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Quicken 2007 May Run on OS X Lion, Even With Rosetta Dead
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There are only one company you're allowed to complain on? If Company A is doing something worse than Company B although both companies have business practices you dislike => Then you shall not be allowed to have problems with Company B's software? You must then only complain about Company A?
Where is any sort of logic in this argument?
I guess they have known that sooner or later this was coming and now it's here. But I feel bad for companies that are going to be gimped by 10.7
I just looked at Moneydance and that seems to be the best way to move from Quicken. It will import Quicken data files and has a good look and feel.
Guess I will make the move tonight.
Bye bye Intuit!
Guess I will make the move tonight.
Bye bye Intuit!
See Finance and Moneywell
Hello and thank you for your post. SEE Finance does look good as well as Moneywell. It was helpful.
This is long (it started in 2006), but there's a lot of good info on various alternatives to Quicken:
http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/applications/topic4065.html
Off the top of my head, the latest options seem to be (in order of my personal preference):
SEE Finance - Excellent customer service, best import of old data, very fast
MoneyWell - Best budgeting, best iPhone app, very good customer service
Moneydance - OK gui, good feature list, Windows and Linux versions available
iBank - Poor customer service, lots of features, slow, OK import of old data
Quicken Essentials - Familiar interface, poor feature list, non-existent customer service, horrible history of fixing (or not fixing) bugs
I stopped upgrading Quicken long ago, after years of giving them my hard earned money. Reported bugs were never fixed, and new bugs were introduced with each new version of Quicken, many of which were never fixed (see a trend?). With that history, why would I give them any more of my money?
For now, I continue to use 2005, which came with my old Mac. I'll continue running it on my iBook until I find an alternative, which at this point will probably be SEE Finance, as soon as they add tags (sort of equivalent to Classes). MoneyWell is my 2nd choice.
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Btw, I don't use TurboTax either. TaxCut/HR Block has been my choice for nearly a decade. HR Block had a native app when OS X was released. It took Intuit a full year before they got around to it. TurboTax may be "nicer", but TaxCut/HR Block gets the job done for me, at a lower cost, and without enriching Intuit.
Hello and thank you for your post. SEE Finance does look good as well as Moneywell. It was helpful.
We have the other extreme too much pro Apple also.
The common sense people know that not everything Apple does is good, but they try and hit the majority right.
Since I have had Mac's since 1984 ever since SJ came back they have been on an incredible tear of innovation and game changing products.
They have IMO led mobile computing by moving us away from desktops to books and will now get us to a set up where we will do anything we want on the go.
With icloud you can have all your stuff everywhere where there is a computer to log into.
And just to mention a real fact to lilo777:
MacBooks and MBP's have been selling in record numbers while the PC market is flat.
As dumb as we make people out to be, they sense and know a good product when they see one.
I have personally switched many PC users to the MAC. They love the ease of use and never looked back.
lilo777 another candidate for my ignore list.
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It would be nice, but it's really an idealistic idea. It's simply not how technology works.
So buy:
VMWare
Windows
Quicken for Windows
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Seems like a rather expensive solution.
I think we can all agree that Quicken for Mac, and Intuit both suck. Clearly Intuit has decided that it doesn't make business sense to pursue the Mac market. Disappointing, but that's life.
I do take solace in the fact that they haven't earned much from Mac users recently because they keep promising vaporware that never develops. I've been using Q06 for 5 years now, and it seems like a lot of other posters are doing the same (or Q07 or Q05). The best thing about that is that we haven't had to give Quicken any more money. At least they've had the courtesy not to cut off features (as they did before with their 3-year online shutoff).
Intuit, I bid you farewell.
Question ????
I am currently using Quicken for Mac 2007, and I am only using it to track transactions history for Credit Cards and Banking Accounts. Will Quicken Essentials work to track transaction history for Credit Cards and Bank Accounts, and will it allow one to reconcile those accounts with the monthly statements?
It really is too bad that Intuit will not invest in a quality product for Mac users, but I do not feel as though there is much of a viable solution. SEE Finance seems like another logical solution, but it is an unknown entity in my eyes.
I am currently using Quicken for Mac 2007, and I am only using it to track transactions history for Credit Cards and Banking Accounts. Will Quicken Essentials work to track transaction history for Credit Cards and Bank Accounts, and will it allow one to reconcile those accounts with the monthly statements?
It really is too bad that Intuit will not invest in a quality product for Mac users, but I do not feel as though there is much of a viable solution. SEE Finance seems like another logical solution, but it is an unknown entity in my eyes.
Yes, Quicken essentials will do all of that but think about the future. With Intuit abandoning older versions of Quicken, it's possible that they could eventually stop supporting Quicken Essentials.
I'm personally moving to something else. Intuit is unreliable for Mac users.
I have an idea, instead of wrapping Quicken 2007 for Mac with Rosetta, why don't they do a cider port of the Windows version? It isn't like this isn't possible already. If you're going to go with a lazy and half assed support of your product for an entire segment of users you might as well give them the latest version that is actually feature complete for once.
KLUDGE ALERT! Intuit = BRAIN DEAD!
Whoa! I commented last night without having read the OP. Just read it. Wow, Intuit is SOOO retarded! "Imposible" to port code over to Intel? But just about every other dev, even little one-man shops, can do it virtually overnight.
Dear Intuit, if all you aspire to do is kludge together an already bastardized piece of software to run on intel by propping it up with a dead technology such as Rosetta, just save yourself the hassle already and do what you should have done long ago - KILL QUICKEN FOR THE MAC! It's like you're trying to keep it on life support and its kicking and screaming for you to pull the plug because you know not how to properly care of it. Intuit, YOU ARE SO DUMB...
...and shame on Apple if they help you put Rosetta into Quicken - giving you, Intuit, an easy way out. A way to be lazy so you don't have to step up and code natively for Intel!
Apple should take this opportunity to say, "GOODBYE Intuit... We will build a personal finance manager to end all other personal finance managers." Apple could build the iTunes of personal finance managers.
Good riddance, Intuit
Whoa! I commented last night without having read the OP. Just read it. Wow, Intuit is SOOO retarded! "Imposible" to port code over to Intel? But just about every other dev, even little one-man shops, can do it virtually overnight.
Dear Intuit, if all you aspire to do is kludge together an already bastardized piece of software to run on intel by propping it up with a dead technology such as Rosetta, just save yourself the hassle already and do what you should have done long ago - KILL QUICKEN FOR THE MAC! It's like you're trying to keep it on life support and its kicking and screaming for you to pull the plug because you know not how to properly care of it. Intuit, YOU ARE SO DUMB...
...and shame on Apple if they help you put Rosetta into Quicken - giving you, Intuit, an easy way out. A way to be lazy so you don't have to step up and code natively for Intel!
Apple should take this opportunity to say, "GOODBYE Intuit... We will build a personal finance manager to end all other personal finance managers." Apple could build the iTunes of personal finance managers.
Good riddance, Intuit
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Long, long time...
"Intuit is just horrendous for Mac. I'm amazed that they even bother trying."
Kinda the point. They didn't bother trying. Millions of Mac owners has never been enough for a lot of developers. Over the long haul they'll have to do better but this is the mess we have now. The sort of intimidation hoax MS has pulled off through the years has actually set personal computing back almost to the extent of another failed resource... TV.
"Intuit is just horrendous for Mac. I'm amazed that they even bother trying."
Kinda the point. They didn't bother trying. Millions of Mac owners has never been enough for a lot of developers. Over the long haul they'll have to do better but this is the mess we have now. The sort of intimidation hoax MS has pulled off through the years has actually set personal computing back almost to the extent of another failed resource... TV.
Whoa! I commented last night without having read the OP. Just read it. Wow, Intuit is SOOO retarded! "Imposible" to port code over to Intel? But just about every other dev, even little one-man shops, can do it virtually overnight.
Dear Intuit, if all you aspire to do is kludge together an already bastardized piece of software to run on intel but propping it up with a dead technology such as Rosetta, just save yourself the hassle and do what you should have done long ago - KILL QUICKEN FOR THE MAC ALREADY! It's like you're trying to keep it on life support and its kicking and screaming for you to pull the plug because you know not how to properly care of it. Intuit, YOU ARE SO DUMB...
...and shame on Apple if they help you put Rosetta into Quicken - giving you, Intuit, an easy way out. A way to be lazy so you don't have to step up and code from the ground up!
Apple should take this opportunity to say, GOODBYE Intuit. We will build a personal finance manager to end all other personal finance managers. Apple should build the iTunes of personal finance managers.
Good riddance, Intuit
They're the Quark of accounting software.
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If software like this is essential to a user, here's the options:
- Don't go Lion- your computer & software will continue to work as it does now. Rosetta will continue to run. Rosetta-dependent software will continue to function.
- Create a small Snow Leopard partition, then boot into that when you need to run select PPC software in Rosetta.
- Embrace one of the Windows emulators and upgrade to the Windows version.
- Gripe, complain, vent, whine about this spilled milk but, as always, once it's spilled...
The first two options won't cost you anything in terms of dollars (the first one will save you $29). If there is some hope in the 4th one that Apple will "come around", a masses execution of #1 is the best chance at it (but I don't see that happening).
#2 appears to be an easy answer at no $ cost that also supports desires to upgrade OS X to the latest & greatest.
#3 is the solution I use now, which does involve a fair amount of cost but also facilitates the ability to use any other software for the Windows platform (of which there are countless titles NOT available for ANY version of the Mac OS- classic, PPC or Intel. If you sometimes wish you could run more than just an updated version of Quicken, spread the cost of the emulator + Windows around to all of the Windows stuff you want to be able to run and it makes the cost seem increasingly small.
#4 seems to be the one many are embracing. It accomplishes nothing.
Some people may have decades of data in Quicken. The goofy proprietary qif format and lack of feature parity in any applications make it difficult to migrate.
As much ire as there is directed at Intuit -- and believe me I share it -- it might be worthwhile to consider why still to this day there isn't a clear alternative.
And this highlights why Quicken is such a terrible software company.
Why did they waste time on a custom-built database engine when there are several around that can work for them just as well?
Why did they have a different file format between Mac and Windows?
Quicken may have talented developers, but those who actually design and architect their software are absolute idiots.
Do you honestly think Apple will keep old kludge in their OS for the sake of a few applications that never got updated? If you've been using the same application for years on end under some form of emulation, you've got to accept that at some point it's going to stop working. I mean, this is basic stuff. You can only hang on to AppleWorks (for example, and before that ClarisWorks - going back to 1994) for so long until you have to call it a day.
The solution is simple, and everyone is going to have to do it at some point:
UPGRADE.
Thanks, Chris. Intuit is even questioning the long term viability of Quicken Essentials. That is why I am seriously considering SEE Finance.
It is a capitalistic society and the consumer votes with their pocketbook. If all Mac users voted with their pocketbook, it would be interesting to see the impact on Intuit's Quarterly Earnings.
What is wrong with you people? This may in fact be the only option Intuit has that makes any kind of business sense. It's called legacy software, and it's expensive to maintain. They're not going to make any new money off this product, and the conversion costs could very well be insane.
They have a path going forward with a new code base. It may not be going well enough for you, but it's nice they're coming up with a solution for the old software at all.
They have a path going forward with a new code base. It may not be going well enough for you, but it's nice they're coming up with a solution for the old software at all.
Because most people don't bother to track their finances and when they do they often pay someone else to do it for them.
It's kind of like how almost all science applications have horrendous UIs and quite a few are still CLI based.
As far as the Windows users, I would actually seriously consider jumping ship. If this is what they consider support for Mac users do you think when push comes to shove they'll help you?
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Quicken has become a fat, lazy arrogant company. I have used then for 19 years. They offer nothing but force you to upgrade. Not positive, but it wasn't even possible to read Windows version data into the Mac version! If that is not lazy & arrogant, I don't know what is. Worst of all, they completely ignore mobile devices & the demand for tracking transactions through your phone. Once you start that, there is no going back!
I am giving iBank a try. So far, not bad after 6 weeks.
Quicken has become a fat, lazy arrogant company. I have used then for 19 years. They offer nothing but force you to upgrade. Not positive, but it wasn't even possible to read Windows version data into the Mac version! If that is not lazy & arrogant, I don't know what is. Worst of all, they completely ignore mobile devices & the demand for tracking transactions through your phone. Once you start that, there is no going back!
I am giving iBank a try. So far, not bad after 6 weeks.