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Yeah, you're just proving my point. You're not making good fiscal decisions because of some irrational preference for being a pack-rat of quickly depreciating technology. If you want to collect iPhones that's your prerogative, but there's really no practical/fiscal/rational reason for your buying habits.

Sp tell me why that matters? I still use my original iPhone just for the fun of it. As long as I'm still happy with what I've bought and have a use for those things. it isn't a bad decision at all.
 
Are you the arbiter of fiscal decisions. Sorry... but if SpaceKitty finds value in the phones she bought and that's her PREFERENCE it's not a bad fiscal decision.

Oh, it's a bad fiscal decision. It can be her preference, and I never said it couldn't be.


You probably also think that it's stupid for someone to buy a kindle when they can buy an iPad which does so much more... right?

They're for different uses. I have a Kindle.

Again - you're making a backwards case. $100 is $100. And why spend it if you don't have to or WANT to? That's financially stupid.

Who said anything about anyone being WORRIED about the money. Just because I have money to burn doesn't mean I need to spend more on something that won't be of greater value to me.

Wow.

Wow indeed. That $100 will be gained back when resold. And the proper fiscal decision is to resell or hand down when done with technology, not pack rat it and save it. It's tying up unused assets. When evaluating decisions on a fiscal basis, pretend you're a company. Would a company keep old equipment that isn't being used in a useful manner when it could be sold to get cash? No. That's all I'm talking about, fiscally, but you're all willingly misinterpreting what I'm saying to mean that I don't support SpaceKitty's right to do whatever she wants.

Post #42 sums up my argument, which you subsequently disagreed with. You are wrong in this regard.
 
Because I'm just providing my opinion. I hate this response that people make. Who are you to judge me on me judging? See, I can do it too! When you put stuff on a forum you open yourself up to other people commenting on it. That's the deal, that's discussion.

Also, worrying about $100 upfront on a contract that is going to cost thousands of dollars over the coming years is troubling. If you're worried about $100, you shouldn't be getting into a longterm smartphone contract. That was my point.

YOU are the one who said people who buy the 8gig 3gs phones should not be buying iphones. Not me. That is judging my friend and completely unwarranted:rolleyes:

I listed reasons why many may choose the 3gs over the ip4..... My family has the ability to easily afford the 4 but decided they wanted the 3gs. The fact that is is 100 cheaper is an extra bonus. Explain that

Why should people buy a phone that they don't need the "new" features for? Not everyone gets sucked into needing the latest and greatest and let's face it, the 3gs is a great phone....
 
Oh, it's a bad fiscal decision. It can be her preference, and I never said it couldn't be.




They're for different uses. I have a Kindle.



Wow indeed. That $100 will be gained back when resold. And the proper fiscal decision is to resell or hand down when done with technology, not pack rat it and save it. It's tying up unused assets. When evaluating decisions on a fiscal basis, pretend you're a company. Would a company keep old equipment that isn't being used in a useful manner when it could be sold to get cash? No. That's all I'm talking about, fiscally, but you're all willingly misinterpreting what I'm saying to mean that I don't support SpaceKitty's right to do whatever she wants.

Post #42 sums up my argument, which you subsequently disagreed with. You are wrong in this regard.

By your argument then - buying an iPhone is fiscally irresponsible because you can buy much cheaper phones. You know - if you run your personal life like a business and want to watch the bottom line.

It's not always about the money. Whether to spend it or not to spend it. That's the point. And when you go telling people (not me - Space Kitty) that she's not being fiscally responsible, you're being a bit of a sod.
 
YOU are the one who said people who buy the 8gig 3gs phones should not be buying iphones. Not me. That is judging my friend and completely unwarranted:rolleyes:

I can judge all I want. It's a forum, that's it's purpose. To learn, inform others, be persuaded, persuade. It all involves assessing the situation and relating your opinion, which you call judging.

I listed reasons why many may choose the 3gs over the ip4..... My family has the ability to easily afford the 4 but decided they wanted the 3gs. The fact that is is 100 cheaper is an extra bonus. Explain that

That's their preference, whatever. But they're going to lose $100 or so on the resale.

Why should people buy a phone that they don't need the "new" features for? Not everyone gets sucked into needing the latest and greatest and let's face it, the 3gs is a great phone....

The 3GS is a great phone. I'd take it over a Nexus One or any of the Android phones, however, my main point is that it just doesn't make sense to get one unless you for some reason HATE something about the iPhone 4. My opinion, however, is that people will get the iPhone 3GS because it's cheaper, not realizing the long-term consequences and implications of them signing a contract.

samcraig said:
By your argument then - buying an iPhone is fiscally irresponsible because you can buy much cheaper phones. You know - if you run your personal life like a business and want to watch the bottom line.

That's ridiculous. The iPhone 4 has additional capabilities over normal phones. I admit, the iPhone 4 is a luxury, but if you've decided on getting a smartphone, why not make the most fiscally responsible choice?

It's not always about the money.

What don't you people get? I only commented on the portion of this decision that had to do with the money. Hell, you quoted my post where I told you exactly the post number that was the basis of my argument.

And when you go telling people (not me - Space Kitty) that she's not being fiscally responsible, you're being a bit of a sod.

She is making decisions that aren't fiscally wise. She's buying more iPhones than she needs and then collecting them. Did I ever say she didn't have the right? No, I'm just commenting on what's she disagreed with me on, namely that my post #42 was incorrect. Look.
 
I have to wonder how old you are. And that's not meant as a slight because there are people who are my age that act the same way as you. But you're seeing things in a very black and white way. And oh yeah - you just have to be "right."

Ok Badandy. You're right. We're all wrong. We're all fiscally irresponsible.
 
She is making decisions that aren't fiscally wise. She's buying more iPhones than she needs and then collecting them. Did I ever say she didn't have the right? No, I'm just commenting on what's she disagreed with me on, namely that my post #42 was incorrect. Look.

Actually, I was wrong when I said I still owned every iPhone I have ever purchased. I gave a 3G to a friend who can't afford allot. She didn't want it as a phone, just an iPod. She was so happy to have it and she still uses it and carries it with her every time I see her. I'm glad I had one to give her.
 
Actually, I was wrong when I said I still owned every iPhone I have ever purchased. I gave a 3G to a friend who can't afford allot. She didn't want it as a phone, just an iPod. She was so happy to have it and she still uses it and carries it with her every time I see her. I'm glad I had one to give her.

That was fiscally a wrong decision. You gave away an asset for which you cannot sell. It's a total loss now. Why would you do something so stupid? ;)
 
Actually, I was wrong when I said I still owned every iPhone I have ever purchased. I gave a 3G to a friend who can't afford allot. She didn't want it as a phone, just an iPod. She was so happy to have it and she still uses it and carries it with her every time I see her. I'm glad I had one to give her.

You gave an iphone away? How dare you be that fiscally irresponsible for being kind to a friend;)
 
I bought a 3GS. At the time the 4 wasn't released in Canada yet, and I realized the 3GS did everything I needed it to do. I bought outright so it was a ~$230 difference after tax ($549 vs $759 for the 32GB iPhone 4). Had the 3GS not met my needs I'd have waited for the 4 and paid the difference in cost, but the 3GS does everything I need it to do.
 
iphone 4s are pretty much sold out all over canada. so rather than being 40-50th on a waitlist, i got a new 3GS with the same iOS4 right away for less money. it does what i want it to and does it well. [shrug] makes sense to me.
 
Well, you bought a year-old phone in a 3GS for the same price as a 16GB iPhone 4 and then bought a $99 3GS instead of a $199 iPhone 4. Did you consider resale values? You'll make back most, if not all of the money you "saved" from cheaping out, and that's not even including the fact that you and your familiy will be able to use a far better phone for the time you own them. I'm not trying to insult you, just relating my opinion. Stop being personally offended.

Not everybody thinks the iP4 is better than the 3GS. That phone has had more problems than any of them so far and it is a friggin china doll.
Why does it bother you so much? You like what you have, then great but to say whoever doesnt buy a iP4 over a 3GS shouldnt own an iphone is the stupidest thing ive seen in this thread.
 
Again - you're making a backwards case. $100 is $100. And why spend it if you don't have to or WANT to? That's financially stupid.

Who said anything about anyone being WORRIED about the money. Just because I have money to burn doesn't mean I need to spend more on something that won't be of greater value to me.

Wow.

Well hey, if you dont want to spend that extra $100, then you shouldnt have an iPhone at all ;):D:rolleyes:
 
I feel sorry for everyone who is paying the same amount as me per month for an inferior phone.


I honestly feel sorry for you all.
 
I feel sorry for everyone who is paying the same amount as me per month for an inferior phone.


I honestly feel sorry for you all.

This was kind of what I was getting at.

Say your bill is about $70 a month.

Lumping the cost of the 8GB 3GS in there, your monthly cost is roughly $74 a month over the course of 2 years.

Lumping in the coast of the 16GB iP4, your monthly cost is roughly $78 a month over the course of 2 years.

That $4, to anyone who has a high-end phone and plan like the iPhone, should definitely not be a deal breaker.

But as some have pointed out, there are valid reasons for choosing the base model 3GS over the 4. Be it, just preferring the form factor of the 3GS, or just simply not needing/wanting any of the new features. Possibly also no need for any more than minimal storage.

But I just think that iPhone users aren't penny pinchers, so money has got to be very rare in the reasons for choosing the base model. The monthly bill is the same no matter what phone you get.

This sure turned into a lively and spirited debate. lol. didn't expect it to get this much traction.

I was also asking this to get a feel for people's thoughts on the iPhone 4 lineup, and compare it to what Apple might do with the new iPod touches coming out.
 
I bought a 3GS for my wife a couple of weeks ago for a few reasons.

1) It's was her first iPhone. She has little patience for technology that is doesn't work right. The proximity sensor issue alone would have made her give up on the iPhone 4 in a week.

2) She's rough on a cell phone. The glass structure of the iPhone 4 would be an accident waiting to happen. S

3) She didn't need the space. She's just dipping her toe into apps. Her data usage is minimal. She still keeps her music on her iPod because she feels it's more durable when she's working out. I doubt any more than 3 gigs will ever be filled.

Bottom line is she loves the phone and I think will eventually grow to appreciate all the functionality it has. But a $100 Apple store gift card we had and a $15/month 200MB plan made it a much easier way to try it than a $200/$30 month plan we would have had to get before.

People who log into this site are devoted Apple fans/product users. What's 'mainstream' for here, isn't necessarily what's mainstream for the overall iPhone community. There are literally millions of users who don't know/care about jailbreaking, newest OS releases or what color underwear Steve Jobs has on that day. While we get all caught up on tracking packages from China, many users simply see it as a pretty cool cell phone and are perfectly happy with the 3GS.
 
My mate is self employed & wanted 2 iPhones through O2 Business, one for him & one for his 19 year old daughter, on a shared tariff. He got the iPhone 4 but his daughter opted for the 3G S as she "doesn't like the looks of the iPhone 4".
 
You do know there is no such thing as a 199 dollar iPhone right? Actually they cost around 600 or 700 hundred dollars, which what most normal people in other countries pay. Mainly the US operators have duped a willing to be duped public into thinking phones cost only a couple hundred dollars. Your post is a testament to this line of thinking.

So in exchange for staying with a carrier for 2 years, a carrier we were already going to be on, they knock 400 dollars off the phone. Yep we are getting duped real bad :mad:
 
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