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Quite the contrary. You have a 4,1. Which is identical to the 5,1. Flash the 5,1 firmware on it, and install a 6-core CPU.
This is the system ~90% of the users (myself included) own in the Mac Pro forum. The MP forum is the only forum aside from this one that actually has a lot of good, useful knowledge provided by intelligent people.

Good to know there's at least one other subforum that is not just a million "Should I buy now or wait?" threads.
 
Nice find! I was thinking about one myself, but I am more of a laptop guy.

Hope you stick around in the PPC forum as you're one of the most knowledgeable folks around here.
Thank you. I just try to help. Right off the top of my head I can think of several people here far more knowledgeable than I, but I do appreciate the kind thought.

It was @LightBulbFun that found it for me, so the credit goes to him. I usually consult him since he's pretty good at finding stuff for less $$$$ on eBay. And he had advice (@bunnspecial too) on what to get.

Anyway, no intent to go anywhere. I still have old Macs (my G3 is my server) and they are all still used. Even if I didn't, I'd still stick around to help where I could.
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I agree! Please stick around, or at least drop by every now and then. You make great contributions here ;)
Same reply. Not going anywhere. :D
 
You know, this might motivate me to finally get a Mac Pro ;)

The question is what model though... Probably a 2008 model so I can offload some of the music production duties of my MacBook onto a more powerful machine, but we'll just have to see what comes forth.

I am a fan of my lowly 1,1 quad core 3ghz (woodcrest). I definitely enjoy it but it is tied to ElCap. I picked this up back in 2017 for something stupid like 50 bucks on CL.
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I Highly recommend you search one out. They make great DAWs in the same way a DC or Quad PMG5 can and if you keep an eye out, you'll undoubtedly run into one for cheap. I see folks dropping 1,1s very cheap considering their OS limitations but as a DAW that would not matter much.
 
I am a fan of my lowly 1,1 quad core 3ghz (woodcrest). I definitely enjoy it but it is tied to ElCap. I picked this up back in 2017 for something stupid like 50 bucks on CL.
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I Highly recommend you search one out. They make great DAWs in the same way a DC or Quad PMG5 can and if you keep an eye out, you'll undoubtedly run into one for cheap. I see folks dropping 1,1s very cheap considering their OS limitations but as a DAW that would not matter much.
I am still hoping that eventually someone will make an SSE4.x emulator for these things. We've got an SSE4.2 emulator for the 3,1 for AMD GPUs. Nonetheless, 1,1/2,1s are still decent machines for sure. They run Windows 10 like a dream if you're into that. I'm sure linux is another good option. Though I'd imagine 10.11 is still pretty usable since in retrospective it really isn't old at all. Forced obsolescence...
 
Thank you. I just try to help. Right off the top of my head I can think of several people here far more knowledgeable than I, but I do appreciate the kind thought.

It was @LightBulbFun that found it for me, so the credit goes to him. I usually consult him since he's pretty good at finding stuff for less $$$$ on eBay. And he had advice (@bunnspecial too) on what to get.

Anyway, no intent to go anywhere. I still have old Macs (my G3 is my server) and they are all still used. Even if I didn't, I'd still stick around to help where I could.
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Same reply. Not going anywhere. :D
Awesome! I'm glad to hear that :D

I am a fan of my lowly 1,1 quad core 3ghz (woodcrest). I definitely enjoy it but it is tied to ElCap. I picked this up back in 2017 for something stupid like 50 bucks on CL.
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I Highly recommend you search one out. They make great DAWs in the same way a DC or Quad PMG5 can and if you keep an eye out, you'll undoubtedly run into one for cheap. I see folks dropping 1,1s very cheap considering their OS limitations but as a DAW that would not matter much.
Ok, thanks for the info! My MacBook5,2 is officially tied to 10.11, so it won't be much of a change at all :)

I am still hoping that eventually someone will make an SSE4.x emulator for these things. We've got an SSE4.2 emulator for the 3,1 for AMD GPUs. Nonetheless, 1,1/2,1s are still decent machines for sure. They run Windows 10 like a dream if you're into that. I'm sure linux is another good option. Though I'd imagine 10.11 is still pretty usable since in retrospective it really isn't old at all. Forced obsolescence...
I use it as my main and it's perfectly usable :D

The only issue is the lower processing power of my MacBook, which any Mac Pro would be an upgrade in that regard.
 
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I am still hoping that eventually someone will make an SSE4.x emulator for these things. We've got an SSE4.2 emulator for the 3,1 for AMD GPUs. Nonetheless, 1,1/2,1s are still decent machines for sure. They run Windows 10 like a dream if you're into that. I'm sure linux is another good option. Though I'd imagine 10.11 is still pretty usable since in retrospective it really isn't old at all. Forced obsolescence...

ElCap runs extremely well on this box & is what I’ll be using for the foreseeable future as it matches my 08 unibody macbook. I have a Lion install as well but to @Dronecatcher ’s point, L/ML browsers are absolutely useless. I’ve been meaning to install w10 for a while but Elcap has been so good I’ve not had the need with multiple, good w10 boxes already around. It makes more sense to install some linux flavors on there at some point.
 
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I'm surprised to see one of this forums premier PPC advocates move away from the PPC platform over to the Intel platform for their daily driver. When I recommended Intel over PPC for the average user all I got was a bunch of pushback. Now that one of this forums primary PPC users has given up on PPC everyone is in support of the move. Very puzzling.
 
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Congrats on the purchase! It'll be weird to see you on a newer-than-PowerPC Mac as your daily driver. :p

Mojave is a pretty great OS. I'm still using it on my 2012 MacBook Air, and it does everything I need it to! Let us know how you like running a newer OS and machine as a daily computer! :D
 
Congrats on the purchase! It'll be weird to see you on a newer-than-PowerPC Mac as your daily driver. :p

Mojave is a pretty great OS. I'm still using it on my 2012 MacBook Air, and it does everything I need it to! Let us know how you like running a newer OS and machine as a daily computer! :D
LOL! Externally it will seem no different except that one Mac sitting above the other (in the pics I have of my setup) will have gained one optical drive slot. :D
 
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Nice find, I really like the design of the G5/Mac Pro. Lots of other people must have too, considering that case stuck around for so long!
I am a fan of my lowly 1,1 quad core 3ghz (woodcrest). I definitely enjoy it but it is tied to ElCap. I picked this up back in 2017 for something stupid like 50 bucks on CL.

I love my 1,1 as well, I just wish it could run sierra or newer as I'm sure it could still have great performance on a newer OS. It's nearly 14 years old and still a powerhouse if you load it up. Runs windows and El Cap flawlessly. I think the cheesegraters are the best computer Apple has made, or at least really close.
 
congrats! Ive been running my 4,1 upgraded to 5,1 single tray (maxed westmere) Strix 580, for a long long time now, and its probably the best mac ive ever owned. the 3,1 was awesome too, but this is just another level. Awesome machine.

Lol when i first saw the thread, i thought you upgraded to a 1,1/2,1 , cMP.. they too are awesome, and would hope someone one day figures out a way to run the current OSX on it. though runs win10 perfectly, but hampered by final stop at El Capitano for OSX..
 
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I had Lion on it originally with frequent kernel panics - rather than hunting the problem down I put SL on - and felt a speed hike.

I've found SL to be significantly faster than Lion as well - this is particularly noticeable on my MacBook4,1 which underclocks to 1 GHz due to a missing battery.
 
I had Lion on it originally with frequent kernel panics - rather than hunting the problem down I put SL on - and felt a speed hike.
I'm reluctant to shoehorn an unsupported OS on it as I suspect it will break Adobe CS3.
Just for the record, should you ever find yourself in the spot - Adobe CS4 will work up to Sierra. High Sierra and above breaks it. It will run and you can actually 'use' it on anything higher than Sierra, you just can't SEE anything as it's all blank windows.

I imagine that CS3 is probably similar so I'd say that Sierra is your cutoff for it.

In regards to the blank screens, as long as you don't need to see anything you can work with it. For instance, my work MBP has High Sierra. I can open a downsaved IDML file from CC2020 and save out a CS4 INDD file from there to use on my PowerPC Macs. That's a simple matter of opening the file, Save As and then navigating to the destination folder and saving. But if I actually had to interact with the document I can't.
 
So, as expected, the video cards are here. That's what happens when your eBay seller is cross town.

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Note, the Mac you see above is not mine. It's the work MBP I keep referring to.
 
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