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Quicktime 7.0 in Software update...

Well - after installing 10.3.9 and QT7 QT is broken.

When I try to launch QT it says QT is old must install QT7.

When I try to install QT7 it says cannot install - you have a later version of QT than QT7???

huh?
 
Nermal said:
... and? Did you get it working?
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Nope--he escalated it to software engineers and they're going to get back to me. It's not something I can fix at present...it's a problem that he was able to reproduce, and traced it to the 10.3.9 upgrade.
 
GodBless said:
Good joke. H.264 is so scaleable that it can be used in cell phones. Show me a cell phone with a G5 in it. H.264 will work fine on any machine that can run OS X.
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I just got Tiger, with QT 7 and it is having some problems running the HD aspect of things. Audio is fine, video is a little choppy. I don't know if anyone has any suggestions, I would think my PowerBook could run HD video.
 
MattG said:
Nope--he escalated it to software engineers and they're going to get back to me. It's not something I can fix at present...it's a problem that he was able to reproduce, and traced it to the 10.3.9 upgrade.
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Well I guess it's good that it's reproducible, because that means they can debug it :)

Tcnorman said:
I just got Tiger, with QT 7 and it is having some problems running the HD aspect of things. Audio is fine, video is a little choppy. I don't know if anyone has any suggestions, I would think my PowerBook could run HD video.
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I have Tiger too, and I can just play 720 video, but 1080 is horrible :(
 
No FLV export support??

Is there really no export to FLV support for making movies in the Macromedia Flash standard? Am I just missing how to do it? In Quicktime 6 you could export to FLV?
Please advise!
 
dogsbody said:
Installation of QuickTime 7 will disable the QuickTime Pro functionality in prior versions of QuickTime. If you proceed with this installation, you must purchase a new QuickTime 7 Pro key to regain QuickTime Pro functionality. After installation, visit www.apple.com/quicktime to purchase a QuickTime 7 Pro key.
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So in other words, for a Panther user with a Quicktime Pro Key, the Tiger upgrade is actually $159 (unless there's a way to say "no thanks" to QT7 in Tiger, or loss of functionality is considered "upgrading")

A company that is able to manage how many computers are authorized to play purchased DRM AAC tracks should be able to distinguish that old keys unlock a subset of the current QT Pro feature set.
 
Nermal said:
Upon closer inspection: OK, my country's not in the list, and there's no option for unlisted countries :mad:

Now I'm waiting for Apple to reply to my email.
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They replied, and said that they can't help, and that I should call the Apple Store on a certain American phone number, at great expense. Why can't they just reply by email? It's not hard! :mad:
 
beengone said:
CHEEZY! I was always bugged by the little pop-up "Get QuickTime Pro now" window. Now, we get to have cluttered menus showing us what we can't do with the regular version. Give me a break. I do have a copy of Pro. I just don't use it in this office. If I need ot edit content, I go across the hall. I don't want my menus cluttered. . .
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You can get rid of the "Get QTP now" pop-ups by setting your system date to something like 2035 and clicking "later" on the pop-up. No annoying reminders for at least 30 years... :D
 
Playback of 1080 HD videos is unviewable on my 1ghz powerbook. I guess I'll just have to be content with watching my WMV HD videos on my Athlon64 PC until QT7 comes out for windows.
 
Tcnorman said:
I just got Tiger, with QT 7 and it is having some problems running the HD aspect of things. Audio is fine, video is a little choppy. I don't know if anyone has any suggestions, I would think my PowerBook could run HD video.
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That's what I thought so too (I'm running a rev. d 12-inch superdrive powerbook with a 1.5 ghz processor, 768 mf of ram, and the 80 gig hardrive) but apple lists a dual 2.0 ghz g5 with 512 mb of ram and 128 mb of vram to play full hd video.
 
QT7 killed my mac

iMetalG5 said:
comments on QT7??? Any problems to be reported?
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YES!! I downloaded it immediately and was asked to restart. That was sometime this morning, 10am. I still have yet to get my mac to reboot. I've started with the disc, did repairs, did repair permissions, did CUDA resets, I did the Option-Apple-O-R , and have even upgraded the OS w/ CD. NOTHING. MY hard drive doesn't wanna get past the apple gray screen bootup. Quicktime 7 killed my hd, and nothign i am doing fixes the problem. Anyone have any advice? Is this a secret ploy of apple to get me to reinstall (and why bother installing 10.3 and all the updates, eliam? Why don't you just drop by one of our stores and buy Tiger today?) to buy Tiger? Same day, my mac hd is kaput unless i erase completely and install!! BASTARDS. Don't make me get a Dell damn it! (I hate PCs to death, but i'd do it just to spite Apple ... i don't know why i'm growing more and more suspect of Apple. :confused:
 
AndreMA said:
So in other words, for a Panther user with a Quicktime Pro Key, the Tiger upgrade is actually $159 (unless there's a way to say "no thanks" to QT7 in Tiger, or loss of functionality is considered "upgrading")

A company that is able to manage how many computers are authorized to play purchased DRM AAC tracks should be able to distinguish that old keys unlock a subset of the current QT Pro feature set.
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I believe that you'll still be able to use the QT6 Pro Player as long as you don't do a clean install of Tiger. That is, if you already have a registered (working) version of the QT6 Player it will still function with all of the old "pro" QT6 features under Tiger. However, you won't get the new QT7 Pro Player features unless you pay the additional $30 fee for another key.
 
Tcnorman said:
I just got Tiger, with QT 7 and it is having some problems running the HD aspect of things. Audio is fine, video is a little choppy. I don't know if anyone has any suggestions, I would think my PowerBook could run HD video.
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For full frame rate H.264 HD you need a 1.8GHz Power Mac G5 or better. That's what Apple says, however, some have reported pretty good results with the faster dual Power Mac G4s.
 
Yes and no on H.264

swissmann said:
I hope this H.264 thing turns out to be everything that it has been hyped up to be.
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First, let me say that H.264 rocks -- much better than what we have been using. I've been using it for a couple years (yeah, early adopter and all that). All roads lead to H.264 eventually.

HOWEVER, encoding good high-quality HD-grade H.264 is an unholy CPU whore that will bring the most powerful machines to their knees. The hardware we required to do HD H.264 in realtime from D5 was very expensive and proprietary just two years ago, though some dedicated silicon has been worked on for a while. Decoding requires a beefy machine but anything high-end should be able to manage now, and the PPC has both Altivec and good DSP support in the native ISA, which will help a lot. I was looking at prototypes of dedicated silicon HD H.264 decoders for consumers a couple years ago.
 
H.264 is CPU intensive

Tcnorman said:
I just got Tiger, with QT 7 and it is having some problems running the HD aspect of things. Audio is fine, video is a little choppy. I don't know if anyone has any suggestions, I would think my PowerBook could run HD video.
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I would be impressed if a Powerbook could handle HD H.264 with all the bells and whistles.

HD H.264 has some very heavy CPU requirements. Two years ago, the test boxen were high-end SGI boxes that used all the processors to crunch the video in parallel. Dedicated silicon can manage H.264 decode with all the bells and whistles turned on, but it has a tendency to crush all but the beefiest CPUs. Real-time HD decode is doable but iffy. Real-time HD encode requires exotic hardware.

H.264 is very, very slick, but all that slickness is paid for in the number of CPU cycles required to encode and decode a frame.
 
Was playing around with the Batman trailer, and I must say, it's utterly gorgeous. The smaller of the HD played fine (I still have Panther), but the larger one is bigger than my PowerBook screen! Plays rather choppy too. Now I have a core image compatible video card, would tiger speed playback up? (though there's really no point in playing a video file bigger than my screen...)
 
QT Pro exported to Macromedia FLV

Nermal said:
I think there was a plugin you had to install. Maybe the plugin hasn't been updated for QT7 yet.
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Any other advice on exporting from Quicktime 7 Pro to an Macromedia FLV file. It doesn't seem possible anymore.
I asked the Apple "genius bar" and they had no idea...
Please share if you know where to find a plug-in or if Apple is planning to fix this problem.

Thanks!
 
Seriously: someone mentioned that QT7 offers support for Quartz Extreme (hardware rendering?) - if this is true, why isn't it enabled? Wouldn't decoding be faster, and supported better even on G4 machines? It seems the hardware requirements would be less than they are if hardware / video card decoding were supported.

Anyone?
 
QuickTime 7 does work for me.

Quicktime 7 is broken for me. It works with Apple trailers and movies I have already downloaded onto my computer, etc. But it doesn't like Streaming things, like the Apple Events or the Online Tiger seminar. (I just get a dark grey or black screen, with 1 second of sound). Also on certain sites with movies, I just a Q with a ? mark in the middle (or though the sites work perfectly with QuickTime 6). :(

Any advice?
 
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