Agent OrangeZ
macrumors 68040
So... people who dropped $10,000 on an Apple Watch Edition, can expect to do so every year or 2 if they want the latest specs? A fool is easily parted with his money... even if he has a lot of money.
Quanta Reportedly Developing Next-Gen Apple Watch for 2016 Launch
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then quite clearly dear sir, you're not the target market for the Edition range.
navaira
macrumors 601
Only if Apple find a good way of notifying everyone in sight that this is the Watch New Edition. I suggest a holographic "2" hovering an inch over the screen all the time.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
The good news is... no other company has a Steve Jobs either.
So Apple should be "equal" to those other companies.
JustThinkin'
macrumors 6502
Actually I suspect most spent $12,000 or $15,000 (and $17,000 for the 38mm size). Take a closer look at the lineup and you'll see why.
bchreng
macrumors 65816
Apparently being foolish can make a person filthy stinking rich if they make that much money to just throw around on a new Apple Watch Edition every year.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
Truly new ideas? Are there any left? The first smartphone came out in 1992. But aren't you glad Apple got into that market?
BTW... Apple isn't sinking at all. What you call sinking... is actually the most successful company in the world.
JustThinkin'
macrumors 6502
Lots of smaller companies have a guy (or group of people) who function much like Steve. Under Tim, Apple is becoming a typical big company.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
But are those guys changing the world?
There may be other visionary entrepreneurs out there... but none are on the level of Steve Jobs.
JustThinkin'
macrumors 6502
You have to implement it well. It should work close to the way people want and imagine.
Apple's come closer than any other company to delivering the promise of technology. Their products almost work the way we dream of.
But now they're becoming just another technology company. With flashier marketing - perhaps even more than before. But with less technology and innovation behind it. They may as well be a traditional Japanese company - admirable small refinements (albeit more buggy recently) but no big leaps.
This model can't sustain the high profits Apple's become used to. People will pay for something new and better. But Apple's products are becoming less and less of either of those.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
Which "big leaps" are you expecting?
And is some other company delivering what you want?
I see countless examples of Apple executing well like you said in the first part of your comment. And I also see other companies struggling to compete when they introduce new features or whatnot.
macduke
macrumors G5
FaceTime isn't going to get me to upgrade my Apple Watch. Apple needs to address the following:
TL;DR: I hope the next Apple Watch is more energy efficient with a volume boost in the same case design. Increased power capacity could help drive components to run apps completely natively on the device, and perhaps a low-power 3g or 4g chipset that gets Apple SIM info handed off digitally from the iPhone when going out to exercise or whatever. Additional health sensors are icing on the cake.
- Slow app load times. They're still not that good under Watch OS 2. They'll probably need a bigger battery to run more tasks on the watch itself, perhaps along with more RAM or a faster Bluetooth connection to the iPhone.
- Increase speaker volume. It's difficult to hear people on the phone. For me, it's just barely too low. A 15-20% increase would be fine.
- Additional health sensors. Gen 1 was a nice first step, but people really need blood pressure monitoring, glucose tracking, etc so that they can keep on top of their health. Unfortunately I think that would require FDA approval, and if I remember right, Cook recently had comments against that.
- Week long battery life. Or at least work-week long. I'm not as annoyed with the battery as I thought it would be, but a massive increase in battery life would be enough for me to upgrade—or at least definitely push me to do so. I don't think this will happen any time soon. Just like iPhones over the years, battery life improvements have been tiny (aside from the Plus model). Apple puts more resources into speed increases and thinness. I hope they don't become obsessed with making the watch thin. My Apple Watch is a little thinner than my old mechanical watch. It doesn't need to be thinner.
TL;DR: I hope the next Apple Watch is more energy efficient with a volume boost in the same case design. Increased power capacity could help drive components to run apps completely natively on the device, and perhaps a low-power 3g or 4g chipset that gets Apple SIM info handed off digitally from the iPhone when going out to exercise or whatever. Additional health sensors are icing on the cake.
JustThinkin'
macrumors 6502
Some of them are. But they can't have as broad-reaching of an effect, as quickly and profitably as Apple can (could).But are those guys changing the world?
There may be other visionary entrepreneurs out there... but none are on the level of Steve Jobs.
JustThinkin'
macrumors 6502
You'll know the big leaps when you see them. I don't see them.
You never measure by what the other guys do. You measure yourself according to the ideal.
usarioclave
macrumors 65816
Have you actually used an apple watch? Holding your arm up for a phone call is work. Doing that for facetime would be unbelievably hard...although it would be sort of neat.
After thinking about this update in 2016. The apple watch will get an update. So lets dive in and find out why.
the S1 is built on old Fab tech it was outdated the day it shipped. This right there will net them performance with very little cost in the way of battery. This also will need the longer batter life when at rest.
I hear every one and there mother asking for GPS. This simply will not occur. They are already at the margins on this being a product that works. They will need to wait for the S3 which has been in development from the word go i guarantee you. The s2 will be more of the same but smaller and faster and thus better on the power. This will also allow them to do a turbo mode to load the app then head right back to sleep.
I do not think you will see a form factor change. The sensors will remain largely the same. The way they track HR is light based and this will not see a serious upgrade for another cycle. This comes also down to tool costs. They do not want to eat another set of tooling. They are comfortable eating tool costs every 24 months. This is also why you see the 6 sold and 6s sold after they release of the next version. They can keep using there old tooling. This is where the profit margins go way up. The 3rd year of the production run is vastly smaller volume but vastly higher margins.
The needing the iPhone as its partner will not go away for a few more product revisions. This is down to again the need for power.
There is just no way to fight fabrication and power constraints or the chemistry of batteries and the size we can make the gates on the die.
Apple is predictable now, This is because Tim is predictable. Tim is an operations man manager first and foremost. This is how you keep there ship running smooth. They can surprise with all new design every so often but in the gap years so to speak there is nothing they can do about how they have built there machine.
I will look for a used apple watch here in a few weeks. The volume is up on sales and thus the secondary market.
I do also think i can echo other who have said that apple watch will fall like a rock when the new one comes out. There is just not the universal utility and appeal. I know of many work places that exclusively buy used iPhones or iPads with apple care remaining for work. This helps keep the price up. The notion that they will buy watches is not even close. So we have a personal goods item that is worthless after about a year.
the S1 is built on old Fab tech it was outdated the day it shipped. This right there will net them performance with very little cost in the way of battery. This also will need the longer batter life when at rest.
I hear every one and there mother asking for GPS. This simply will not occur. They are already at the margins on this being a product that works. They will need to wait for the S3 which has been in development from the word go i guarantee you. The s2 will be more of the same but smaller and faster and thus better on the power. This will also allow them to do a turbo mode to load the app then head right back to sleep.
I do not think you will see a form factor change. The sensors will remain largely the same. The way they track HR is light based and this will not see a serious upgrade for another cycle. This comes also down to tool costs. They do not want to eat another set of tooling. They are comfortable eating tool costs every 24 months. This is also why you see the 6 sold and 6s sold after they release of the next version. They can keep using there old tooling. This is where the profit margins go way up. The 3rd year of the production run is vastly smaller volume but vastly higher margins.
The needing the iPhone as its partner will not go away for a few more product revisions. This is down to again the need for power.
There is just no way to fight fabrication and power constraints or the chemistry of batteries and the size we can make the gates on the die.
Apple is predictable now, This is because Tim is predictable. Tim is an operations man manager first and foremost. This is how you keep there ship running smooth. They can surprise with all new design every so often but in the gap years so to speak there is nothing they can do about how they have built there machine.
I will look for a used apple watch here in a few weeks. The volume is up on sales and thus the secondary market.
I do also think i can echo other who have said that apple watch will fall like a rock when the new one comes out. There is just not the universal utility and appeal. I know of many work places that exclusively buy used iPhones or iPads with apple care remaining for work. This helps keep the price up. The notion that they will buy watches is not even close. So we have a personal goods item that is worthless after about a year.
Michael Scrip
macrumors G3
Ok... so Apple created the iPhone in 2007 but has simply iterated on it for the last 8 years... and that's bad?
Apple makes phones, tablets, computers, watches, TV boxes, etc. They have to keep those things going.
I don't know what big leaps you are expecting.
If Apple isn't making big leaps... who is?
My question is... if NO ONE is making big leaps... then how can you punish Apple for not making any big leaps either?
bladerunner2000
Suspended
And why do you think that is?
iSee
macrumors 68040
This is hilarious... I can't quite figure out if you're making fun of ol' stick-in-the-muds or what, but it's hilarious either way!
wlossw
macrumors 65816
be careful what you wish for... look at the new mac mini...
Michaelgtrusa
macrumors 604
Soon no more designed in California.
You trust that technology in a smart watch will last for 30 years? Who would want 30 year old technology
Are you still playing on your Nintendo?
Still using dial up Internet?
Are you still playing on your Nintendo?
Still using dial up Internet?
ghost187
macrumors 6502a
While I think the Apple Watch 2 will come out next year, I don't think it will be updated every year. As a person who wears Apple Watch everyday, here is the list of features I want in the future generations:
1.) Multi day battery life, so far I get 1 full day battery no matter what, but I don't want to take off my watch every night, because I want to use it as a silent alarm.
2.) Built in LTE. I'm not suggesting the watch should replace the iPhone, but it should be much less dependent.
3.) Bigger screen/less bezel. They have the technology to make OLED displays with rounded corners, yet the Apple Watch like most Apple products, is one of the worst offenders of extreme bezel.
4.) More health sensors. For example a thermometer! I can't believe no one is doing this. This is the simplest health sensor every smart watch should have.
5.) Anti reflective coating on the sapphire glass that's laminated onto the screen with zero gap.
I believe everything up there is possible, but not probable all at once. BTW, I didn't bother to list the obvious stuff like faster S2 chip, more storage, thinner design, more ram etc...
1.) Multi day battery life, so far I get 1 full day battery no matter what, but I don't want to take off my watch every night, because I want to use it as a silent alarm.
2.) Built in LTE. I'm not suggesting the watch should replace the iPhone, but it should be much less dependent.
3.) Bigger screen/less bezel. They have the technology to make OLED displays with rounded corners, yet the Apple Watch like most Apple products, is one of the worst offenders of extreme bezel.
4.) More health sensors. For example a thermometer! I can't believe no one is doing this. This is the simplest health sensor every smart watch should have.
5.) Anti reflective coating on the sapphire glass that's laminated onto the screen with zero gap.
I believe everything up there is possible, but not probable all at once. BTW, I didn't bother to list the obvious stuff like faster S2 chip, more storage, thinner design, more ram etc...