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Psystar to Challenge Mac OS X EULA?
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For as much hate as you have towards Macs, I'm stunned that you own a MBP. Did you pay for it? Also, why get integrated GPU on the VAIO? Embedded GPUs are so cheap on the PC side it's madness unless you are totally concerned with price, in which case you would not be looking towards Sony.
The vaio is a laptop not a desktop, which replaced my macbook, i am not a fan of chicklet keyboards.
There are so few errors in my posting, i was reading through the postings to get the mac standpoint and just about everyone seems to think that macs MAKE there own hardware.
I will try to dumb it down for you so you can understand it...
Macs are like hondas... The parts may be built by someone else or in another country, but they are assembled in america by honda.
Hope you can wrap your head around that, i know its not encased in aluminum, but you should still be able to get a handle on it.
There are so few errors in my posting, i was reading through the postings to get the mac standpoint and just about everyone seems to think that macs MAKE there own hardware.
I will try to dumb it down for you so you can understand it...
Macs are like hondas... The parts may be built by someone else or in another country, but they are assembled in america by honda.
Hope you can wrap your head around that, i know its not encased in aluminum, but you should still be able to get a handle on it.
Glad to read your posts robtinner and thanks for taking the time to enlighten the readers of MacRumors! I totally understand now!!
Apple designed in CA, USA - Assembled in China.
Right next to many PC's also made in China.
Psystar, assembled in USA?
I have a MAC because I can't figure out Windows.
I want to buy a Psystar Pro.
Nonsense? Not enough time? I think perhaps you should use the word LAZY. Whose fault is it that you "don't have time" to read the agreement? Would you buy a house without reading the contract? You must be a busy, busy (read lazy, lazy) person.
It's just an Hackintosh running the efi v8 emulator
http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_PsyStar_Sells_Mac_Clone_No_Word_from_Apple_Yet_16357.html
EFI V1 - V8
Redistribution and use in binary form for direct or indirect commercial purposes, with or without modification, is stricktly forbidden
http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_PsyStar_Sells_Mac_Clone_No_Word_from_Apple_Yet_16357.html
EFI V1 - V8
Redistribution and use in binary form for direct or indirect commercial purposes, with or without modification, is stricktly forbidden
Are you seriously trying to tell us that you are actually reading, and completely understanding, the complete license for every single software product that you have ever downloaded or purchased? If you ever bought something on iTMS, that you actually read their license terms? Do you think anyone believes you? Do you really think that?
And no, I wouldn't buy a house without reading the contract. But buying a house is a purchase that is worth about eight annual salaries for most people, so the time reading the contract is well spent. The last contract for a house that I signed was actually a lot, lot shorter than most software licenses. Considering that the last house I bought cost a few thousand times more than Leopard, I spend my time reading contracts for house purchases, not for software purchases.
And when I bought my car, still far more than hundred times more costly than Leopard, I made sure that it was a straightforward purchase, skimmed the contract, and relied on the fact that if the dealer or car company tried to pull a fast one, British consumer protection laws would be behind me.
Well, that would be great. I would just buy one Mac, and when I need a bigger hard drive I would ask it to make one. Same with memory. No need to pay for upgrades ever, just let the Mac make its own hardware.
(I think you may have believed that Apple Inc. makes their own hardware. Well, they design it. The pay parts from other companies, because doing anything else would be stupid. The hire companies to put these parts together, which means Apple is leveraging their assets in the best possible way. )
The wankers behind Pystar have not got one ounce of business sense what so ever.
All apple needs to do is buy the efi emultor source code and everything that goes with it and bye bye one problem.
These guys will also need mountains of money to want to take on apple who will ultimately take them down legally.
If people read the crappy website it has so much BS and most is to do with windows and niot much to very little about mac.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that they will breaking microsoft licencing stuff as well. I for one am wondering what they are thinking about this.
All apple needs to do is buy the efi emultor source code and everything that goes with it and bye bye one problem.
These guys will also need mountains of money to want to take on apple who will ultimately take them down legally.
If people read the crappy website it has so much BS and most is to do with windows and niot much to very little about mac.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that they will breaking microsoft licencing stuff as well. I for one am wondering what they are thinking about this.
)I am a vista fan, that is very true. I am not a mac fan and never have been, that is not only from my experiences, but from others as well.
I am very coherent in my thoughts and yes i am flaming mac's. I have found absolutely no productive use for a Mac that i cannot do equally as well with a PC for at least a thousand dollars less.
There is a reason mac has such a small part of the market. Even after 90% of the children grew up using good old apple IIgs they still shy away from macs.
Could it be because they are inferior and costly? Nothing original? Lack of function?
I am very coherent in my thoughts and yes i am flaming mac's. I have found absolutely no productive use for a Mac that i cannot do equally as well with a PC for at least a thousand dollars less.
There is a reason mac has such a small part of the market. Even after 90% of the children grew up using good old apple IIgs they still shy away from macs.
Could it be because they are inferior and costly? Nothing original? Lack of function?
Let me correct you, once a normal person uses Mac, they will start using it because its much easier to use, no need to pull down their hair when something goes wrong.
The normal person Im referring is people who use a PC to do work stuffs (basic stuffs). Usually these people dont have a clue what is happening in their PC.
I know a lot of people say Mac OS is useless cause you cant do much with it, but from my opinion, the point of you cant do much in it which makes it good. What's the point of toying around the internal of your OS?.
Oh yeah and if you dont like Mac, why do you spend on a MBP while you can get a Vaio or better a Dell which has better specs then an Apple computer at much cheaper price.
You say nothing original, but do you realize a lot of PC manufacturers copy Apple move, Apple was the one to popularize webcam into notebook and guess what, 6 months later every notebook has build in webcam. MBA is a good recent example (yeah it does has it shortcoming), but guess what, now PC manufacturers are releasing thinner notebook to compete with MBA, why cant they release it earlier?.
Now the biggest one, AIO desktop, I know a lot of people dont agree with AIO desktop but the point is, when Apple is small, big PC manufacturers dont bother into AIO desktop but look what happen now? More and MORE PC manufacturer start delving into AIO because they know PEOPLE are BUYING Apple iMacs because of it looks.
I went to Billabong and their cashier uses iMac. I went to some creative design workplace and all of them are using iMacs, when I ask the director why they are using iMacs and not use PC where they can get cheaper, he says that PC makes their workspace look messy.
So is Apple not original? NO!, PC manufacturers are not original cause they copy Apple move which works!. Oh yeah and I think those fingerprint technology is only a move by PC manufacturers to make people think their system is more secured but in truth, hackers can still bypass the fingerprint security.
The normal person Im referring is people who use a PC to do work stuffs (basic stuffs). Usually these people dont have a clue what is happening in their PC.
I know a lot of people say Mac OS is useless cause you cant do much with it, but from my opinion, the point of you cant do much in it which makes it good. What's the point of toying around the internal of your OS?.
Oh yeah and if you dont like Mac, why do you spend on a MBP while you can get a Vaio or better a Dell which has better specs then an Apple computer at much cheaper price.
You say nothing original, but do you realize a lot of PC manufacturers copy Apple move, Apple was the one to popularize webcam into notebook and guess what, 6 months later every notebook has build in webcam. MBA is a good recent example (yeah it does has it shortcoming), but guess what, now PC manufacturers are releasing thinner notebook to compete with MBA, why cant they release it earlier?.
Now the biggest one, AIO desktop, I know a lot of people dont agree with AIO desktop but the point is, when Apple is small, big PC manufacturers dont bother into AIO desktop but look what happen now? More and MORE PC manufacturer start delving into AIO because they know PEOPLE are BUYING Apple iMacs because of it looks.
I went to Billabong and their cashier uses iMac. I went to some creative design workplace and all of them are using iMacs, when I ask the director why they are using iMacs and not use PC where they can get cheaper, he says that PC makes their workspace look messy.
So is Apple not original? NO!, PC manufacturers are not original cause they copy Apple move which works!. Oh yeah and I think those fingerprint technology is only a move by PC manufacturers to make people think their system is more secured but in truth, hackers can still bypass the fingerprint security.
Why are you even here? BTW- I work a a large company that's all Mac-based. The IT guys love it- their jobs are easier.
It doesn't matter if you actually read them. You're held responsible for them, so you probably should just spend the five minutes doing it. Software licenses are not much different than the other contracts you come across quite frequently. If you don't review the substantive portion of a software license, however, you're failing your duty as a party.
Most software licenses are 2-3 pages long, and around half of that is notices and disclaimers for liability purposes (and just skimming that boilerplate to make sure nothing is slipped in takes almost no time). Simple one-off download apps usually have even shorter licenses. The OS X license, for example, has one page of substantive license terms. On a $130 purchase, taking five minutes to look it over isn't burdensome.
No it wasn't. The sheer number of documents involved in a real estate transaction, even at one page each (unrealistic), is considerably longer than any end-user software license I have ever seen, and I've seen hundreds.
Well, that is irresponsible of you. Consumer protection laws are not complete protections, and there are many perfectly acceptable terms that you might want to rewrite or strike, and surrendering that stage of negotiating with the reckless hope that it will not affect you is not a wise choice.
What you describe is fine for mass-products with uniform licenses, but when entering into a major purchase (vehicle, land, house, business, remodel), it's worth your time to read carefully. It's not like you buy a car every month, and the five hours you spend at the dealer won't be that much worse if you take the extra half-hour to read carefully.
Consumer protection laws exist for software licenses, too. But, case in point, a platform restriction is basic and material to the license here and no consumer protection law in either the UK or the US has any impact on that. Consumer protection laws protect you from binding arbitration, and surprise clauses (e.g. you're also entering this second debt with your car purchase because we slyly inflated your trade-in price and issued a second loan), and hidden waivers.
Oh, really? Care to point me to a link?
How so?
And they are, for the most part UGLY and underpowered.
This makes no sense. How is a MBP non-functional?
That's because infrastructure that's been in place for years is costly to change. It doesn't help that most of the users are very resistant to change.
What? So what? It's the fact that it's running under Windows.
Haha
No, they're not. And stop it with the FUD. Hacks are a social engineering problem. I like how you also don't ever point to any kind of references when making arguments. I'm assuming you mean this. The Macbook that was hacked had to have third party software installed, and because it's much harder to just run arbitrary code on OSX, it's actually a much safer OS.
And they were patched within a day or so. How many "huge" security holes are discovered every week with IE and Windows?
You just make stuff up as you go, huh? 3X? really? Show me. Oh, wait, that's right you just make up numbers to support your weak arguments.
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Mac fanatics are geek trying to be cool? Hmm, if I dance, and like sports and I design, am I not cool enough? am I still considered a geek?
But they stop developing them for a while am I correct? Look who revive em back
Honestly, I cant stop thinking you are a MSoft fanatic who just trash Mac cause Psystar did something to Mac (which is in other word steal other people work and sell em). Why would you even want to own a MBP if you are such a windows fanatic? Better quality? Nah, I call it a desperation to escape from the wrath of Vista.
What more do you expect? Media card reader? Biometric finger security?
Oh yeah and I know ultra thin exists a couple of years, but how many made it super thin like the MBA?
Yeah it is vulnerable but not as vulnerable as PC, why? erm...UNIX anyone?. The person managed to hacked into the MBA because of 3rd party software. Once a 3rd party software is used, it makes easier for a hacker to hack it. Regardless OS X or Vista. I saw a video on youtube where a guy explain that he hacked OS X because of a non secured 3rd party hardware. He also mention that he can do the very same thing on a Vista or XP not only on OS X.