours is a mock up and his was an actual side by side.

hmm. no, i'm not saying he did anything.
that's probably how the text is rendered on each of the phones at the current settings..

my point is that the image isn't using an accurate means of comparison between the two phones.. if the goal is to show which display is larger.

it'd be like trying to figure out which phone was heavier except using scales which are calibrated differently when weighing each phone.

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for clarity-- i'm not speaking subjectively.. i don't have a 'side in this battle'..
like-- i'm not interested in skewing some comparisons in order to make my team win.. just trying to be accurate and objective is all.
 
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The X screen has 2.6% less area than the 6/7/8+
This includes the curves and unibrow.

Every screen that you buy is measured diagonally.

No marketing ploy.
2.6%. I don’t doubt this figure, but would like to see the source of the data. I don’t find the X screen to be significantly more narrow as the OP describes. It is only marginally smaller than a Plus screen.
 
that's inaccurate as far as measuring the physical size of the displays..

they're using points which is used as a UI measurement.

but for example, in their 'Maths Time' section, they're saying the X is 375pts wide.. the problem is, the iPhone 8 is also 375pts wide even though the physical size of the X display is wider.. the X and the 8 displays are not equal width.


so yeah, if you're wanting to do 'Maths Time' for a physical size comparison, don't use UI layout sizes as the input.

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(here's where they likely got their numbers.. you'll see it lists both the X and 8 as being equal width in points.. which they are.. but again, make sure you know what a point is prior to using them for a comparison such as the one attempting to be made in the phonearena article ;) )

https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/overview/iphone-x/
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hmm. no, i'm not saying he did anything.
that's probably how the text is rendered on each of the phones at the current settings..

my point is that the image isn't using an accurate means of comparison between the two phones.. if the goal is to show which display is larger.

it'd be like trying to figure out which phone was heavier except using scales which are calibrated differently when weighing each phone.

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for clarity-- i'm not speaking subjectively.. i don't have a 'side in this battle'..
like-- i'm not interested in skewing some comparisons in order to make my team win.. just trying to be accurate and objective is all.

But that's the only comparison that matters because that's how content is rendered on both phones and we can't change that. If the X used a slightly more compact version of the Plus layout, yes, the screen would show more content. But unfortunately it uses a slightly scaled up version of the 4.7" layout, meaning a "smaller" usable screen than compared to the small.
 
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That 0.272125 makes a world of a difference. Like running a marathon, the last .2 miles is the WORST!
 
But that's the only comparison that matters because that's how content is rendered on both phones and we can't change that. If the X used a slightly more compact version of the Plus layout, yes, the screen would show more content. But unfortunately it uses a slightly scaled up version of the 4.7" layout, meaning a "smaller" usable screen than compared to the small.

you can change the text size if the app allows (if it uses scalable text).

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anyway.. does it really matter if you can see 1/2 a sentence more on one phone than another prior to scrolling? is this actually important to anyone here other than theoretical fodder for arguing?

just making sure nobody is actually getting tooo caught up in these types of comparisons.
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2.6%. I don’t doubt this figure, but would like to see the source of the data. I don’t find the X screen to be significantly more narrow as the OP describes. It is only marginally smaller than a Plus screen.

The source of the data is in the first post. These are 1:1 representations, to scale in inches, of all three phones. You can argue a lot of things, but pure and simple math is not one of them (yet).
 
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you can change the text size if the app allows (if it uses scalable text).

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anyway.. does it really matter if you can see 1/2 a sentence more on one phone than another prior to scrolling? is this actually important to anyone here other than theoretical fodder for arguing?

just making sure nobody is actually getting tooo caught up in these types of comparisons.
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Text size was just an example, my larger point was that the X screen is arguably the same size as the Plus, but a higher resolution, and yet it still treats content like it's the lower res 4.7" iphone. That's not fodder to me. I know not everyone wants everything tiny, but at least they could have offered a "compact" options like they do a "zoomed" option so you could have denser display content.
 
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The source of the data is in the first post. These are 1:1 representations, to scale in inches, of all three phones. You can argue a lot of things, but pure and simple math is not one of them (yet).
You don’t need to be confrontational, especially since I wasn’t arguing. Yes, the screen is smaller but it is by no means significant. I’ve owned 2 pluses and now the x and I can say I love the X and in no way mind the slightly narrower width. Also, I was requesting the source from the person who wrote about 2.6%, which that poster promptly responded. If you felt the need to respond to me that is fine, but you come off as a bit patronizing.

I do want to address your claim of misleading marketing. Selling screens by the size of the diagonal has been in practice for years and used by every major manufacturer/reseller of nearly every type of display. Also, Apple never advertised the iPhone X as larger than the Plus. This claim by you is in fact misleading and a misrepresentation of Apple.

Moving on, I don’t think there is anything more to add to this thread. The X is smaller, but in my OPINION the better phone. It all comes down to personal preference.
 
The non-Plus 6,7,8 were too small for me and I preferred the screen size of the Plus. However, it is always a little bit to wide for me. X is the sweet spot for holding the phone with one hand and large screen size. I like it very much.
 
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Also, Apple never advertised the iPhone X as larger than the Plus.
If “Joe Average”(someone that doesn’t read forums such as this one) goes on Apple’s website and clicks “compare”, the first comparison it shows is the iPhone X’s 5.8” Super Retina HD display vs the iPhone 8 Plus’s 5.5 Retina HD display. That person would assume they would be getting a bigger display with the X and therefore be shown larger images.
 
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Reminder that, despite some questionable marketing by Apple to use the 5.8" horizontal measurement, the screen on the X is NOT bigger than the screen on the Plus. All it is is taller. The X screen is significantly more narrow, and the total AREA is also less on the X.

And please no comments about pixels and useable space. The laws of physics have not changed because Apple says so. If anything, the X losses space due to the unibrow and the rounded corners. Nothing wrong with it, to each their own, but don't expect to have a screen that is marketed as bigger, actually be bigger.

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I got the X on release day and it's awesome but this post is correct. If you have a Plus screen you will feel cramped. Just looking at the lock screen time and the font is smaller. Go to youtube and the video is tiny compared to the Plus. Just seems like a long iphone 6 size screen with much better resolution. But the Plus was always too big for me so I really like the X.
 
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