Quanta Reportedly Developing Next-Gen Apple Watch for 2016 Launch

Why would you laugh at the first gen owners. I will just walk in to an Apple store and replace my first gen with a second gen without giving it a thought. Its called disposable income.
So... people who dropped $10,000 on an Apple Watch Edition, can expect to do so every year or 2 if they want the latest specs? A fool is easily parted with his money... even if he has a lot of money.
 
So... people who dropped $10,000 on an Apple Watch Edition, can expect to do so every year or 2 if they want the latest specs? A fool is easily parted with his money... even if he has a lot of money.

then quite clearly dear sir, you're not the target market for the Edition range.
 
So... people who dropped $10,000 on an Apple Watch Edition, can expect to do so every year or 2 if they want the latest specs? A fool is easily parted with his money... even if he has a lot of money.
Only if Apple find a good way of notifying everyone in sight that this is the Watch New Edition. I suggest a holographic "2" hovering an inch over the screen all the time.
 
I seem to remember that there was a good deal of skepticism about Jobs after his return. Even after the iPod came out he still had plenty of naysayers. Hell, even when the iPhone was announced there was negative talk about his performance in some quarters. He didn't become the icon we know today (well known by people outside of Mac rumor sites) until it became obvious that the iPhone was a game changer. There's no way anyone at Apple, including Tim can duplicate what he did. Apple can't come from behind in an unexpected fashion again. An Apple Car, for example, will be expected to change the auto industry, should they come out with one.

The good news is... no other company has a Steve Jobs either.

So Apple should be "equal" to those other companies.
 
So... people who dropped $10,000 on an Apple Watch Edition, can expect to do so every year or 2 if they want the latest specs? A fool is easily parted with his money... even if he has a lot of money.
Actually I suspect most spent $12,000 or $15,000 (and $17,000 for the 38mm size). Take a closer look at the lineup and you'll see why.
 
So... people who dropped $10,000 on an Apple Watch Edition, can expect to do so every year or 2 if they want the latest specs? A fool is easily parted with his money... even if he has a lot of money.

Apparently being foolish can make a person filthy stinking rich if they make that much money to just throw around on a new Apple Watch Edition every year. :eek:
 
Apple is slowly sinking because they have no truly new ideas in the pipeline.

Truly new ideas? Are there any left? The first smartphone came out in 1992. But aren't you glad Apple got into that market?

BTW... Apple isn't sinking at all. What you call sinking... is actually the most successful company in the world.
 
So this would be a history repeats itself. Based on the first generation of iPhone and iPad. The next generation iWatch will be so much better, I hope. This is the one and only reason I didn't bought one yet.
 
Truly new ideas? Are there any left? The first smartphone came out in 1992. But aren't you glad Apple got into that market?

BTW... Apple isn't sinking at all. What you call sinking... is actually the most successful company in the world.
You have to implement it well. It should work close to the way people want and imagine.

Apple's come closer than any other company to delivering the promise of technology. Their products almost work the way we dream of.

But now they're becoming just another technology company. With flashier marketing - perhaps even more than before. But with less technology and innovation behind it. They may as well be a traditional Japanese company - admirable small refinements (albeit more buggy recently) but no big leaps.

This model can't sustain the high profits Apple's become used to. People will pay for something new and better. But Apple's products are becoming less and less of either of those.
 
You have to implement it well. It should work close to the way people want and imagine.

Apple's come closer than any other company to delivering the promise of technology. Their products almost work the way we dream of.

But now they're becoming just another technology company. With flashier marketing - perhaps even more than before. But with less technology and innovation behind it. They may as well be a traditional Japanese company - admirable small refinements (albeit more buggy recently) but no big leaps.

This model can't sustain the high profits Apple's become used to. People will pay for something new and better. But Apple's products are becoming less and less of either of those.

Which "big leaps" are you expecting?

And is some other company delivering what you want?

I see countless examples of Apple executing well like you said in the first part of your comment. And I also see other companies struggling to compete when they introduce new features or whatnot.
 
FaceTime isn't going to get me to upgrade my Apple Watch. Apple needs to address the following:
  • Slow app load times. They're still not that good under Watch OS 2. They'll probably need a bigger battery to run more tasks on the watch itself, perhaps along with more RAM or a faster Bluetooth connection to the iPhone.
  • Increase speaker volume. It's difficult to hear people on the phone. For me, it's just barely too low. A 15-20% increase would be fine.
  • Additional health sensors. Gen 1 was a nice first step, but people really need blood pressure monitoring, glucose tracking, etc so that they can keep on top of their health. Unfortunately I think that would require FDA approval, and if I remember right, Cook recently had comments against that.
  • Week long battery life. Or at least work-week long. I'm not as annoyed with the battery as I thought it would be, but a massive increase in battery life would be enough for me to upgrade—or at least definitely push me to do so. I don't think this will happen any time soon. Just like iPhones over the years, battery life improvements have been tiny (aside from the Plus model). Apple puts more resources into speed increases and thinness. I hope they don't become obsessed with making the watch thin. My Apple Watch is a little thinner than my old mechanical watch. It doesn't need to be thinner.
As for making the watch more independent of the iPhone—I've got an idea: the Apple Sim. Could the Apple Watch be put into a mode that would allow the iPhone to handoff the sim card digitally to the Watch, powering up a cellular modem when going out to exercise, etc? I wonder how power efficient you could make a 3g or slow 4g chip using the latest chip fab process? Even just a few Mbits should be enough to easily load the type of content consumed on the Watch. But apps need to be made more independent before that can happen.

TL;DR: I hope the next Apple Watch is more energy efficient with a volume boost in the same case design. Increased power capacity could help drive components to run apps completely natively on the device, and perhaps a low-power 3g or 4g chipset that gets Apple SIM info handed off digitally from the iPhone when going out to exercise or whatever. Additional health sensors are icing on the cake.
 
Which "big leaps" are you expecting?

And is some other company delivering what you want?

I see countless examples of Apple executing well like you said in the first part of your comment. And I also see other companies struggling to compete when they introduce new features or whatnot.
You'll know the big leaps when you see them. I don't see them.

You never measure by what the other guys do. You measure yourself according to the ideal.
 
After thinking about this update in 2016. The apple watch will get an update. So lets dive in and find out why.

the S1 is built on old Fab tech it was outdated the day it shipped. This right there will net them performance with very little cost in the way of battery. This also will need the longer batter life when at rest.

I hear every one and there mother asking for GPS. This simply will not occur. They are already at the margins on this being a product that works. They will need to wait for the S3 which has been in development from the word go i guarantee you. The s2 will be more of the same but smaller and faster and thus better on the power. This will also allow them to do a turbo mode to load the app then head right back to sleep.

I do not think you will see a form factor change. The sensors will remain largely the same. The way they track HR is light based and this will not see a serious upgrade for another cycle. This comes also down to tool costs. They do not want to eat another set of tooling. They are comfortable eating tool costs every 24 months. This is also why you see the 6 sold and 6s sold after they release of the next version. They can keep using there old tooling. This is where the profit margins go way up. The 3rd year of the production run is vastly smaller volume but vastly higher margins.

The needing the iPhone as its partner will not go away for a few more product revisions. This is down to again the need for power.

There is just no way to fight fabrication and power constraints or the chemistry of batteries and the size we can make the gates on the die.

Apple is predictable now, This is because Tim is predictable. Tim is an operations man manager first and foremost. This is how you keep there ship running smooth. They can surprise with all new design every so often but in the gap years so to speak there is nothing they can do about how they have built there machine.

I will look for a used apple watch here in a few weeks. The volume is up on sales and thus the secondary market.

I do also think i can echo other who have said that apple watch will fall like a rock when the new one comes out. There is just not the universal utility and appeal. I know of many work places that exclusively buy used iPhones or iPads with apple care remaining for work. This helps keep the price up. The notion that they will buy watches is not even close. So we have a personal goods item that is worthless after about a year.
 
You'll know the big leaps when you see them. I don't see them.

You never measure by what the other guys do. You measure yourself according to the ideal.

Ok... so Apple created the iPhone in 2007 but has simply iterated on it for the last 8 years... and that's bad?

Apple makes phones, tablets, computers, watches, TV boxes, etc. They have to keep those things going.

I don't know what big leaps you are expecting.

If Apple isn't making big leaps... who is?

My question is... if NO ONE is making big leaps... then how can you punish Apple for not making any big leaps either?
 
How many people are going to buy a new watch every year?

As almost everyone who wants an Apple Watch has bought one by now, I question the demand for a new one next year.

My current watch has lasted me for about 30 years and is still going strong. I trust that current Apple Watches will last their owners as long.

This is hilarious... I can't quite figure out if you're making fun of ol' stick-in-the-muds or what, but it's hilarious either way!
 
I think i read TSMC is preparing a 14nm process variant for these kind of small chips ("LPP"). If that is used for the S2 it should be much faster and more efficient.
 
You trust that technology in a smart watch will last for 30 years? Who would want 30 year old technology

Are you still playing on your Nintendo?
Still using dial up Internet?




How many people are going to buy a new watch every year?

As almost everyone who wants an Apple Watch has bought one by now, I question the demand for a new one next year.

My current watch has lasted me for about 30 years and is still going strong. I trust that current Apple Watches will last their owners as long.
 
While I think the Apple Watch 2 will come out next year, I don't think it will be updated every year. As a person who wears Apple Watch everyday, here is the list of features I want in the future generations:

1.) Multi day battery life, so far I get 1 full day battery no matter what, but I don't want to take off my watch every night, because I want to use it as a silent alarm.

2.) Built in LTE. I'm not suggesting the watch should replace the iPhone, but it should be much less dependent.

3.) Bigger screen/less bezel. They have the technology to make OLED displays with rounded corners, yet the Apple Watch like most Apple products, is one of the worst offenders of extreme bezel.

4.) More health sensors. For example a thermometer! I can't believe no one is doing this. This is the simplest health sensor every smart watch should have.

5.) Anti reflective coating on the sapphire glass that's laminated onto the screen with zero gap.

I believe everything up there is possible, but not probable all at once. BTW, I didn't bother to list the obvious stuff like faster S2 chip, more storage, thinner design, more ram etc...
 
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