Maybe his business plan is to get sued by Apple and hold out long enough that they pay him to go to college.
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Psystar to Challenge Mac OS X EULA?
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Maybe his business plan is to get sued by Apple and hold out long enough that they pay him to go to college.
I love how some people on here think that Macs contain some special kind of hardware, that when magically put together at the factory in Shanghi they become Macs. Like the hard drives, memory, CPUs, and video cards are methodically sprinkled with some magical fairy dust that make them better than others.
If you're referring to me, yes i know OEM manufacturers physically make the finished product. But have you seen a logic board for a dual PowerMac G5? yeah, thats not a standard ATX form factor, somebody had to design it.. They also design their own cases, etc. (I just replaced the logic board inside a 2.0 GHz G5 Powermac. The board in its design is nothing like a PC's.)
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Totally Agree!
Those people who want Apple to "smash" Psystar (who tries to break the Monopoly of Apple with its overly-pompous EULA) are the people who became jealous they bought a couple thousand dollar computers only because of MacOS X . And now it seems that we will be able to get it twice cheaper, so they try to justify their current and much loved purchase
As someone else said, it is a win/win situation for consumers, why would you support the giant (i.e. Apple) when that small company is doing it for YOUR OWN good!
Totally Agree!
Those people who want Apple to "smash" Psystar (who tries to break the Monopoly of Apple with its overly-pompous EULA) are the people who became jealous they bought a couple thousand dollar computers only because of MacOS X . And now it seems that we will be able to get it twice cheaper, so they try to justify their current and much loved purchase
As someone else said, it is a win/win situation for consumers, why would you support the giant (i.e. Apple) when that small company is doing it for YOUR OWN good!
Jealous?
Are you serious?
Why would I be jealous of someone's computer?
Sounds like the jealousy is in the eye of the beholder.
And last time I looked I could get into the Apple experience for about $500...not much more than this other box plus the OS.
Hey...no worries...go buy one.
I'm sure the lads from Kendall would love to have your cc account number
I for one hope their case gets thrown out of court. Why do Mac's run so smooth in comparison to Wintel machines. Because Apple makes both the hardware and the software.
This formula is good and shouldn't be changed. If you don't want to spend the extra money on a Mac than don't, Steve isn't twisting your arm. But stop crying about it and get on with your life.
This formula is good and shouldn't be changed. If you don't want to spend the extra money on a Mac than don't, Steve isn't twisting your arm. But stop crying about it and get on with your life.
I only take Apple's side due to their incorporation of hardware. They will lose money and eventually fold if they no longer sell hardware. People, Leopard retails for under 140. Even cheaper for students ($70). Do you really think that they will continue to keep the price that low if they dont sell hardware?
a company like psystar does not have to put money into:
1. Design of the products/hardware (not talking about RAM, HD..talking about down to the logic board or a case, something proprietary to Apple)
2. Customer support
3. A chain of physical retail stores.
4. Software design and development
Microsoft just designs software. Look how expensive it is, and all the little versions you have and all the potential hardware conflicts you can get.
I can guarantee you if psystar were to develop its own groundbreaking OS, the price would shoot up.
a company like psystar does not have to put money into:
1. Design of the products/hardware (not talking about RAM, HD..talking about down to the logic board or a case, something proprietary to Apple)
2. Customer support
3. A chain of physical retail stores.
4. Software design and development
Microsoft just designs software. Look how expensive it is, and all the little versions you have and all the potential hardware conflicts you can get.
I can guarantee you if psystar were to develop its own groundbreaking OS, the price would shoot up.
I've done plenty. More than most. I've built more than my fair share of PCs. My last PC was custom-built with top of the line components at the time and, oh yeah, I also built and installed a custom watercooled loop. I think I know what I'm talking about. Adding accessories??? You mean like tv tuner cards, Soundblaster Audigy audio cards, PCI and SATA RAID cards.....
But you can "lease" a car from Honda. They can't tell you where to drive, but they can charge you for driving too many miles when you turn "their" car back in.
I miss the old days when apple wasn't such a huge company and mac users use to stick together and just be happy we had and used macs.. switchers were good for more money, but really bad for some our morale.. I can see why other people are frustrated with our closed system, but for the majority of us are fairly satisfied.. quality is what makes a difference not quantity of sales.. I would never imagine saying this, but I wish MS would build a better windows OS so we can thin some of the hostile switchers back to the generic pc, and let the mac community become more of what it use to be..
ps. hacking, copying, and distributing modifed apple kernal ktext boot files is illegal.
ps. hacking, copying, and distributing modifed apple kernal ktext boot files is illegal.
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9918069-37.html?tag=nefd.pop
"Mac OS X seller (not Apple) disappears after reports"
"Mac OS X seller (not Apple) disappears after reports"
a REAL democracy like EU? Hah! EU is no democracy, that's for sure. It's an over-stately mess. PLUS its members have to bend over quiet and nicely when they decide to crush all their sensible laws and make them sell every damn state-owned company they've got. It's insane and we should never have joined.
Yeah Apple sure is failing what with their record setting quarters, profits galore, a big wad of cash in the bank and succesful product after succesful product.
I don't know if you are a troll or simply ignorant but Apple hardward is NOT overpriced. Article after article has been done demonstrating that you get the same type of hardware for the same type of price even LESS when you compare it to PC hardware. The only difference is you can also get crappier cheap PC hardware. Mercedes doesn't make low cost cars, they let Kia and others do that. Apple doesn't make cheap PC's. Notice how both Mercedes and Apple are quite succesful.
Psystar is probably being slashdotted and dugg into non-existence.
I personally welcome Psystar into challenging Apple. I really think its time for Apple to start catering towards those of us enthusiasts who like to play with the various pieces of hardware out there. Mark up Mac OS X for those of us who want to use it on non-Apple hardware. Require online registration (only for non-Apple hardware!) and I'll still buy a copy of Mac OS X that will run on my home built comp.
I would personally love to see Apple just go ahead with a mini Mac Pro of sorts and let those of us change out processors/ram/video cards/etc so that we can keep up with the latest technology (if we so desire). The only problem here is that Apple would have to keep the whip cracking on ATI/nVidia to get the latest drivers out there.
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Jealous?
Are you serious?
Why would I be jealous of someone's computer?
Sounds like the jealousy is in the eye of the beholder.
And last time I looked I could get into the Apple experience for about $500...not much more than this other box plus the OS.
Hey...no worries...go buy one.
I'm sure the lads from Kendall would love to have your cc account number
Of course I am, jealous are those who don't want OS X to be available to anyone else now, once they paid for it, and purchased a Mac. Is OS X patented? Since when are we told not to use a software if it works on a different hardware than the "intended, i.e. Apple's"?
I am not planning to buy from those guys by the way, and I still think those who like the design (build quality is not the same anymore, so it is just the design
, should buy original Apple products.My post was to express the opinion that Apple's EULA wants too much and OS X is not an Apple-only software anymore, at least now since the switch to Intel.
Hardly. You bought your car with the express right to drive it. You bought OS X with the express right to use it on Apple Hardware.
If you bought your car and resold that car as an authorized reseller of Honda without a contractual agreement with Honda you'd be in jail if you didn't cease and desist.
Why? Nothing is stopping you from buying tens of thousands of Hondas and then reselling them to other nations that aren't authorized to buy them, or are you not allowed to do that?
Hmmm. I'll let you think on it.
Before people post their opinions on this subject they need to go back in Apple history and read about the clone wars.
You don't need to have Ive designed hardware to get a perfectly functioning OSX machine. When Umax, Power, Motorola etc. started producing Mac OS machines they worked fine. They worked so fine in fact that Apple ended the program because too many people were buying cheap alternatives to overpriced Apple hardware.
And as we are all aware, Apple hardware is just as prone to issues as any other piece of computer hardware. What makes it less problematic than Windows machines in general is the fact that there is so little choice in the hardware configurations.
That doesn't make it a better situation. If I had a choice of having more hardware choices at the risk of having more driver issues, I would take it anyway.
Lets be honest here. A LOT of people aren't going to buy OS X.
(Take Windows, for example. Look how well WPA, or windows product activation worked for them.
)What makes Mac?
It is interesting that the question about what makes Mac does not been discussed.
It is not just OSX or hardwares... it is both make what a Mac. It is designed to put both things together flawlessly. It just works! The engineers and software developer in Apple put efforts to brings two things together but now this company just gives out something "OpenMac" want to steal the fruit of these people?
If US is a country observe Intellectual Property, Apple will not lose this case. Otherwise, people should never condemn those developing countries on pirate softwares and machines.
To the end, what a fair world would reveal.
It is interesting that the question about what makes Mac does not been discussed.
It is not just OSX or hardwares... it is both make what a Mac. It is designed to put both things together flawlessly. It just works! The engineers and software developer in Apple put efforts to brings two things together but now this company just gives out something "OpenMac" want to steal the fruit of these people?
If US is a country observe Intellectual Property, Apple will not lose this case. Otherwise, people should never condemn those developing countries on pirate softwares and machines.
To the end, what a fair world would reveal.
Sounds like a scam.
1. Announce Mac Clone
2. Take Pre-Orders
3. Vanish before shipping anything
4. Profit!
1. Announce Mac Clone
2. Take Pre-Orders
3. Vanish before shipping anything
4. Profit!