Quanta Reportedly Developing Next-Gen Apple Watch for 2016 Launch

Michael Scrip said:
Ok... so Apple created the iPhone in 2007 but has simply iterated on it for the last 8 years... and that's bad?

Apple makes phones, tablets, computers, watches, TV boxes, etc. They have to keep those things going.

I don't know what big leaps you are expecting.

If Apple isn't making big leaps... who is?

My question is... if NO ONE is making big leaps... then how can you punish Apple for not making any big leaps either?
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Again - don't measure yourself by the competition.
 
TMRJIJ said:
You mean how the first gen iPad should have had a back camera?
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I don't know about all that...
I was definitely in the group that couldn't imagine people willing enough to look like idiots, that they'd use a back camera on a tablet as large as the original iPad.
(obviously, I was proven wrong)
Even today... while I absolutely LOVE the front iPad camera for FaceTime; I'd go without the rear camera in an instant!
 
bladerunner2000 said:
I wish Apple would put this much focus into their computers.
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Eh, they've been steadily progressing over the years, are still overpriced and not completely and totally cutting edge. I don't see much of a difference in innovation versus 5-10 years ago back when they were getting more attention.
 
Benjamin Frost said:
How many people are going to buy a new watch every year?

As almost everyone who wants an Apple Watch has bought one by now, I question the demand for a new one next year.

My current watch has lasted me for about 30 years and is still going strong. I trust that current Apple Watches will last their owners as long.
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tisk tisk tisk... Have you not heard about software updates, app compatibility, etc?
Apple will make sure these timepieces will make you tell the time, but also what year it is by hitting the "oh, this iOS just made my device slow to a crawl, guess n years passed again" (we don't know how Apple calculated Apple Watch's lifecycle, but if you're the kind of Apple user who loves the perfection part, you eventually will see a Watch OS update you'll find hard to bear. Quote me on that. If the hardware doesn't break, the software will have to.)

Glassed Silver:mac
 
gugy said:
For me better be waterproof so I can use to track my swimming. If not I'll pass. To be honest, I don't think I even use it besides for working out.
I am not really that much into the watch. What I would love is sort of thin band to track activities like the Nike Fuel band but unfortunately Apple won't go that route.
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The watch is water proof. People have taken them quit deep under water with no issues.
 
Precision Gem said:
The watch is water proof. People have taken them quit deep under water with no issues.
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As long as the warranty only mentions water-resistent, you have zero rights to claim a repair under warranty conditions (=free of charge)

So, you may take the plunge, but it's unsupported territory, not sure how I'd feel about that on a device that pricey.

Glassed Silver:mac

(pun definitely intended, because puns rock!)
 
Rafterman said:
A Facetime camera should have been on the first release.
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Nope. In fact that's one of the few things they could add to the watch now to set it apart from the 1st gen. In my opinion, they tried too hard to make the first watch do everything.

ChrisCW11 said:
Video calls on a watch is going to be a terrible user experience. Just try holding your wrist up in front of your face for 15 minutes and ask me if this is a feature you want to use numerous times a day, every day. Also as most "selfie" photo takers are all too aware of, taking a picture by placing a camera below your chin usually results in a horrible picture which is why most duck-lipped photos are taken holding the camera above the face. How many people are going to make one FaceTime call on their new watch and realize how horrible they look when they try to look down at their wrist with their double chins bulging out of their turtlenecks. Does this App make me look fat? FaceTime on an Apple Watch will.

If FaceTime is true, Apple is continuing to throw darts against a wall of providing umpteen half-assed features hoping to find something that will make the masses actually want to buy a smartwatch, but I don't think ANYBODY actually wants video conferencing on a watch. While most people are still thinking Dick Tracy style video/voice call features on a watch are going to make them want one and ditch their phones, common sense dictates that usually these concepts work well on a movie soundstage and rarely in real life. Personally I would rather not be in a reality where everyone is screaming into their wrists held perpendicular to their face.
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usarioclave said:
Have you actually used an apple watch? Holding your arm up for a phone call is work. Doing that for facetime would be unbelievably hard...although it would be sort of neat.
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The whole point is convenience. Just like you wouldn't yammer on with a phone call on your watch, instead it's about the convenience of being able to take the call, rather than dig your phone out of your pocket, or go find it somewhere in your house. Maybe it's a call you were waiting on for a piece of information, or it turns into a longer conversation, which allows you to take the call while you looking for your phone to hand-off to it. FaceTime will be exactly the same way ... you conveniently take the call, and start the conversation as you find your iPhone to hand-off to it, that or you keep it short. I don't understand this argument at all.

But FaceTime isn't even the main reason they will put a camera on the watch -- they will do it for Selfies. Apple knows the importance of the selfie, and has gone out of their way to incorporate it in to their mobile devices. The 6S doesn't turn the whole display into a flash for nothing.

Precision Gem said:
The watch is water proof. People have taken them quit deep under water with no issues.
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The fact is, this watch is not being manufactured to a standard that can guarantee any significant water resistance. I would never trust my life to a device that's assembled with glue, and mass produced in china such that gaskets have been popping out of the digital crowns -- so I would never use it as a dive watch. There's no way to test it, or maintenance it reliably. Apple even says there's no way to test for water resistance after the battery has been replaced, right on their website. Also, many wearers have been subjecting it to aggressive water environments, with mixed results,with the water seals failing over time. This is the natural condition for an IPX8 water resistant watch, the seals have to be regularly serviced, and there's no means to do so with the Watch. Anyone planning on subjecting the watch to excessive water exposure, should invest in a waterproof case, or be prepared for failure. I would recommend Apple Care+ for those opting to throw caution to the wind, and Apple will most likely replace it once.
 
1. They probably will come out with one in june/july

2. Most likely it will use similar bands, and not look much different at all other then possibly thinner and have a gps built in. As well as an improved processor.

3. The watch 2 will sell very well. There are many people who (don't buy first gen). Well its great for them but with the watch I don't see that being the same issue as other devices.

4. It will not be waterproof. The watch is already very resistant to water, but capacitive screens do not work when wet. That is the biggest issue with that.

5. It will NEVER be completely independent of your iphone. People do not understand that if your phone was not with you then you would need to pay your carrier for another device on your phone bill.

6. I think most improvements can be made via software. The interface needs tweaking and should be more customizable for the user. Example: More watch faces that you can build yourself (custom), Icons should have folders or more options for placement, notifications are to obtrusive at times and seems like old ios with in your face notifications, Fitness aspect needs a better app on the phone and watch to compete better with fitbits system.

I love my watch, and use it everyday. There are things that NEED to be fixed, but I still think that it is worth the cost for it now. The next version will be better but for the first gen purchasers I think it will be 50/50 decision to upgrade.
 
JustThinkin' said:
Again - don't measure yourself by the competition.
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Don't worry... Apple doesn't measure themselves by the competition. They have always marched to the beat of their own drum.

But I'm asking you... since you don't think Apple is making big leaps anymore... what do YOU want them to do?
 
In many ways, the Apple Watch is my most important electronic device. That little bit of extra motivation to get out and exercise has probably increased my quality of life more than perhaps even my MacBook Pro.

People who don't need that motivation or don't have any use for being healthy(!) probably have no use for this device. For me though, I absolutely think my purchase (Sport, Space Grey, 38mm) was worth it. All I want now is a thinner device (weight is not an issue, though obviously thinner usually means lighter too) with GPS.

"Waterproof" for swimming is also part of my pipedream, but I accept that maybe this is a little way away yet.
 
Michael Scrip said:
The good news is... no other company has a Steve Jobs either.

So Apple should be "equal" to those other companies.
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You missed the point: it's unreasonable to expect Tim Cook, or anyone else at Apple, to stun the world with something as revolutionary as the original iPhone was. We now expect every announcement to be about something revolutionary, and we're disappointed when it's not.
 
iCloudStrife said:
In many ways, the Apple Watch is my most important electronic device. That little bit of extra motivation to get out and exercise has probably increased my quality of life more than perhaps even my MacBook Pro.

People who don't need that motivation or don't have any use for being healthy(!) probably have no use for this device. For me though, I absolutely think my purchase (Sport, Space Grey, 38mm) was worth it. All I want now is a thinner device (weight is not an issue, though obviously thinner usually means lighter too) with GPS.

"Waterproof" for swimming is also part of my pipedream, but I accept that maybe this is a little way away yet.
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Well, I've been wearing my Apple Watch in the shower everyday since launch, and I've seen videos of people diving with it. Even the iPhone is somewhat water resistant now. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they further improve the watch in that regard. They just won't announce it or guarantee it though for obvious reasons.
 
dannys1 said:
I say no chance, will be two yearly cycles or at very most every 18 months as the iPad Air will go to, more in line with Macs and less so with iPhones.
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Of course there will be yearly cycles. Apple knows people will buy it. Apple loves money.
 
<sarcasm>Well..... probably the 2nd gen apple watch won't be introduced till late 2016 like all refreshed or new products. Why? It leaves the Apple shareholders languishing over depressed stock value 9+ months out of the year. </sarcasm>
 
cwt1nospam said:
You missed the point: it's unreasonable to expect Tim Cook, or anyone else at Apple, to stun the world with something as revolutionary as the original iPhone was. We now expect every announcement to be about something revolutionary, and we're disappointed when it's not.
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So it's our expectations that are too high then? Whose fault is that? :D

My point was... Apple doesn't have their "icon" anymore... but no one else does either.
 
ChrisCW11 said:
A million useless features is what Apple Watch is turning out to be, FaceTime will be one million and one. It's not Apple's fault really, I just think most consumers don't want smartwatches in general because there is no real purpose to a jack of all trades device on your wrist that only does the kind of things well that a $100 health tracker already does.
I don't think tacking on more features and services on the watch is going to suddenly make consumers want something they have already decided in droves to avoid.
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I completely agree. I think the key to making the watch successful is focusing on health sensors or a spectrometer like SCiO. If I had something that added new capabilities to my life, then I would be interested.
 
I told ya... everyone will be watching tele on their watch.. u start with a face-time only camera, then branch it from there..

Its the reason Apple is also doing their own Television service .. :D i reckon

Start off with what's simpler first.. Launch tv service for Apple TV, then bring it to others including wearable's.

By 2020 or sooner we could be all laughing out *** off with family guy.
 
Carlanga said:
I guess you own one :p
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I do, but it makes no difference to me anyway, selling old buying new costs peanuts - it's easy for me to update every year, every six months, every 2 years. I just don't think this will be a yearly project, firstly I don't think the tech will move fast enough and secondly I don't know if they'll be able to update all the SKU's so quickly AND keep such high supply chains for them. iPhone has to be priority, everything else is secondary in supply chain after that.
 
Mac 128 said:
The fact is, this watch is not being manufactured to a standard that can guarantee any significant water resistance. I would never trust my life to a device that's assembled with glue, and mass produced in china such that gaskets have been popping out of the digital crowns -- so I would never use it as a dive watch. There's no way to test it, or maintenance it reliably. Apple even says there's no way to test for water resistance after the battery has been replaced, right on their website. Also, many wearers have been subjecting it to aggressive water environments, with mixed results,with the water seals failing over time. This is the natural condition for an IPX8 water resistant watch, the seals have to be regularly serviced, and there's no means to do so with the Watch. Anyone planning on subjecting the watch to excessive water exposure, should invest in a waterproof case, or be prepared for failure. I would recommend Apple Care+ for those opting to throw caution to the wind, and Apple will most likely replace it once.
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I wouldn't think anyone would use the watch as a "dive watch". Swimming as the OP originally mentioned is quite different than a dive a watch. A dive watch is a very specialized watch. I don't think taking a swim with a watch would really qualify for "trust my life" to it.

I watch gets wet every day, no issues. I treat it no different than any other "NON DIVE" watch I own.
 
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