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Valid point.

My current 100mbit cellular connection is pretty darn fast though, what will 5G offer to my phone? Lower latency? Honestly, I can’t tell the difference in speed with my cell service vs. my fast-home internet. The internet “wall” has been real for me for a while. On LTE, videos play instantly, pages load fast, apps download quickly.

The only real-world scenario is see having a major impact is downloading a large app from the App Store. Those moments are few and far between.
Latency?
Try gaming on a 3G/4G connection.
 
Actually had to do that a few hours ago via my hotspot to my iMac! Played Rocket League, one of the most latency dependent games out there. Worked fine. Didn’t notice a difference compared to my home internet that was down tonight.
I stand corrected then. Out of interest, what do you get at Speedtest.net for latency on that connection. I can sometimes get as low as 10ms on Virgin Media.
 
I really can't think of any application on a mobile phone that needs this speed.

Something like this might be interesting at some point, when passengers in self-driving cars have long waits and require real time rendering of the surroundings in detail. Many years will certainly pass before then.
It's wise that Apple only implements technologies that actually benefit people in their everyday lives. I hope Apple keeps their useless marketing birds locked up in this question.

One must not jump on every train to feel front.
 
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Look for "The truth about mobile phone and wireless radiation - Dr Devra Davis" on youtube.
 
does anyone really care that much about 5G? It'll be faster but who really needs that kind of speed for browsing on their phone?

Is anyone really gonna be rushing to switch to Android because of 5G access?
 
Let them have it, there won’t be any Usable 5G network here in Germany before 2020 anyways.
 
Oh, dear. Only a few months in and I've already had enough of the 5G hype. Communicating self driving car fleets, large industry operations, military? Sure. Private consumers on their mobile? Ugh, come on.

I couldn't care less for a 5G iPhone in 2020.
 
All in favor of letting android users be guinea pigs, “smash that like button”.
Mmmm you'll still be guinea pigs in 2020, as Apple won't be using Qualcomm, that will be in their second year of 5G, but Intel that will have just released their first product with it.
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Are you serious when blaming about a probable lack of 5G on next-gen iPhones? Which are your data limits?
I have unlimited data, for £15 a month. You?
 
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Mmmm you'll still be guinea pigs in 2020, as Apple won't be using Qualcomm, that will be in their second year of 5G, but Intel that will have just released their first product with it.
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I have unlimited data, for £15 a month. You?
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I really can't think of any application on a mobile phone that needs this speed.

Something like this might be interesting at some point, when passengers in self-driving cars have long waits and require real time rendering of the surroundings in detail. Many years will certainly pass before then.
It's wise that Apple only implements technologies that actually benefit people in their everyday lives. I hope Apple keeps their useless marketing birds locked up in this question.

One must not jump on every train to feel front.
Personal Hotspot........
 
I stand corrected then. Out of interest, what do you get at Speedtest.net for latency on that connection. I can sometimes get as low as 10ms on Virgin Media.
Wifi is 15ms. T-Mobile is 75ms. There is a difference, no doubt. It’s just not very perceptible. A twitch shooter you might see a difference, but who plays CounterStrike on their phone, hah.
 
Mmmm you'll still be guinea pigs in 2020, as Apple won't be using Qualcomm, that will be in their second year of 5G, but Intel that will have just released their first product with it.
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I have unlimited data, for £15 a month. You?
Really? How so?
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Wifi is 15ms. T-Mobile is 75ms. There is a difference, no doubt. It’s just not very perceptible. A twitch shooter you might see a difference, but who plays CounterStrike on their phone, hah.
Ah, I see. That’s a huge difference though. I’m sure plenty of PC/console gamers will notice that.
 
It doesn't make a lot of difference to me with the data "speeds" we are "enjoying" in Germany. If that was a piece of news about e.g. a notchless iPhone or something, then my eyes and attention would be peeled.
 
We had a ton of responses like that about 4G back in 2010 and 2011: "3G is good enough for a phone, no need for anything faster"

well and isnt it true ... lte is nice but for most people not of any worth. most people have a very small data contract and use the internet or youtube barely
 
Here in France you are lucky when you have 3G, in city centers 4G, and the rest of the country E(dge).
Take the world's fastest train from Strasbourg to Paris, and you see them all passing by, including "no coverage at all".
I guess if they first try to implement 3G or 4G country wide, and then we discuss the possibility of having a try-out to implement 5G later on.
So 2020 or later seems a great time span for that.
 
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Having 5G on smartphone is fancy-schmancy, but what good is it really?

… If 5G network’s won’t be everywhere and prevalent, till 2020, or even later??.
I would not be surprised if it isn't until 2021 or later given how slowly 4g/LTE rolled out in many places like here in Europe (Switzerland) and some carriers lagged behind others. No point spending on a Ferrari when all the roads are dirt roads.
 
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Mmmm you'll still be guinea pigs in 2020, as Apple won't be using Qualcomm, that will be in their second year of 5G, but Intel that will have just released their first product with it.
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I have unlimited data, for £15 a month. You?

Is it actually unlimited though?
 
No one needs it, no one cares. Are you serious?! Or is 5g something that you don't need until apple announces it? I've never heard anyone say they don't need faster data and that BS about guinea pigs - really, do you not mind being a guinea pig when testing beta versions of iOS. Also only because YOU don't need it because you have Wi-Fi all over the place, doesn't mean that the rest of the population does too.
 
I work in entertainment industry and due to my work I have had some experience with possible 5G solutions and applications. In my opinion the data rates are not the biggest benefit of 5G networking. The latency of 5G network is 1 ms or under. This will open up whole new set of possibilities. However, the devices need to be able to utilise the capabilities of the network and I’m not just talking about connecting to 5G network. Let’s put it this way, if network, device and applications work the way they should then everything happens under blink of an eye. Therefore, it’s not just about sticking a 5G capable modem chip on device and then everything magically changes. I might be totally wrong, but I believe the first 5G devices will be underpowered to really utilise the 5G network.
 
I would not be surprised if it isn't until 2021 or later given how slowly 4g/LTE rolled out in many places like here in Europe (Switzerland) and some carriers lagged behind others. No point spending on a Ferrari when all the roads are dirt roads.
Not a great analogy. Dirt road are always dirty and slippery. Busy but tarmac based roads tend to get clear at times.
 
No one needs it, no one cares. Are you serious?! Or is 5g something that you don't need until apple announces it? I've never heard anyone say they don't need faster data and that BS about guinea pigs - really, do you not mind being a guinea pig when testing beta versions of iOS. Also only because YOU don't need it because you have Wi-Fi all over the place, doesn't mean that the rest of the population does too.
The issue is that there is no point having a 5G capable device until the network and infrastructure are in place. My 5 was 4G capable but my carrier was not when I got it in early 2013. The post above mine explains the benefits but everything needs to be in place.
 
The main point about 5G isn't faster speeds for individuals but better use of frequencies and less congestion, thus larger overall capacity for more people to use.

Funny to watch Apple users becoming grandpa, suspicious of new tech. "Better wait, 'cause Apple knows best!".
Please explain exactly what is suspicious in saying that having 5G in a phone in 2019 doesn't make sense when there is no network to connect to and use its advantages? Even 4G/LTE/whatever is not everywhere yet.
 
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