I couldn't care less. I am using Bluetooth earphones anyway. Never used the headset of my 6s since I got it last year.
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How much do you want to wager that the Apple retail store employees will all be standing around bored on Friday morning with no customers walking in?
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If you have four sets of headphones just get another 3 adapters the $9 ones that will be available - someone mentioned earlier.
Keep all four adapters permantly on the earphones.
$27 for a $1000 device in the scheme of things...
Buy Belkin just it case
keep usb charger in car and lightning at work.
If you have four sets of headphones just get another 3 adapters the $9 ones that will be available - someone mentioned earlier.
Keep all four adapters permantly on the earphones.
$27 for a $1000 device in the scheme of things...
Buy Belkin just it case
keep usb charger in car and lightning at work.
You are so full of yourself.
Audio quality has nothing to do with the 3.5mm headphone jack. It has to do with the DAC
Maybe move to Samsung. Who knows?
I doubt that the majority of people has heard of LeCo. I certainly hasn't.
That you have to resource to some obscure company just defeat your purpose.
Let me borrow your crystal ball: I want to know the number for the next Powerball.
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Given that T-Mobile is giving free iPhone 7 to those trading in their iPhone 6 and iPhone 6S, I wouldn't be surprise.
Whether one likes it or not, whether one thinks its necessary or not, I think that the headphone train has left the station. With a couple of Android phones, and now the iPhone, removing the headphone jack, its just a matter of time before the rest of the industry follows suit and aligns with bluetooth as the defacto standard. It is just the way with FOMO herd mentality in industry: one airline adds a fee, everyone else follows. One carrier drops a plan, everyone else follows suit.
I think in 5 or 10 years, unless you order a cable from a music store or a specialty store, the 3.5mm cable would have disappeared from the racks of generic retail.
I think in 5 or 10 years, unless you order a cable from a music store or a specialty store, the 3.5mm cable would have disappeared from the racks of generic retail.
So I have to constantly charge them and audio sounds worse?
No, thanks.
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Enough with your strawman.
Or the rest of the industry could realize that it's a bad idea and not follow.
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Good for you.
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All the people saying that android phones will follow are forgetting one thing: if Android does move on, it will be to an industry standard port- USB C. Yay to headphone fragmentation?
To the people saying they are happy with Bluetooth..to each his own, but Bluetooth is not ****ing with wired quality AT ALL
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A pair of cans I was considering a few months ago..the Vmoda Wireless..are generally accepted to be great headphones. But what users found out later on is that when using the Bluetooth mode, the quality and punch of the music suffered..vs the wired mode.
To the people saying they are happy with Bluetooth..to each his own, but Bluetooth is not ****ing with wired quality AT ALL
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Utter nonsense? Bluetooth headphones are known to have inferior quality compared to wired..just read around at head-fi.org for some easy examples..
A pair of cans I was considering a few months ago..the Vmoda Wireless..are generally accepted to be great headphones. But what users found out later on is that when using the Bluetooth mode, the quality and punch of the music suffered..vs the wired mode.
Case in point.
[doublepost=1473780812][/doublepost]The problem I have is that I cannot charge the iphone while using a headset anymore.
It wasn't a strawman argument, and it wasn't directed at you either.
You've already shown a complete lack of credibility by claiming "there won't be widespread adoption of Lightning because it is proprietary" when it’s difficult to find a retail store that doesn’t sell Lightning-equipped cables of some sort.
Lightning has already been widely adopted. Your claims to the contrary notwithstanding.
The post I quoted didn't say "have inferior quality" it said "sound like crap". That simply is not true. It's not exactly lossless, but it's fine, and a lot better than most people would ever need with their £10 headphones.
I'm not really willing to get into such basics of this debate, to be honest. Anyone who doesn't view Bluetooth as a compromise is a fool, but so is anyone who dismisses it out of hand.
Fair enough. My main gripe is why deal with compromises when the prior phone had the best of all worlds?
Well that's fair too. I think the only sensible answer is "to push things forward" and sincerely hope that's their motivation.
For the record, while it doesn't actually affect me except on the rarest of occasions, from a current consumer's perspective I think the jack should still be there. We may, however, look back on this in a few years and think that ultimately it was a good thing.
About where I stand and think.
BT isn't as good, but will suffice for the masses. The new wireless will get the attention...we'll see more products in the months ahead. Better battery life hopefully too.
Musicians and those who demand better sound will continue with their products as before. They will have to get adapters and such or keep using the 6s/+ (and earlier models).
I really don't see Apple going back to before (unless complete buyer backlash) and I don't think that will happen.
This is the new future...
I understand Intel wants to kill it off but Intel only designs the chips, not the rest of the computer a manufacturer makes.
And what laptops don't have them. Point me towards one.
Wireless charging that's around at the moment isn't really true wireless charging. If anything, it's more restricting that wired. You can't use it easily because it has to sit on a pad. Once it's cracked that you can wirelessly charge within a radius of a charger, like how you connect to a wifi in range, that's true wireless charging.
Maybe that's what Apple are waiting for. Who knows.
As I've said, I'd wish Apple would go to USB-C. Though you do realise that some headphone companies already make lightning versions of their headphones? Plus additionally, a USB-C to Lightning adapter will be easier to deal with that the 3.5mm jack, so in the grand scheme, not a major issue.
Lenovo and HP are bringing out ones soon without them. The ball has started rolling.
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No. pasted the wrong link in. Was meant be a link to a chromebook that doesn't have one and was still holding the MacBook link that I pasted into a message for the mother in law as she wants one. Never try and multitask when tired!
Mind you, I'd be fairly certain that that MacBook world see the 3.5 swapped for a lightning or a another USB-C slot.
That MacBook is also a good example of having to use adapters. It still sold damn well despite being limited to one USB port.
People serious about headphone sound never considered the audio jack adequate. They've been using dongles since the 30-pin days. If you buy expensive headphones and expect them to sound great from a smartphone audio jack you're a fool.
On the go headphone enthusiasts use "dongles" from Apogee, Fiio, Muse, go-DAP and many others.
Awesome... that's one for someone who may not have been able to get one if you had pre-ordered.
That's right. At the audio jack, through the internal DAC and anaemic amp, the sound is already ruined. With digital output to the connector you still have it in your hands and can make of it what you like (and can afford).
Edit: to be clear, the built-in amp is actually a much bigger problem than the DAC. Every headphone enthusiast I know built a CMoy to get around that problem. I've built half a dozen variants. Sure as hell I will not miss the audio jack.
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I hadn't even thought of that. It's probably very true, and maybe even more so with the tech sector. But I don't know. I read today about the 'presumed' next all glass model, and it sort of looks like this new phone just released is another 's' type thing, and all this is in preparation for the next fancy phone, with a sculptured, minimalistic design, which actually might be really cool
Who cares about function if it's really cool, anyway.
Problem is, the phone you guys are buying today is about a cool as dish water. Knock yourselves out
@dogslobber
1. Your title is incorrect and inaccurate:
it infers the iPhone, as product, has "died" which is impossible.
2. In the context of the iPhone 7 announcement, you mean to say that somehow no one will be buying from the iPhone product line anymore and that its production will cease.
Complete nonsense.
They have managed to improve performance, the display, the cameras, add water and dust certified resistance, a speaker while improving the battery life. I don't see how this is a bad update.
3. Your "grief" is centered around the removal of the headphone port seemingly.
I haven't used the headphones from my iPhone boxes since the iPhone 4 iterations ago.
Many may care about plugging in, I personally don't: the only time I use headphones is when I travel and I use my Bluetooth Parrot Zik 3.0 noise canceling headphones. The rest of the time my two iPhone are both paired and connected to my cars.
4. I dislike your screen name.
5. Hyperboles can be great when used well. This wasn't it.
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True on the inferior audio quality when processed through Bluetooth.
However, have you ever put on a pair of Parrot Zik 3.0 and used the companion app to tweak the sound to your liking?
I highly suggest you do.
It gets better as you go up in price.
With time, tech improvements will make the sound better.
The dedicated chip Apple created for this is amazing.
And their new Bluetooth pairing process alone, it makes anything else look... antiquated.
1. Your title is incorrect and inaccurate:
it infers the iPhone, as product, has "died" which is impossible.
2. In the context of the iPhone 7 announcement, you mean to say that somehow no one will be buying from the iPhone product line anymore and that its production will cease.
Complete nonsense.
They have managed to improve performance, the display, the cameras, add water and dust certified resistance, a speaker while improving the battery life. I don't see how this is a bad update.
3. Your "grief" is centered around the removal of the headphone port seemingly.
I haven't used the headphones from my iPhone boxes since the iPhone 4 iterations ago.
Many may care about plugging in, I personally don't: the only time I use headphones is when I travel and I use my Bluetooth Parrot Zik 3.0 noise canceling headphones. The rest of the time my two iPhone are both paired and connected to my cars.
4. I dislike your screen name.
5. Hyperboles can be great when used well. This wasn't it.
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True on the inferior audio quality when processed through Bluetooth.
However, have you ever put on a pair of Parrot Zik 3.0 and used the companion app to tweak the sound to your liking?
I highly suggest you do.
It gets better as you go up in price.
With time, tech improvements will make the sound better.
The dedicated chip Apple created for this is amazing.
And their new Bluetooth pairing process alone, it makes anything else look... antiquated.
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My original quote from you was you stating that Apple did not remove the headphone jack to make more money and that wireless options are available from other companies.
Not everyone wants to use wireless headphones believe it or not. So if you want to use wired headphones there are three options.
1) Use the lightning headphones that come with the phone which are uncomfortable.
2) Buy lightning headphones from other manufacturers which almost certainly Apple makes money out of due to licensing.
3) Use the adapter that comes with the phone and use 3.5mm headphones. However if these get lost there is a £9 charge to replace them or buy additional ones. Again Apple will make a profit from this as well.
I fail to see how Apple does not make any additional profit from removing the headphone jack.
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On option 3 cant folks just buy a few of the £9 adapters and a drop of superglue and then said adapter will never get lost, well unless the headphones got lost?
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