Qualcomm Touts 'Superior Cellular Performance' of Android Phones With Snapdragon 845 Chips

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Qualcomm this morning published a blog post touting the superiority of its Snapdragon 845 chip with integrated X20 LTE modem compared to other competing chips such as the Intel XMM 7480, which is the LTE chip used in some iPhone X models.

    The data Qualcomm is sharing comes from an Ookla database of more than a million speedtests conducted by smartphone users all over the world. For those unfamiliar with Ookla, the company makes a Speedtest service that is designed to provide users with a way to measure their LTE and WiFi connectivity speeds.


    Ookla regularly creates reports based on the user-submitted tests that it collects, which have become popular advertising points for cellular carriers and smartphone manufacturers who come out on top. Qualcomm's blog post focuses on data collected in the most recent Ookla report, from the period between April and June 2018.

    Because Ookla reports can determine connectivity speeds between different devices and chipsets, the data can provide an interesting look at the top performing LTE chips. Qualcomm says that because of the large number of samples taken, the impartiality of the Ookla test, and the notable difference between the Snapdragon 845 and competing chips, it felt compelled to publicize the Ookla results.

    In Ookla's results, which measured download speeds, upload speeds, and latency on the T-Mobile and AT&T networks, the Android smartphones equipped with the Snapdragon 845 included in devices like the Galaxy S9 and S9+, beat out smartphones equipped with Intel XMM 7480 and XMM 7360 chips, which includes the iPhone X, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone 7, and iPhone 7 Plus.


    On T-Mobile's network, for example, the Snapdragon X20 LTE chip was 53 percent faster than the Intel XMM 7480 included in the iPhone X/8/8 Plus when it came to download speeds, and latency was 32 percent lower. It was 68 percent faster downloading content than the Intel XMM 7360 in the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus and offered 35 percent lower latency.

    On AT&T's network, download speeds with Qualcomm's chip were 40 percent faster than the XMM 7480, upload speeds were 20 percent faster, and latency was 20 percent lower. Compared to the XMM 7360, download speeds were 64 percent faster, upload speeds were 41 percent faster, and latency was 27 percent lower.


    Apple's iPhones actually use a mix of chips from Intel and Qualcomm, with some models equipped with Qualcomm's X16, but these devices were not included in the data shared by Qualcomm. The X16 chip is not as new as the X20 and is slower, so this chip would not measure up to Android smartphones equipped with newer technology.

    Samsung also recently used Ookla's speedtest results in an anti-Apple advertisement highlighting the faster download speeds of the Galaxy S9 and the Galaxy S9+.

    It's worth noting that the Galaxy S9 and S9+, along with other Android smartphones equipped with Snapdragon 845 processors and X20 LTE chips, like the LG ThinQ, Asus Zenfone 5Z, and OnePlus 6, are newer than Apple's flagship device, the iPhone X, and thus have newer technology.

    Apple provided the following statement to Bloomberg in response to the speed-test data shared by Qualcomm:
    Apple is planning to introduce a new lineup of smartphones that are set to debut in just about a month and a half, if Apple follows its typical release schedule, and these devices will have new LTE technology.

    Rumors have suggested Apple will introduce improved antenna technology for faster connection speeds, plus dual-SIM dual standby functionality. Apple may be planning to use Intel's XMM 7560 and Qualcomm's X20 chips, both of which are faster than the LTE chips in the iPhone X and will allow Apple's iPhones to better compete with the current crop of Android devices.

    Full, detailed speed comparisons of the Snapdragon 845 with Intel's modems can be found over on Qualcomm's site for those interested.

    Article Link: Qualcomm Touts 'Superior Cellular Performance' of Android Phones With Snapdragon 845 Chips
  2. TimmeyCook, Jul 23, 2018
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2018

    TimmeyCook Suspended


    Jun 20, 2018
    Is that really a joke?

    Seriously, I can't tell...

    Poor people that are buying brand new expensive phones just to get the same exact speed.
  3. Blacky macrumors member

    Jun 27, 2007
  4. viizi macrumors regular

    Dec 2, 2010
    Being faster doesn't make up for the user experience of Android though
  5. MrGimper macrumors 603


    Sep 22, 2012
    Andover, UK
    I can't be bothered to read the article, but does it still get blown out of the water by the response "Yeah but Android needs 4 times the specs/resources, to perform 50% as well/efficiently as iOS" ?
  6. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    Slightly faster LTE, yet CPU performance still gets utterly spanked by the A-series chips. I know what I'd prefer.
  7. anthorumor macrumors 6502a

    Jun 16, 2009
    Sydney, Australia
    As long as my phone calls become faster so I can get on with life.
  8. macintologist macrumors 6502

    May 3, 2004
    What's the point of achieving 30mbps instead of 21mbps on LTE when all that means is you reach your 5 GB data cap 30 minutes sooner?
  9. foobarbaz macrumors 6502a

    Nov 29, 2007
    You have gone pretty far down the list if you resort to bragging about download speeds ...
  10. 69Mustang macrumors 604


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    "With both LTE-Advanced speeds and Apple's custom-designed A11 Bionic, the smartest and most powerful chip ever in a smartphone, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X provide an incredibly fast wireless experience that can easily handle today's most demanding tasks. With up to 27 LTE bands, more than any other smartphone in the world, these iPhones also provide the best worldwide LTE coverage." - Apple

    How is this a response to a speed test?o_O I detest corporate speak.:mad: Apple could have easily said, "Our phones are more than fast enough to handle any task thrown at it." Or better yet, say nothing at all. I think it's a known fact that Qualcomm's modems are generally considered faster than Intel's. Instead they issue a word salad - with no dressing.
  11. pat500000 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2015
    Both companies brag. Example: tim cook “it’s amazing.”
  12. H2SO4 macrumors 601

    Nov 4, 2008
    If you prefer Android, and I don’t, there is nothing to make up for.
    Most of the people I know are on some flavour of Android phone and yes they can easily afford an iPhone. They’d say your post is nonsensical.
  13. djcerla macrumors 68000


    Apr 23, 2015
    Speeds that will be achieved in real world basically... never.
  14. Ries macrumors 68020

    Apr 21, 2007
    Download / upload speed is a function of range and connection/signal reliability. It is not just more speed.
  15. dantroline macrumors regular


    Oct 28, 2016
    Yeah, very trivial issue to boast about. In the phone market, nearly no one cares an iota what chip is in the phone. What's a chip anyway, they might ask. Mid-range phones are now excellent for nearly everyone, where the choice now is phenomenal and prices are quite low. The days where people are hunched over in tears over a crushed $1000 phone will soon be gone, one can hope.

    Android is pretty usable nowadays, and while iOS has been getting necessarily more complex the two are approaching par in terms of learning curve when you change from one to another (in my experience). Most of the issues are now about vendor lock-in which people confuse for 'usability', and practical use of a phone (does it shatter, does it drop calls, does it have a good camera and microphone etc). But from far off, Apple and Android are just phone A vs. A.
  16. rom3o macrumors regular

    Dec 22, 2014
    Being user-submitted speed test, literally all of them were achieved in real world. ;)
  17. BeSweeet macrumors 68000


    Apr 2, 2009
    San Antonio, TX
    They're in the business of cellular modems. Performance is of course going to be something they're going to brag about.

    Can only imagine the replies here if the roles (companies) were reversed...
  18. zarmanto macrumors regular


    Feb 3, 2014
    Around the corner from the 7/11
    I'm always skeptical of "statistics" which intentionally exclude portions of the available data; that old quip about "lies, damn lies and statistics" promptly springs to mind.

    For example, in this instance: why were the Sprint and Verizon iPhone models (those are the ones with that Qualcomm X16 chip) left off of the chart? The obvious gut response would be a speculate that Qualcomm didn't want to point out that their older chip also runs slower than their newer chip -- which is exactly what you would expect from any older chip. But reputable companies often tout the improvements of their own technology over the previous generation of that same technology... so why not do that as well, in this instance? After all, the benchmarks performed last year seemed to suggest that even the X16 beat out the XMM 7480 chips. Didn't it?

    Unless of course the real world results contained within Ookla's Sprint/Verizon dataset didn't match up to the idealized test scenario of those previous benchmarks. Kind'a makes you wonder, doesn't it?
  19. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
    All irrelevent. No provider will be able to meet the specs for a decade at the current build out rates. :apple:
  20. RogerWilco macrumors 6502a


    Jul 29, 2011
    The Android user experience is still inferior to iOS. Apps routinely step all over system-level display elements resulting in blocked messages and weird dialogs that have to be dismissed. This never happens on my wife's iPhone. Battery management in iOS is still far superior to Android.
  21. pete2106 Suspended


    Dec 7, 2012
    Nice, all that malware on the Google Play Store will be able to steal your data all the faster.
  22. I7guy macrumors Core


    Nov 30, 2013
    Gotta be in it to win it
    The implication is if it’s much faster it must be must much betterer, which may or may not be that case(law if diminishing returns). Apple was responding in Apple speak that the wireless speeds their phones support are more than sufficient.

    I’m wondering if cell iPhone providers will allow unlimited, 4K video streaming in 5g?
  23. MoreRumors? macrumors 6502a

    Feb 28, 2018
    Tim's eyeglass lens
    It's good to see companies make new chips that increases speed and it's now up to the network service providers to make improvements on their end. The ribbings we see is what keep all of these on companies their toes to provide the best and use the best components which is great for us consumers.
  24. dantroline macrumors regular


    Oct 28, 2016
    Yes granted, iOS is more consistent. For myself I haven't noticed that for my last two phones. The iPhone UI was my favourite for many years but I like how android lets me set the phone up for my own use case eg: how I hold it, how I unlock it, how I dial it, how I answer it, etc etc. Saves me seconds each time.
    Definitely agree with you there. The walls in Android's garden are pretty porous.
  25. TheShadowKnows! macrumors 6502a


    Sep 30, 2014
    National Capital Region
    Aesop's fable of the race between tortoise and hare, comes to mind:

    "One day a hare was boasting about how fast he could run. He was laughing at the tortoise for being so slow. Much to the hare's surprise, the tortoise challenged him to a race. The hare thought this was a good joke and accepted the challenge. The fox was to be the umpire of the race. As the race began, the hare raced way ahead of the tortoise, just like everyone thought.

    The hare got to the halfway point and could not see the tortoise anywhere. He was hot and tired and decided to stop and take a short nap. Even if the tortoise passed him, he would be able to race to the finish line ahead of him. All this time the tortoise kept walking step by step by step. He never quit no matter how hot or tired he got. He just kept going.

    However, the hare slept longer than he had thought and woke up. He could not see the tortoise anywhere! He went at full speed to the finish line but found the tortoise there waiting for him."

    Never underestimate the [apparently] weaker opponent.

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