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Pulled over for "thinking" I was speeding

D.T. said:
Yeah, and within the constraints SAE J1226 that most US manufacturers follow in terms of speedo accuracy, there's 4% tolerance (though specific speed biased). 31 or 32 in a 30? A judge would laugh that out of a courtroom and tell the officer to focus on more important tasks. :D And anymore in 2017, you pretty much need documented, calibrated instrumentation (even "pacing" doesn't fly anymore).

Bottom line, they had no idea he was speeding, he looked to be going "about the posted limit", it was late, his tags were funky. They didn't really care about his speed, it was just an excuse for a stop, because so many good arrests result from this sort of police activity.

FWIW, I don't go over +5 MPH on the highway (in 65-70MPH posted), and around town I creep, very slowly, because my car is obnoxious and loud :D
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Yeah I was In a bmw m3 but I was making no noise. Just an excuse to pull me over
 
P51mustang said:
It's on dvla
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The DVLA website is incorrect. Their website is not legally recognised as part of a UK drivers test. The only document that is, is the Highway Code. In that document it states that drivers are NOT to exceed the maximum speed limit of a road.

Getting stopped for speeding is at the discretion of the police. In many cases the police will let the driver off with a warning but in the majority of cases the driver will get a speeding ticket if they exceed the maximum speed of the road.
 
D.T. said:
Yeah, and within the constraints SAE J1226 that most US manufacturers follow in terms of speedo accuracy, there's 4% tolerance (though specific speed biased). 31 or 32 in a 30? A judge would laugh that out of a courtroom and tell the officer to focus on more important tasks. :D And anymore in 2017, you pretty much need documented, calibrated instrumentation (even "pacing" doesn't fly anymore).

Bottom line, they had no idea he was speeding, he looked to be going "about the posted limit", it was late, his tags were funky. They didn't really care about his speed, it was just an excuse for a stop, because so many good arrests result from this sort of police activity.

FWIW, I don't go over +5 MPH on the highway (in 65-70MPH posted), and around town I creep, very slowly, because my car is obnoxious and loud :D
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I got lucky on my bike, I was doing 61 on a 45 :eek:, thing is this cager lady was riding my butt so I of course gave the throttle a twist and boom, TWO motorcycle cops stop BOTH of us, she got a speeding ticket and I got a ticket for "failure to obey a sign", that ran me $265 :( but it was far better than speeding with a point on the driving record and all the BS fees you get nowadays:mad: here you can be going 90 on the carpool lane and NOT be able to get away because you have another clown going 90 on your right :eek:
skip to the 2 minute mark and you will see me checking my mirrors as they were right on my butt. at the 3:20 or so I finally manage to get out of the way and you see the guy that was riding my butt :mad:
 
P51mustang said:
Yeah I was In a bmw m3 but I was making no noise. Just an excuse to pull me over
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Ah, @D.T. - I don't think the police were looking for creative sources of income (though that has been known to happen), and OP, the tone of your posts is changing from slight worry, speculating over whether the police were "thinking" you were speeding to arguing that they were "looking for an excuse" to pull you over.

Do bear in mind, that they were perfectly within their rights to pull you over, and, while the excess speed in question (given that your affairs were in order, and you clearly didn't have a prior record) was paltry, it was still excess speed. You admitted that yourself in your original post.

You were well treated.
 
Oh man, I was hoping for video of the police interaction :D

Failure to obey a sign", I've never heard of that, sounds like it's a more minor infraction vs. straight up speeding (which in itself, is not obeying a sign" ...) And no points?
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Scepticalscribe said:
Ah, @D.T. - I don't think the police were looking for creative sources of income
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Just to be clear, that's not what I said :)

They didn't really care about his speed, it was just an excuse for a stop, because so many good arrests result from this sort of police activity.
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Law enforcement officers have some leeway in citing drivers. For example, they're more likely to ticket you for going three MPH over the limit in a school zone during the day than in a sparsely-populated area in the middle of the night. I'm certain that how you respond when they question you and ask for your documents has a lot to do with it, too, so it pays to be non-confrontational and polite.
 
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jkcerda said:
it was nothing more than a "warning", hell got a feeling they stopped you for the hell of it and "speeding" was just an excuse. happens all the time.
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or they could have been looking for someone driving a car that the op drives. i have that happen in the past because i have a black dodge charger srt 392 and the police were looking for someone who fled the scene in a black dodge charger.
 
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Scepticalscribe said:
Ah, @D.T. - I don't think the police were looking for creative sources of income (though that has been known to happen), and OP, the tone of your posts is changing from slight worry, speculating over whether the police were "thinking" you were speeding to arguing that they were "looking for an excuse" to pull you over.

Do bear in mind, that they were perfectly within their rights to pull you over, and, while the excess speed in question (given that your affairs were in order, and you clearly didn't have a prior record) was paltry, it was still excess speed. You admitted that yourself in your original post.

You were well treated.
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You are allowed to do 33. And that's properly around 30 because Speedos are not correct
 
P51mustang said:
You are allowed to do 33. And that's properly around 30 because Speedos are not correct
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How old are you? It's not unheard of for some people to get pulled over by cops because they are in a nice car late at night.

I've mostly not had any issues here in the UK.
They were checking your car was yours and taxed, MOT'd and insured.
Bring it down to 30 and you'll have less issues in future.
 
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Apple fanboy said:
How old are you? It's not unheard of for some people to get pulled over by cops because they are in a nice car late at night.

I've mostly not had any issues here in the UK.
They were checking your car was yours and taxed, MOT'd and insured.
Bring it down to 30 and you'll have less issues in future.
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P51mustang said:
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Late at night m3 cursing about in the early morning it's common for people to get pulled over but back to the start. Do you think I got away with it
 
P51mustang said:
You can do 33 in a 30 here as they allow 10% +2
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While that may be a rule of thumb, if you're over the limit, you can get a ticket regardless of being within 10% +2.

Bear in mind that a speed limit is the maximum allowable speed in good conditions. Add rain, fog, wind, etc., to that and you should be slowing down below the speed limit. Few people do. But that's the theory.

It doesn't matter if you're driving the same speed as the rest of traffic. If you're over the limit, a cop can cite you.
 
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P51mustang said:
Hi I was pulled over at half 12 in the morning and the officers said they thought I was speeding. I said I was doing 33 in a 30 to which they did not reply. I then said this has private plates because I have just bought the car but the original plates are getting put back on. They checked out the plates and said they were fine.

They asked me where I was going and i responded. Then they checked out my driving licence and address and said how long have you been driving to which I responded 1 year and 8 months. They said ok off you go, slow down and that was that.

Shall I take this as a verbal warning or am I going to get points because they did not directly say I was speeding but we thought you were speeding so it sounds like they did not have the correct equipment on them.

What shall I expect.
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Nothing to worry about if you didn't get a ticket. You handled it well.
 
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Just going to toss out there that speedometer calibration, radar calibration, technique, etc at least in the US wouldn't come into play in this situation.

You told the officer you were going 33 in a 30. Yes, most officers will let you off with a warning for that amount over, but if push came to shove the ticket would probably stick because you admitted guilt to the officer.

There again, I say that through a US lens. I'm not an officer, lawyer, or in any way affiliated with either profession. I'm just saying that in that situation, the best thing you can do is shut up. Be compliant and answer questions honestly, but don't offer information like specific numbers.

There again, you admitted to the officer that you were speeding-like I said in the US that's all that would be needed to make it a valid ticket.
 
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bunnspecial said:
Just going to toss out there that speedometer calibration, radar calibration, technique, etc at least in the US wouldn't come into play in this situation.

You told the officer you were going 33 in a 30. Yes, most officers will let you off with a warning for that amount over, but if push came to shove the ticket would probably stick because you admitted guilt to the officer.

There again, I say that through a US lens. I'm not an officer, lawyer, or in any way affiliated with either profession. I'm just saying that in that situation, the best thing you can do is shut up. Be compliant and answer questions honestly, but don't offer information like specific numbers.

There again, you admitted to the officer that you were speeding-like I said in the US that's all that would be needed to make it a valid ticket.
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No radar gun or cameras were user
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P51mustang said:
No radar gun or cameras were user
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And I said it said 33 on my dash so give or take a few mph
 
P51mustang said:
Hi I was pulled over at half 12 in the morning and the officers said they thought I was speeding. I said I was doing 33 in a 30 to which they did not reply. I then said this has private plates because I have just bought the car but the original plates are getting put back on. They checked out the plates and said they were fine.

They asked me where I was going and i responded. Then they checked out my driving licence and address and said how long have you been driving to which I responded 1 year and 8 months. They said ok off you go, slow down and that was that.

Shall I take this as a verbal warning or am I going to get points because they did not directly say I was speeding but we thought you were speeding so it sounds like they did not have the correct equipment on them.

What shall I expect.
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But as I said they took down the registration number and my driving licence but I did not receive a verbal nip or anything like that. They said off you go but watch the speed
 
Right early on in the video seeing you run up the center line to the front at the stop light, made the rest of the video moot.
I get what you mean about "crazy CA drivers".:rolleyes:
 
P51mustang said:
And I said it said 33 on my dash so give or take a few mph
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And if you'd been given a ticket and went to court in the US(which is your right on any ticket), the officer would get on the stand and say "Driver admitted to traveling 33mph. The posted speed limit was 30mph."

You hung yourself the second you admitted to speeding. Nothing else would matter-the ticket would stick. The only thing that would dismiss it is a generous feeling judge who might say "Well 3 over is a really small amount to ticket someone."

Like I said, it doesn't matter if you think there's an allowed difference in speedometer reading-in reality in most places(in the US) whether or not you're ticketed for a few over probably depends on the officer's mood and whether your attitude helps or hurts that mood.
 
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jkcerda said:
it was nothing more than a "warning", hell got a feeling they stopped you for the hell of it and "speeding" was just an excuse. happens all the time.
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It’s been along time for me although I was stopped two years ago for not having a plate on the front of my car. Here is my question/impression which is there are two kinds of warning, a verbal of which there is no record, and written, such as get your brake light fixed ASAP, where it is recorded in some fashion, I suppose to hand out a ticket in the future if the directive is not complied with?
 
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