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Quick Teardowns Offer First Look Inside 14 and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models

Freeangel1 said:
Not much to repair.
Maybe:
The Battery
The Fans
Main Logic board.
Screen.

Thats it. or throw it away.

I'll wait for the Mac mini M1 Max.
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Looking at the History of Mac Mini.... you might end up waiting until the end of days... or perhaps just 836 days before they upgrade it to something you don't want :p.

any way im SUPER happy with the Mac Mini, the best computer vs money (hell even without the VS money) I have ever gotten. (sold my MacBook pro i9, with the upgraded gpu, because this small machine obliviated it it in performance)
 
ecrispy said:
Its a $3000+ electronic device on which nothing is repairable or upgradeable and Apple will force you to upgrade in a few years, by artificially blocking upgrades on perfectly capable hardware, or if a $5 part goes bad, and fill landfills with toxic chemical waste.

This was maybe understandable when the devices were ultra thin, with the new design there's no excuse. And they boast about being 'clean/renewable'.
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Actually, there is an excuse — all the people complaining about how thick and heavy the 2021 MBP are. If everything beside the cores were turned into discrete chips soldered into a motherboard, you’d turn it into a desktop PC. Just look at the teardown photos, do you see any room where all these replaceable chips would fit?
 
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Overlay of 16" Max vs 14" Max

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Kung gu said:
oh really, then how come Apple added back ports, made the MBP thicker and better airflow.

The new ones also have pull tabs adhesive for battery replacements instead of being glued to the MBP.


But yeah keep that negativity flowing in your head
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Of course. Don’t forget apple is the forerunner of the entire anti-repair initiative.
 
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ddtmm said:
The firs thing that strikes me when I looked at the pics it that there really isn't much else on the board other than the SoC - mostly just regulators and periphery stuff. This is a pretty incredible design, to have eliminated so much circuitry by stuffing it all in the processor slab. Must be saving a lot on board design and manufacturing. Impressive.
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Hence price this time (except for ridiculous expensive storage upgrade) is reasonable and I bet Apple is still getting more money…”boxed not tampered” design is probably also dictating/allowing this architecture…
 
Their internals layout make me think of owls :).

Remarkable similarity between the two sizes. I ordered a 14” max as I carry my laptop daily and use external screens a lot. I am picky with fan noise though and curious about how they differ. 16” has its high power mode which probably boosts efficiency but requires the bigger fans to cool it. 14” does not but hopefully does everything else pretty much as well and not louder.

But I guess time will tell! The slightly bigger screen on 16” is amazing but yet again, if I’m on a Buss or train where space is constrained, then the diffeeence is being able to work or not even fit the laptop.
 
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Some people have more money than sense, just so people can go 'oooo and aaaahhh' at what's inside.
 
Replacable ports, battery and fans sound like a decent improvement. I wonder if that display cable (remember Flexgate) is also modular again. Then I would be quite happy. Remember, it based on a SoC, so you can't expect RAM or SSD to be replacable like 10y ago. Those times are gone (sadly)

I guess it gets a 2/10 or 3/10 score on iFixit. Seems better than the 2016-2018 models.
 
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yitwail said:
Just look at the teardown photos, do you see any room where all these replaceable chips would fit?
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I wonder if you've ever seen an iphone or ipad logic board. A 2-3 orders of magnitude components/area density. Mean, there's SOOOO MUCH ROOM for at least replaceable SSD inside this machines, even with no change to current board layout!
 
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ecrispy said:
Its a $3000+ electronic device on which nothing is repairable or upgradeable and Apple will force you to upgrade in a few years, by artificially blocking upgrades on perfectly capable hardware, or if a $5 part goes bad, and fill landfills with toxic chemical waste.

This was maybe understandable when the devices were ultra thin, with the new design there's no excuse. And they boast about being 'clean/renewable'.
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Only when it comes to the SSD, Battery and Fans. Everything else is either integrated (especially memory) or solid state. Fans can be replaced anyway, Battery also, but with some efforts. The only thing that would bother me is the SSD. An M2 Slot wouldn't have been asked too much...
 
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driveparty said:
MS doesn't punch itself in the chest making so much noise for SOOOOO greenish aspirations. Nothing to say, it's just copied apple's approach, offering, say, a very niche product in terms of market share.
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matrix07 said:
People talking like you can use a Mac for a few years at best but everyone around me using it for 8-10 years while they discarded their "upgradable PCs" around 3-4 years. ?
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I can anecdotally attest to this, for those that are around me upgrading and tossing PCs, after a few years:
  • Upgrades RAM, but the old ones are getting in the way either occupying precious slots, or isn’t the best clock speed or channels combination, or just doesn’t play well with the new ones incoming… conclusion, original ones go out, inert, potential waste. Nobody around wants to buy them either… they are buying the new ones too.
  • Upgrades CPU to get the latest shiniest, old one goes through the same consequences.
  • Upgrades CPU round 2: but this time it needs a new CPU slot, luckily the RAM and everything else is still compatible with the new motherboard.
  • New GPU, but it uses double the wattage at 400 Watts… needs new PSU.
  • So on and so forth.
Do this round a couple of times and the best that can happen is that the person ends up having at some point enough pieces to have a backup computer almost ready by adding a new case and dropping in some of the older components. I.e another computer and a few lonely pieces.

Upgrading doesn’t equal free of waste, especially when it is in the hand of the user (reselling a piece) and not a bigger entity with the capability take them back even if broken for disassembly and recycling.
 
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