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Your experience of not losing connectivity in your neighborhood does not equate to nationwide coverage. I get it. You shop for deals and work with a tight budget. I know you want to cape for T-Mobile and all but facts are facts! T-Mobile is a lower tier provider and does not have the coverage of the big 2. Switch and you will notice the difference immediately. Final word!
I did switch. From ATT to T-Mobile. The only difference I have noticed is that every time I pay the bill I have more money left in my pocket. Oh and their customer service is leaps and bounds better.. Oh and free MLB.tv through T-Mobile Tuesdays... You can keep your fancy more expensive network.
 
Being faster doesn't make up for the user experience of Android though
I actually like the customization that I can do on an Android phone.
I own everything else Apple including a few iPads in the house.
I don't like the use experience of iPhones.

I like Android and specifically a phone with a boot loader I can unlock.
I don't want a device that I don't own. Most mobile devices are owned either by the carrier or by the manufacturer.
You don't own an iPhone. You can't look at the file system. You can't decide to use a host file based add blocker.

So an iPhone is not for everyone, but neither is Android.
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Imagine all that speed, for facebook and instagram. The days where speed were important was when 3G was introduced. There’s a diminishing point of return when you approach about 5mbps on cellular because:

1. Data cap
2. 1080p HD is attained at that speed
3. Apps like FB, Snapchat and Instagram Stories loads without buffer
4. Chat apps need only a fraction of those speed anyway.

The only way to notice speed is to do an actual speed test or download an app over the app store which has restrictions on file size anyway.


People won’t care as long as data is delivered without any hiccup.

I agree, beyond 20Mbps download and 5Mbps upload it's all academic.
Most people at home get by with less.
 
This is all bogus information and not relevant.

I say bogus because I personally witnessed when AT&T was doing an infrastructure upgrade like 2 years ago that my iPhone 6 consistently pulled down over 100mbps and 40mbps upload speed and 20-30ms latency. that went on about a week, testing from multiple locations over that time it consistently did that level of data transfer, and had others test, all with same results. We also had HD voice quality during that period... About a week later they put the limits on it and the past two years we're capped like 20/2mbps. so clearly, hardware is fully capable and is infrastructure... making all this simply BS and not caused by the chipset.

the reason it's not relevant, most people don't care and so many transmitter points are saturated or signal degraded from their location that they are lucky to see 0.25mb either direction with AT&T, so these theoretically (incorrect) limits require pristine conditions... and as mentioned above, they still don't reach numbers that old iPhone 6's can do.
 
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You have gone pretty far down the list if you resort to bragging about download speeds ...

Are you serious? Do you prefer GPRS or something? Modern smartphones are all about Internet connectivity (although they do have other useful features).
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This is all bogus information and not relevant.

I say bogus because I personally witnessed when AT&T was doing an infrastructure upgrade like 2 years ago that my iPhone 6 consistently pulled down over 100mbps and 40mbps upload speed and 20-30ms latency. that went on about a week, testing from multiple locations over that time it consistently did that level of data transfer, and had others test, all with same results. We also had HD voice quality during that period... About a week later they put the limits on it and the past two years we're capped like 20/2mbps. so clearly, hardware is fully capable and is infrastructure... making all this simply BS and not caused by the chipset.

the reason it's not relevant, most people don't care and so many transmitter points are saturated or signal degraded from their location that they are lucky to see 0.25mb either direction with AT&T, so these theoretically (incorrect) limits require pristine conditions... and as mentioned above, they still don't reach numbers that old iPhone 6's can do.

I do not think it would be a good idea for anyone to take your anecdotal evidence over the millions of actual (and accurate) measurements done by Ookla.
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Truely Amazing, today's phone with all the current chips is faster, in some circumstances, they a 9 month old phone. I wonder if they will still be running this ad in 2 ½ months when the new iPhones, with current chips, come out?

It definitely matters to those who are buying the phone now (since they can't buy an iPhone with "new" chip). Besides, since Apple is using Intel modems now it's very likely that "new" iPhones will still have slower LTE than "old" Android phones.
 
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Yo Qualcomm, when will you launch a "superior" chip that competes with the iPhone from two years ago?

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Qualcomm Snapdragon 845 @ 1.8 GHz:   2241
iPhone 6s Apple A9 @ 1.8 GHz:        2238
iPhone 7 Apple A10 Fusion @ 2.3 GHz: 3394
iPhone 8 Apple A11 Bionic @ 2.4 GHz: 4219
 
I did switch. From ATT to T-Mobile. The only difference I have noticed is that every time I pay the bill I have more money left in my pocket. Oh and their customer service is leaps and bounds better.. Oh and free MLB.tv through T-Mobile Tuesdays... You can keep your fancy more expensive network.

And you can keep your connectivity issues.
 
As much as I loathe Android, this is objectively true. On my 7+, the Intel modem is terrible, especially in poor signal areas when compared to my 6S+
 
Gotta tell you that when someone thinks those crazy graphs, and that bizarre labeling for x% faster, are the appropriate way to present data; well my first assumption is that this person clearly doesn't understand the first thing about numbers!
So how much do I trust that they actually managed to drive the statistics program properly?

I expect the values are (more or less) correct, but this reinforces my basic instinct:
- if what you have to say is worth saying, it will be just as worth saying in the context of standard data presentation techniques
- meaning if you refuse to use such techniques, you have an agenda that's different from "presenting the truth"
- and why should I waste my time bothering with people sho have such an agenda?
 
What's the point of achieving 30mbps instead of 21mbps on LTE when all that means is you reach your 5 GB data cap 30 minutes sooner?

I’m already finding drawbacks with current speeds. Accidentally click on a video and I nearly burn through my average daily data allotment by the time I can cancel.
 
You are using T-Mobile for crying out loud and you are complaining about connectivity? Upgrade to a real network and then come back and chat. You are blaming Apple for cheapening out but you picked a lower tier provider then whine about connectivity? Come on man!

Your comment shows you are not at all familiar with Deutsch Telekom, owner of T-Mobile. Deutsche Telekom AG is a German telecommunications company headquartered in Bonn and by revenue the largest telecommunications provider in Europe. Deutsche Telekom is the fifth-largest telephone operating company by total revenue ($76.8 B USD).

Deutsche Telekom on Forbes Lists
Please, before you make anymore rediculous comments please do some reading and study. Do not allow your ignorance become your stupidity. In fact, I am more impressed with stupidity than intellegence, stupidity does not have limits.

Now before you say “I am speaking about the USA”, I have been with T-Mobile in the USA for over four years, tried each of the other carriers. T-Mobile has by far been the best carrier for me. Yes, I am a iPhone user. Friends that were strong Verizon propents have all moved to T-Mobile. Of course YMMV in your location. Remember, carriers have locations where their coverage is excellent, and subpar.
 
Your experience of not losing connectivity in your neighborhood does not equate to nationwide coverage. I get it. You shop for deals and work with a tight budget. I know you want to cape for T-Mobile and all but facts are facts! T-Mobile is a lower tier provider and does not have the coverage of the big 2. Switch and you will notice the difference immediately. Final word!

This looks like what a social media dept would say. Trying to be hip but sounding like a total shill.
 
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This looks like what a social media dept would say. Trying to be hip but sounding like a total shill.

And you sound like you are on a tight budget as well. Hang in there!
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Your comment shows you are not at all familiar with Deutsch Telekom, owner of T-Mobile. Deutsche Telekom AG is a German telecommunications company headquartered in Bonn and by revenue the largest telecommunications provider in Europe. Deutsche Telekom is the fifth-largest telephone operating company by total revenue ($76.8 B USD).

Deutsche Telekom on Forbes Lists
Please, before you make anymore rediculous comments please do some reading and study. Do not allow your ignorance become your stupidity. In fact, I am more impressed with stupidity than intellegence, stupidity does not have limits.

Now before you say “I am speaking about the USA”, I have been with T-Mobile in the USA for over four years, tried each of the other carriers. T-Mobile has by far been the best carrier for me. Yes, I am a iPhone user. Friends that were strong Verizon propents have all moved to T-Mobile. Of course YMMV in your location. Remember, carriers have locations where their coverage is excellent, and subpar.


If you can't spell the word "ridiculous"; how can any of us take you seriously? Please take some time researching grammar and spelling before hitting the forums! Thanks!
 
I did switch. From ATT to T-Mobile. The only difference I have noticed is that every time I pay the bill I have more money left in my pocket. Oh and their customer service is leaps and bounds better.. Oh and free MLB.tv through T-Mobile Tuesdays... You can keep your fancy more expensive network.
going off topic - I've had great connectivity with t-mobile and more money in my pocket just like you. Cheers.
 
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I do not think it would be a good idea for anyone to take your anecdotal evidence over the millions of actual (and accurate) measurements done by Ookla.

You are missing the point, Ookla can't measure what's throttled by ATT/TMobile/Verizon. 3-4 year old hardware is capable of more, but not if you throttle it on the back end, then the results will come in as the throttled measure, not the actual capability. I used Ookla to test and that confirmed the 100+mbps speeds years ago.

Just like cable service, Comcast is capable of delivery 350MB, but if you pay for 25mb they throttle you - they don't rewire from the station to your house.... same thing there.

making a new chip run on throttled network won't tell you how the chip performs.
 
As much as I loathe Android, this is objectively true. On my 7+, the Intel modem is terrible, especially in poor signal areas when compared to my 6S+
I think the 7 series had generation 1 modems from Intel. Maybe things get better this year? I haven't had any problems myself and I travel.
 
Your experience of not losing connectivity in your neighborhood does not equate to nationwide coverage. I get it. You shop for deals and work with a tight budget. I know you want to cape for T-Mobile and all but facts are facts! T-Mobile is a lower tier provider and does not have the coverage of the big 2. Switch and you will notice the difference immediately. Final word!
“...Switch and you will notice the difference immediately...”. Well, I will disagree. In Napa, CA, AT&T in many areas has quite poor service, heck even standing outside texting is difficult. Out on Bodega Bay there are areas that AT&T cannot get a signal to, and Verizon is slightly better. The list goes on, how about driving down CA hwy 395, AT&T, Verizon, keep losing service; BTW hwy 395 is a major North South hwy.

You now understand your statement about switching does not hold water. My suggestion, always look at the areas one will be in 90+% of the time, purchase from the carrier that provides the better signal and service for that area you will be spending 90+% of your time in. That could be the Bubba Network or a name brand network, it is the signal strength and service in the area you desire that is important, not a network name.

Another example of your statement that does not hold water: When I had Verizon in the Atlanta Metro there were numerous locations that when I got off the freeway I lost all signal, switched to Sprint, same issue, again switching to AT&T same issue. Those were back when we were locked in for a couple of years to these carriers, so I am well familiar with each carrier. Two years ago on St. George Island, FL, cell coverage was terrible, I had Verizon, friends had AT&T, another family Sprint, we all had signal issues. Where is your switching comment about that. Driving out of Metro Atlanta, South through central GA, into FL there were tens of miles in both GA and FL we did not have service with these major carriers. You hang tight to your “Switch and you will notice the difference immediately” thought. Truth is location location location, which carrier provides the best signal to your preferred location; could be the Bubba Network, then get connected with it.
 
Being faster doesn't make up for the user experience of Android though

I'm no fanboy. I use both on a daily basis and you'd be surprised how much better the user experience is on Android these days. In many aspects it's better than iOS.

The biggest Android issue is not getting updates from your phone manufacturer and software bloat, but if you get a Pixel or an Android One device (third party devices updated by Google with stock Android) this problem is solved.
 
Yeah cause every day i wish my 4g speed was slightly faster...
Maybe not, but one step closer to using your mobile ISP for all Internet needs sounds good to me.

Now if only Apple would change their absurd wi-fi only update policy...
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I never saw the point of 5G where most of us are held back by ridiculous data cap. With a faster speed, we'll just use up our data faster and be charged for overage quicker. Hurray?
... and this
 
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You are using T-Mobile for crying out loud and you are complaining about connectivity? Upgrade to a real network and then come back and chat. You are blaming Apple for cheapening out but you picked a lower tier provider then whine about connectivity? Come on man!

Your reading comprehension and logic is flawed. Same carrier, same area but different devices where one (Galaxy S8) has LTE reception most of the time while the other (iPhone X) mostly has no reception. That's not a carrier issue but a device issue.

I recently dumped Verizon and moved to T-mobile because it has better throughput and reception in my major metropolitan area and the bonus is T-mobile isn't as greedy as Verizon. Win win win...
 
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Your reading comprehension and logic is flawed. Same carrier, same area but different devices where one (Galaxy S8) has LTE reception most of the time while the other (iPhone X) mostly has no reception. That's not a carrier issue but a device issue.

I recently dumped Verizon and moved to T-mobile because it has better throughput and reception in my major metropolitan area and the bonus is T-mobile isn't as greedy as Verizon. Win win win...

No need to attack another poster.

It is a carrier issue with T-Mobile and their lte band 71.

The next iPhone should have it.
 
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I never saw the point of 5G where most of us are held back by ridiculous data cap. With a faster speed, we'll just use up our data faster and be charged for overage quicker. Hurray?
Well that isn't how data works. You have access to the data faster. The data you are consuming isn't eating into your data cap any faster. A 10mb picture is still a 10mb picture regardless how fast you can access it.
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No need to attack another poster.

It is a carrier issue with T-Mobile and their lte band 71.

The next iPhone should have it.
To be fair that poster has been attacking all T-Mobile customers in this thread basically saying you're poor if you have T-Mobile.
 
to be honest, peak LTE doesn't matter. in most cases you're just fine with 10Mbps throughput. you iphone doesn't even let you to do OTA over cellular. app downloads are limited to a certain size over cellular. your icloud back-up mechanism also prefers wifi. hell, even photos is trying to save the data bundled into your plan, and upload your stuff whenever it is connected to wifi, and you must manually override each time if you want to use cellular for photos.
now all the big BW eaters, who would profit from having 10s of megabits are disabled, then what do you need the 100s of megabits you could get from carrier aggregation? for movies? like if it would matter to see a movie in 4k on a device that (almost) fits it the palm of your hand... FHD videos on netflix are just fine on 8-9Mbps. even 4K ones doesn't require more than 25Mbps.

so is the sole reason of having 50-100Mbps+ LTE performance just to show off to friends & family your speedtest results?

continuous connectivity matters, not peak speeds. not to mention that it will just suck your battery dry if you try to run it on full speed all the time. hell, theoretically you could dominate a whole nodeB with just a single handset, right? like it is anything like real-life stuff to be there on the covered area just by yourself...
 
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