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adamsan said:
I got one aspect of my problem fixed. If you remove "QuickTime Plugin.webplugin" from Library/Internet Plug-Ins folder, the problem with the ? mark goes away.
With regards to your problem about only seeing a big blue Q, for some strange reason, Quicktime is loading the entire movie before playing it. (Try it with some smaller movies), just leave the page running for a few minutes, and the movie should start. (What I find strange is that this doesn't happen with Apple's on trailer page), the movies start straight away!
ebally said:
Thanks for the help eball. I've looked into it further and it seems QT7 works fine as a plugin in Firefox but not in Safari for me. Apple's browser just sits there as though the page is loaded with nothing in the Activity window or in the progress bar to suggest anything's downloading. Apple have now put a prominent link to the QT6.5 re-installer in the QuickTime forums which I may go for.
Bug in Tiger
Has anyone else noticed this bug. When you minimize a Quicktime window you can not maximize it back by clicking on it in the dock. You have to use the Quicktime window menu pick to bring it back. I have tried this in all four of my Macs (2 800 Mhz G4 iMacs a 1.33 17" powerbook and a 1.5 15") powerbook after installation of Tiger and they all do it. Not sure if this is a G4 thing or an HD issue or not.
Also panther used to actually show the movie running in the dock and now Tiger/QUicktime 7 just shows a screen capture. Steve even singled out this old feature in one of his Keynotes way back.
P.s. You can count me in as another person who is extremely disappointed that I purchased a Tiger Family pack and am now being forced to pay for Quicktime 7 keys for 4 machines to be legitimate when I had already purchased keys for QT 6 Pro. Let me stay on 6 if I want in Tiger or give the same functionality I had. This was a hidden tax for previous 6 Pro users who upgrade.
Chuck
Has anyone else noticed this bug. When you minimize a Quicktime window you can not maximize it back by clicking on it in the dock. You have to use the Quicktime window menu pick to bring it back. I have tried this in all four of my Macs (2 800 Mhz G4 iMacs a 1.33 17" powerbook and a 1.5 15") powerbook after installation of Tiger and they all do it. Not sure if this is a G4 thing or an HD issue or not.
Also panther used to actually show the movie running in the dock and now Tiger/QUicktime 7 just shows a screen capture. Steve even singled out this old feature in one of his Keynotes way back.
P.s. You can count me in as another person who is extremely disappointed that I purchased a Tiger Family pack and am now being forced to pay for Quicktime 7 keys for 4 machines to be legitimate when I had already purchased keys for QT 6 Pro. Let me stay on 6 if I want in Tiger or give the same functionality I had. This was a hidden tax for previous 6 Pro users who upgrade.
Chuck
ChuckM said:
yeah, i've noticed this bug.. thought it was just me. i think it may be a bug introduced from Upgrading to Tiger, rather than a clean install or an archive and install.. just checked on my other computer, which i did do an archive and install, and it's working fine including playing the movie in the dock.
hope this gets fixed in 10.4.1, otherwise i'm gonna do a clean reinstall of tiger (something i probably should've done in the first place, just too lazy to reinstall some of my software).
just found the reason for this bug.. the Divx plugin.. after removing it, the second Help menu goes away, and i'm able to minimize and pull up a quicktime file from the dock.
and i was blaming Apple.. silly me. hope divx releases an update. although i really hope h.264 replaces divx throughout the internet.
and i was blaming Apple.. silly me. hope divx releases an update. although i really hope h.264 replaces divx throughout the internet.
i don't have 10.4 yet but did get QT7Pro and I do not have that issue with minimizing and maximizing from the dock. QT7Pro works like a charm for me!
Tiger bugs are being reported all over the place. My friends who installed Tiger last night said that there are some minor glitches with Safari, Mail, QT7, and some other issues but hopfully this will get worked out soon.
I almost bought Tiger today but left w/o it. I'm gonna wait till next weekend and see how everyone else is doing. No need to rush. Besides my friend has it on his iMac so I can play with it there. That's if Safari doesn't quit on him. Also some of the widgets do not link up as the weather widget refuses to work he said.
Tiger bugs are being reported all over the place. My friends who installed Tiger last night said that there are some minor glitches with Safari, Mail, QT7, and some other issues but hopfully this will get worked out soon.
I almost bought Tiger today but left w/o it. I'm gonna wait till next weekend and see how everyone else is doing. No need to rush. Besides my friend has it on his iMac so I can play with it there. That's if Safari doesn't quit on him. Also some of the widgets do not link up as the weather widget refuses to work he said.
All these complaints about paying for Quicktime Pro when going from 6 - 7 is making laugh
this has been the same for apple for years
i didn't get quicktime 3 pro because i didn't need it
BUT
i payed to get Quicktime 4 pro, i payed to get Quicktime 5 pro, i payed to get quicktime 6 pro, and now i'll pay to get quicktime 7 pro < --- guess what; i, and all of you complaining, will also have to pay to get quicktime 8 pro sometime down the road when that comes out <-- this has been the case with apple since quicktime 1 --- no point in getting all testy about it ... just the realities ..
this has been the same for apple for years
i didn't get quicktime 3 pro because i didn't need it
BUT
i payed to get Quicktime 4 pro, i payed to get Quicktime 5 pro, i payed to get quicktime 6 pro, and now i'll pay to get quicktime 7 pro < --- guess what; i, and all of you complaining, will also have to pay to get quicktime 8 pro sometime down the road when that comes out <-- this has been the case with apple since quicktime 1 --- no point in getting all testy about it ... just the realities ..
In the context of iChat and H.264. I'm pretty sure you can't run iChat with 3 streams of video on a cell phone.maradong said:
confirmed said:just found the reason for this bug.. the Divx plugin.. after removing it, the second Help menu goes away, and i'm able to minimize and pull up a quicktime file from the dock.
and i was blaming Apple.. silly me. hope divx releases an update. although i really hope h.264 replaces divx throughout the internet.
Thanks for the info. I have the DivX codec installed on all machines too. But how will I play the new Dr. Who videos from the UK without it?
Here's something I shot. It's 720p30 HD:imnoah said:
http://homepage.mac.com/tvwriter/.Movies/tabla_HD_H264.mov
tip: Option-click the link, then open it in QT7. It's better to open it from within QuickTime than from within a browser.
To play back 1080i/p HD content a dual G5 is required. To encode H.264 you need a lot of patience even with a dual G5 because it takes a long time. As you mentioned, cell phones can play back postage-stamp size content. Once you get into higher frame sizes it's a different story.GodBless said:
Please don't even think about upgrading to Tiger unless you're finished with all of your current FCP projects. QT7 is probably a risky proposition as well, so my advice is finish your current projects first and THEN upgrade the OS and QT.amac4me said:
This is the same clip linked above, but encoded with Sorenson Pro 3.1:shidoshi said:
http://homepage.mac.com/tvwriter/.Movies/tabla_HD_720.mov
(Option-click for best results).
The HD codec your PowerBook could probably play back smoothly is DVCProHD. If you're having that much trouble with H.264 content, just use QuickTime 7 Pro to export those files to DVCProHD, and then play back the DVCProHD files. But considering all the time that's likely to take you might want to think about buying a dual G5.Tcnorman said:
There was never an educational discount on QT Pro, at least in the past 3 years.plasticparadox said:Hmmm... no educational discount on Quicktime Pro?
Yes, Apple will feel your spite and rue your switching. That's the way to teach them a lesson. The problem is most likely the third-party software you had installed (such as UI mods) or hardware you had connected (via USB or FireWire) during your software update.eliamx said:Quicktime 7 killed my hd, and nothign i am doing fixes the problem. Anyone have any advice? Is this a secret ploy of apple to get me to reinstall (and why bother installing 10.3 and all the updates, eliam? Why don't you just drop by one of our stores and buy Tiger today?) to buy Tiger? Same day, my mac hd is kaput unless i erase completely and install!! BASTARDS. Don't make me get a Dell damn it! (I hate PCs to death, but i'd do it just to spite Apple ... i don't know why i'm growing more and more suspect of Apple.
It's not a QuickTime plug-in but Sorenson Squeeze 4 does the job.Ace25 said:
Congratulations, as you've just discovered the difference between a single G4 and a dual G5. For the same money (plus $20 for a CRT monitor off Craigslist) you could have bought a dual G5 but you needed portability and a pretty LCD. However, H.264 encoding renders the machine stationary (as you need to plug it in). This H.264 business is another factor to consider when deciding between portability and power. I agree with you concerning offloading some of the work to the GPU.DrNeroCF said:
I hardly use QT Player, I mainly use VLC, DVD Player, etc... So the PRO package is not tempting. Though some PRO features should really be standard like full screen and save mode.
Seems Apple is pulling this version tight on free features.
Seems Apple is pulling this version tight on free features.
WMV is not evil but it is lame and the page you linked proves it.em500 said:
All of the WMV HD content linked on that page is packaged in *.exe files.
One good thing about your contribution to this thread is that it serves as a great reminder about the value of QuickTime and H.264.
edit: a quick search brought up this forum on macosxhints.com. As it happens, those WMV HD clips are playable in Windows Media Player (Mac) but they look absolutely pathetic - the 24p files play back at 6 frames/second on my dual G5. VLC 0.8.1 can't handle them. QuickTime Player 6.5.2 with Flip4Mac's WMV Player component plays them back better than WMP, and of course QT Pro lets you transcode (export) to other, more Mac-friendly formats such as DVCProHD.
Rod Rod said:
I bought it yesterday, just the same. I didn't know there was never an ed discount, because well I never looked into paying for Quicktime in the past. But I'm trying to go all legit on my Mac from now.
Rod Rod said:
You're right, and trust me, I definitely considered the whole g4/g5 dilemma, but since I'm a student, portability won over power. Of course, I was hoping to wait until Apple got Cell processors or g5 Powerbooks, but my Al Powerbook's hinges both broke and the logic board fried, so it was either get a Powerbook that could later be supplemented by a dual-dual core, or a desktop that would be outdated and replaced. Really, the only part on this thing that's up to date is the 9700 mobility, so I'm really hoping that Apple can do something about that and let it pull its weight around.
When you think about it, video editors on the go got royally screwed over...
I not quite sure where that statement came from, but most on-the-go editors work with proxy video files. Final Cut Pro has the ability to transcode any source video to the Offline RT JPEG format exclusively for cutting on PBs and even iBooks. Then you can bring it back to the studio and reconnect the media to the original capture footage.DrNeroCF said:
But if you are editing DV video, which I believe 95% of people out there use, PowerBooks can handle the task just fine.
QT 7 Appears to stall at Blue Q
I found the same thing, after playing a couple of the new HD samples I went to Citroen to watch the C4 commercial (it's a hoot), and tried a couple of other sites. Left the Blue Q screens showing for several minutes. Nothing. No activity listed in Activity window either. After reading your post I tried again and just waited. The samples started to play eventually, and sure enough they were fully loaded. Activity window still listed "0 bytes" even though they were actually downloaded. You have me the clue here by saying it was loading the whole movie first. I thought... why would it do that? Then I remebered reading "Automatic configuration" was a new feature. Hello! On a hunch I went straight to configure plug-ins and changed streaming speed from "Automatic" to about half my ADSL speed. Instant fix. My guess is automatic detection is my case is not reporting the correct speed. Or maybe it was just a freak accident.
ebally said:
I found the same thing, after playing a couple of the new HD samples I went to Citroen to watch the C4 commercial (it's a hoot), and tried a couple of other sites. Left the Blue Q screens showing for several minutes. Nothing. No activity listed in Activity window either. After reading your post I tried again and just waited. The samples started to play eventually, and sure enough they were fully loaded. Activity window still listed "0 bytes" even though they were actually downloaded. You have me the clue here by saying it was loading the whole movie first. I thought... why would it do that? Then I remebered reading "Automatic configuration" was a new feature. Hello! On a hunch I went straight to configure plug-ins and changed streaming speed from "Automatic" to about half my ADSL speed. Instant fix. My guess is automatic detection is my case is not reporting the correct speed. Or maybe it was just a freak accident.
I don't really like this update.
First off, the annoying-as-hell "Pro" things in the menu. Then the "live"-resizing, which reminds me of resizing windows in OS 10.1 on my 500 Mhz iBook. The only cool feature is the speeding up of the clips - and of course, they didn't figure out how to speed a clip up without changing the audio. What's really annoying is that when you change the speed for one player and then switch to a different player, the windows with A/V controls still controls the old player - without any visual clue.
On a side-note and totally off-topic, but i dont want to start another thread just for this: Is it possible to only sync from the Mac to the devices in iSync, and not the other way around? I don't want the "changes" from the iPod to affect my Mac and whenever I click cancel, it stops the entire sync.
First off, the annoying-as-hell "Pro" things in the menu. Then the "live"-resizing, which reminds me of resizing windows in OS 10.1 on my 500 Mhz iBook. The only cool feature is the speeding up of the clips - and of course, they didn't figure out how to speed a clip up without changing the audio. What's really annoying is that when you change the speed for one player and then switch to a different player, the windows with A/V controls still controls the old player - without any visual clue.
On a side-note and totally off-topic, but i dont want to start another thread just for this: Is it possible to only sync from the Mac to the devices in iSync, and not the other way around? I don't want the "changes" from the iPod to affect my Mac and whenever I click cancel, it stops the entire sync.
Here's my story:
2005-04-18 20:26:44 -0400: Installed "Mac OS X Update" (10.3.9)
2005-04-25 20:18:49 -0400: Installed "Java Update for Mac OS X v10.3.9" (1.0)
2005-04-30 13:51:51 -0400: Installed "QuickTime" (7.0)
And now for the lovely ending:
Quicktime Player and iTunes do not launch. I get beach balls.
Dear Apple:
Thanks.
PS.
**** You
2005-04-18 20:26:44 -0400: Installed "Mac OS X Update" (10.3.9)
2005-04-25 20:18:49 -0400: Installed "Java Update for Mac OS X v10.3.9" (1.0)
2005-04-30 13:51:51 -0400: Installed "QuickTime" (7.0)
And now for the lovely ending:
Quicktime Player and iTunes do not launch. I get beach balls.
Dear Apple:
Thanks.
PS.
**** You
Just updated to QT7 and everything seems to be working fine so far! I even tried watching the HD Batman Begins trailer and although it wasn't perfectly smooth (as if you were watching it on TV) it was pretty darn close! And looked fantastic.
This is on an 1.33GHz iBook G4 running Mac OS X 10.3.9
This is on an 1.33GHz iBook G4 running Mac OS X 10.3.9