Qualcomm Touts 'Superior Cellular Performance' of Android Phones With Snapdragon 845 Chips

[rdy0329]

Imagine all that speed, for facebook and instagram. The days where speed were important was when 3G was introduced. There’s a diminishing point of return when you approach about 5mbps on cellular because:

1. Data cap
2. 1080p HD is attained at that speed
3. Apps like FB, Snapchat and Instagram Stories loads without buffer
4. Chat apps need only a fraction of those speed anyway.

The only way to notice speed is to do an actual speed test or download an app over the app store which has restrictions on file size anyway.


People won’t care as long as data is delivered without any hiccup.

 

[SteveJUAE]

Faster better stronger Cellular Performance, yeah like nobody wants that in a mobile device

So Apple lost this bragging right, lets move on opposed to finding some other daft point to counter this

 

[Guy Clark]

Is that really a joke?

Seriously, I can't tell...

Poor people that are buying brand new expensive phones just to get the same exact speed.

@TimmeyCook
That is an extremely obnoxious and inaccurate comment. Depending on the brand of phone you use does not reflect your position in society nor is the iPhone the be all and end all. Just because it is an Apple product doesn't automatically mean it is superior.

You should immediately retract the word poor out of decency.

 

[ksec]

It's worth noting that the Galaxy S9 and S9+, along with other Android smartphones equipped with Snapdragon 845 processors and X20 LTE chips, like the LG ThinQ, Asus Zenfone 5Z, and OnePlus 6, are newer than Apple's flagship device, the iPhone X, and thus have newer technology.

Few things on top of my head, ( So number may not be precise )

It is also worth noting that all Snapdragon 845 Smartphone Unit combined very likely has less unit sales then iPhone X + iPhone 8 / 8 Plus. And in the best case scenario, iPhone X / 8 / 8 Plus may very well have double then all those unit combined. ( That is assuming Apple outdone themselves, Samsung continue to decline etc ... ) I doubt those Snapdragon 845 smartphones could reach combined 50M unit. With Samsung taking 40M unit already for S9 / S9+, and not all S9 / S9+ uses Snapdragon 845. I have no idea how much of those ~40M unit are Snapdragon 845. If it was split out 50/50 then Samsung would only have 20M Snapdragon 845 sold in its trailing 12 months.

So basically they are in a totally different league and market segment in terms of size and volume. And hence why even if Qualcomm had X20 Modem and Apple were still using Qualcomm modem only, the 2017 iPhones would still has X16 modem due to production constraint.

The iPhone antenna is a little behind in design. But rumours has it 2018 iPhone will see improvement.

Right now it isn't so much about the Modem design that is the bottleneck in speed. The network itself is severely constraint. And right now most major carriers, China Mobile ,Vodafone, AT&T, Three, Softbank, combined likely 40%+ of worldwide mobile carrier revenue, are all waiting for 5G equipment for their infrastructure upgrade.

 

[Xgm541]

I can't be bothered to read the article, but does it still get blown out of the water by the response "Yeah but Android needs 4 times the specs/resources, to perform 50% as well/efficiently as iOS" ?

I can't be bothered to tell you the answer.

 

[kemal]

And didn't intel can their cell modem division? Someone who likes Apple better buy Qualcomm fast.

 

[Princejb134]

Being faster doesn't make up for the user experience of Android though

the burn
i agree with this so much
i buy iphone for the UI and stability. Dont care about specs since all i do is text, browse internet, read books and listen to music

 

[deckard666]

Yeah cause every day i wish my 4g speed was slightly faster...

 

[StevieD100]

The question is...
Will the majority of people notice or even care?
I'm not that sure.

 

[GoodWheaties]

Imagine all that speed, for facebook and instagram. The days where speed were important was when 3G was introduced. There’s a diminishing point of return when you approach about 5mbps on cellular because:

1. Data cap
2. 1080p HD is attained at that speed
3. Apps like FB, Snapchat and Instagram Stories loads without buffer
4. Chat apps need only a fraction of those speed anyway.

The only way to notice speed is to do an actual speed test or download an app over the app store which has restrictions on file size anyway.


People won’t care as long as data is delivered without any hiccup.

Yeah as long as web pages load quickly and Factime looks decent, most people won’t care. Where I live I have to turn off the LTE anyway because it has such terrible performance compared to 4G. Literally will have 2 or 3 bars yet refuses to load anything. Gotta love AT&T.

 

[M.PaulCezanne]

Apple Users Tout Superior Software Experience, Security, Ecosystem and Infrastructure; Vote With Wallets

 

[Wags]

This is just for marketing. I am sure their data is skewed. Using favorable points and not true sampling. Highest lows would be more impressive than unattainable real world speeds.

 

[I7guy]

Apple Users Tout Superior Software Experience, Security, Ecosystem and Infrastructure; Vote With Wallets

I plan on it. Next gen iPhone here I come.

 

[mi7chy]

Even more important than throughput is the ability to stay connected. One of the reasons why most companies don't issue iPhone as company phones. Here's an example of iPhone owner who found out the hard way about his expensive personal iPhone X that doesn't even hold up to the older Galaxy S8.

Apple need to stop cheapening out and pay Qualcomm if they want the best and stop dumbing it down to Intel radio level.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/7xqtdg/iphone_slow_to_pick_up_service_on_the_nyc_subway

iPhone slow to pick up service on the NYC subway, my Galaxy S8 has it immediately at each stop

So I ride the subway to work. I have an iPhone X, and a Galaxy S8. The iPhone X at most gets 4G service, and mostly NO service for the entire ride in, including on the bridge.

The Galaxy S8 has LTE service instantly at each stop and a functional data connection even in weak spots.

Am I doing something wrong with the iPhone? It's so frustrating that its barely functional on T-Mobile.

 

[Black Magic]

Even more important than throughput is the ability to stay connected. One of the reasons why most companies don't issue iPhone as company phones. Here's an example of iPhone owner who found out the hard way about his expensive personal iPhone X that doesn't even hold up to the older Galaxy S8.

Apple need to stop cheapening out and pay Qualcomm if they want the best and stop dumbing it down to Intel radio level.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/7xqtdg/iphone_slow_to_pick_up_service_on_the_nyc_subway

You are using T-Mobile for crying out loud and you are complaining about connectivity? Upgrade to a real network and then come back and chat. You are blaming Apple for cheapening out but you picked a lower tier provider then whine about connectivity? Come on man!

 

[MadDawg2020]

Remember all those ad campaigns where Apple could only compete in the market by comparing itself to Samsung? Oh right - never happened, and yet somehow Apple is doing just fine...
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Even more important than throughput is the ability to stay connected. One of the reasons why most companies don't issue iPhone as company phones. Here's an example of iPhone owner who found out the hard way about his expensive personal iPhone X that doesn't even hold up to the older Galaxy S8.

Apple need to stop cheapening out and pay Qualcomm if they want the best and stop dumbing it down to Intel radio level.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/7xqtdg/iphone_slow_to_pick_up_service_on_the_nyc_subway

Think about the stupidity of your statement for a moment- You are whining because the super computer that fits in the palm of your hand sometimes takes a few seconds to connect while traveling underground! Seriously THINK about that. And then THINK about the fact the 25 years ago, the only way you would ever make a call on a subway would be if you were lucky enough to find a working pay phone on the platform and had enough change... and just THINK that 40 years ago having a phone that you could unplug from the wall was too advanced even for Science Fiction to do plausibly ! So just THINK and be amazed, grateful and humbled that you live in a world where you have such technology in the first place to make your life easier, instead of whining that your X.X version of your device sometimes needs a few seconds to catch up.

 

[Wide opeN]

You are using T-Mobile for crying out loud and you are complaining about connectivity? Upgrade to a real network and then come back and chat. You are blaming Apple for cheapening out but you picked a lower tier provider then whine about connectivity? Come on man!

And what is your definition of a "real" network

You sound like a paid shrill of the Big 2. I've had T-Mobile nearly 4 years and "rarely" have coverage issues.

Stop spewing NONSENSE... It makes you look desperate and uninformed.

 

[LuckyBubba]

Qualcomm, if my work required me to download 8 hours a day, I would be interested in taking a look at your product. Unless there is something I don't understand, whatever speeds I have been receiving seem to be good enough. What I really need help with is for my clients to speak faster and hang up sooner - now if you can find a way to eliminate the small talk from clients... then you would be on to something.

 

[Black Magic]

And what is your definition of a "real" network

You sound like a paid shrill of the Big 2. I've had T-Mobile nearly 4 years and "rarely" have coverage issues.

Stop spewing NONSENSE... It makes you look desperate and uninformed.

Your experience of not losing connectivity in your neighborhood does not equate to nationwide coverage. I get it. You shop for deals and work with a tight budget. I know you want to cape for T-Mobile and all but facts are facts! T-Mobile is a lower tier provider and does not have the coverage of the big 2. Switch and you will notice the difference immediately. Final word!

 

[barkomatic]

You are using T-Mobile for crying out loud and you are complaining about connectivity? Upgrade to a real network and then come back and chat. You are blaming Apple for cheapening out but you picked a lower tier provider then whine about connectivity? Come on man!

I’m on Verizon in NYC and have had a similar experience. When I had a Note 8 it was much quicker to reconnect than my X at subway stops and in some cases never lost a connection. The X is a great smartphone for many reasons but cellular connectivity isn’t one of them. Hopefully that will be improved with the new release.

 

[lowendlinux]

I’m on Verizon in NYC and have had a similar experience. When I had a Note 8 it was much quicker to reconnect than my X at subway stops and in some cases never lost a connection. The X is a great smartphone for many reasons but cellular connectivity isn’t one of them. Hopefully that will be improved with the new release.

He was trying to call someone cheap and criticize T-Mo it was nothing to do with phones

 

[AppleHater]

I never saw the point of 5G where most of us are held back by ridiculous data cap. With a faster speed, we'll just use up our data faster and be charged for overage quicker. Hurray?

 

[Larabee119]

And what is your definition of a "real" network

You sound like a paid shrill of the Big 2. I've had T-Mobile nearly 4 years and "rarely" have coverage issues.

Stop spewing NONSENSE... It makes you look desperate and uninformed.

T-Mobile pathetic speed of less than 1Mbps in my place and last time I checked the speed, I’m literally standing under Tmobile tower to make sure I got 5 bars signal. It’s the matter of congestion and most of the time Tmobile cannot deliver the theoretical speed as advertised in my surrounding zip codes. I’ve had Tmobile for 10 years and recently switch to Verizon. Much better experience.
Getting back to the topid at hand, I think it does not matter how fast your modem is because carrier will not be able to keep up with the speed anyway. This is pretty much a marketing move.

I never saw the point of 5G where most of us are held back by ridiculous data cap. With a faster speed, we'll just use up our data faster and be charged for overage quicker. Hurray?

Totally agree. Unlimited ... oh dear, phone carrier was like: I reject your reality and substitute my own.

 

[Col4bin]

Can't innovate, my ass!

 

[macduke]

Pro tip: Install an ad blocker and nearly every site loads instantly even on slower LTE. For now faster LTE is mainly good for buffering streaming video on mobile, and considering so many plans are still limited (even if they say unlimited) it's not like most people can do that a whole lot.