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Re: Re: Hmm, Apple announced before Quark

Originally posted by Moxiemike
has anyone seen screenshots? the measurements palette is FRIGGIN HUGE

Uck. And teh rest of the palettes seem to have put on some weight too. Looks like Ol' Quark is sagging, showing some age, and eating too many donuts. ;)
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I think that's just the Aqua UI guidelines being applied.. the palettes look really good to me, well designed.

Welcome to OS X. ;-)
 
Re: Re: Re: great news

Originally posted by job
Ah, touche.

are most pro audio apps still OS9 only?
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Dude- I have teh same camera and same stupid problem- I wonder if they're ever going to fix the damn thing!

Crappy camera though- but hey- I want it to work in X!
 
Re: Re: Re: Hmm, Apple announced before Quark

Originally posted by canadianmacguy
I think that's just the Aqua UI guidelines being applied.. the palettes look really good to me, well designed.

Welcome to OS X. ;-)
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I like how they picked now asthe time to follow apple interface guidelines. haha
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Hmm. Didn't see that option in the beta. Is it marked on their website? Show me a link, baby
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Drag from the bottom right corner. Same as always. It's in the beta and every version of Quark ever made.

Quark on the left. ID2 on the right.
 

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Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Drag from the bottom right corner. Same as always. It's in the beta and every version of Quark ever made.

Quark on the left. ID2 on the right.
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Well, if you're gonna do that with Quark, do it with ID2 as well.
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Well, if you're gonna do that with Quark, do it with ID2 as well.
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Duh! That's as narrow as they go, regardless if you have one, two or three tabs. The only tab that goes narrower is the "Pages" one (and I showed that narrow!) :cool:

I'm sure it's all just a matter of preference, but regardless of that Adobe has more than a little room for cleaning up their work area! - j
 
note as well how many palettes you have available with ID. So many controls, available thru keyboard and thru the menus.

You have access to all your color options in one group, all your text in another, all your styles and essential production elements such as trap info and whatnot.

But the thing is, I prefer having stuff in the tabbed palette system. If i were to have all of the stuff opened in Quark and I have it in ID.... Yipes.

I like options. And ID gives it to me big time, and takes up less real estate than quark. It's also, and i never thought i'd be able to say this, a PROVEN piece of software relative to its platform. Quark is behind and they need to do something to get me to buy into their system.

i've used it extensively and am probably more efficient at it then 95% of the deisgners out there.

I'm also a CREATIVE, not a production guy, and ID lets me create without letting me lose sight of my production needs.

Until Quark gives me a reason to spend 900 bux on Xpress, i'll just go out and buy another Adobe Design Collection or MX studio and be all the happier. :D
 
Bizarre dream!

Hey everyone! I just had the strangest dream. Okay, I know it sounds unlikely, but hear me out. I dreamed that I went to the Apple site and there on the front page....

Oh nevermind. It couldn't possibly have been real.
 
Re: Quark Xpress sur la gueule!

Originally posted by Laurent
It's been 2 years... I can't say that I am a proud user of Adobe InDesign since the applications isn't as sharp as Quark. I can't wait to try this new version! (Which might offer new features...?)
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Doesn't offer a whole lot in the way of new features. Read the Macworld Article.

I think it's a little naive to think that just because XPress 6 is out that everyone will upgrade. A lot of houses are still running 4.x.

Also, a large number of houses stuck with quark rather than move to ID because they are using some other custom software in conjunction with XPress that would need some level of work (from a tweak to a full port, depending on the software) to run on OS X, or even just version 5.
 
Re: Re: Quark Xpress sur la gueule!

Originally posted by andyduncan
Doesn't offer a whole lot in the way of new features. Read the Macworld Article.

I think it's a little naive to think that just because XPress 6 is out that everyone will upgrade. A lot of houses are still running 4.x.

Also, a large number of houses stuck with quark rather than move to ID because they are using some other custom software in conjunction with XPress that would need some level of work (from a tweak to a full port, depending on the software) to run on OS X, or even just version 5.
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plus, .0 releases from Quark are pretty much public betas. And they charge.... SO MUCH.

But aside... I remember 4.0 and the bugs. God. it took until 4.1 to clear everything up, and that was like, 2 years later!
 
Still running QX 4.11!

Which is as stable as quark xpress has ever been. Haven't tried QX 5.

I hope quark is quick with the bug patches.
 
Originally posted by macphisto
Check out Apple's home page. But my question is why? If you have ever used InDesign 2.0, why on earth would you go back to quark? And if you are using quark, why are you not using InDesign? InDesign is a better program by far.

What does everyone else think?
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I think I have no choice but to use what bonehead executives tell me I can use. If we get new macs maybe now the IT department will have no choice but to move to OS X. I cry everytime they take a brand new G4 and downgrade it to 8.1-8.5:( I hate using 8.1 at work. It sucks. Now maybe I have a shot at using OS X at work.:) What am I talking about - we'll never see new macs - they'll probably downgrade us to C64!!!!!
 
UI

It seems to me that the Aqua UI is not well suited to applications like Quark, InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop. I'd like to see an application like one of those reworked to use a UI more reminiscent of Final Cut Pro or Logic. No more floating palettes; give us paned full-screen interfaces that arrange tools and controls in logical ways.

Honestly, I think the floating palette is the worst thing that ever happened to the graphical user interface.

Well, with the possible exception of the floating toolbar. Ugh.
 
Originally posted by mohaukachi
took them damn well long enough! i wonder if it will work on panther when it comes out?
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Knowing Quark, it will probably not work on 10.3, but they'll fix that just as 10.4 comes out... and it won't work on that. ;)
 
10 years

I've been using quark for 10 years. It works. Why switch to ID?
Because it works well with photoshop and illustrator?
I can't see it being THAT much better.
Maybe ignorance is bliss in this case.

But soon I'll be using QX 6.0! and OS X at work! woohoo.
 
Quark, Shmork

Oh the delicious irony; today, our company (85 seat textbook publishing company) began training staff on our new page layout software, InDesign. I'm sitting there in the training lab, my head spinning with all of I.D.'s remarkable new features, its friendliness, thoughtfullness, stability, intuitiveness, and consistency with the other Adobe apps, and during a break I fire up Safari and find that Quark is finally being updated, about 2 years too late. And I realize how wonderful it is for Adobe to have so effectively broken Quark's strangle-hold on the industry. It's going to be fun to watch Quark play catch-up now, but I think Quark's delay, and Adobe's know-how, ensure that Quark will be relegated to relatively simple business tasks, as PageMaker was when Quark first appeared. More irony. I never thought I'd ever look at Apple's home page, (which now bears the Quark announcement) and think, "who cares?":rolleyes:
 
hehe

Text books... sounds reeeeeel fun.

We'll be upgraded for $299 a pop and won't need training.
 
to bad my print shop STILL refuses to move to osX. Our computer guy (bleech) has them convinced that our image setter won't play well with it. I guess I'll have to wait until Illustrator and Photoshop just won't work in 9 until they decide it's time.
 
TouchŽ

We just have way too many legacy files to switch to ID.

And in years that ID has been out we've never even seen
an ID file come to us from a client or another agency.

Quark is not going the way of Pagemaker.
 
I think its really going to a 2 party system in the print world.

All printers will have both programs, but designers will have the choice of which to use. Personally I think Indesign is a little less intuitive than Quark, but it makes up for it in features. Quark doesn't have the features, but it makes up for it in its ease of use.
 
Re: Touch?

Originally posted by chubakka
We just have way too many legacy files to switch to ID.

And in years that ID has been out we've never even seen
an ID file come to us from a client or another agency.

Quark is not going the way of Pagemaker.
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Those are, of course, the exact same things we said about PageMaker back in the day. Too many legacy files, too much demand in the market.

Boy, that sure changed in a hurry, didn't it?

Quark gave Adobe a two-year window of opportunity. Adobe has InDesign, a product that, as far as I know, can do everything Quark can do. As a result, we now have people out there--not a few of them, either--doing new work in InDesign instead of Quark. If, and this is a big if, the new work continues to be done in InDesign and customers keep Quark around, if at all, only to deal with legacy files, then in five years we'll be talking about how some other product is "not going the way of Quark."
 
Why does there only have to be one?

It's all a matter of preference. There will be Quark studios and there will be ID studios. And the printers will just have to deal with it. I think some just fail to see the importance of Quark now being native on OS X. This really was something many shops were waiting for to make the switch. It is a big deal.
 
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