Race to dump the 4870 ROM, Who's first?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by MacVidCards, Mar 4, 2009.

  1. MacVidCards thread starter Suspended

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    April 22nd?!!!????!!!!

    I can't possibly wait that long....I'll be old by then.

    Surely there must be a 4870 '09er out there ready and unafraid of DOS, all it takes is one.
     
  2. bozz2006 macrumors 68030

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    Rominator, if i were interested in buying a PC 4870 to use in my mac pro classic, how would I go about doing this? Once the ROM hits the public. I mean, what's the process? I'd like to use the 4870 in my "old" mac pro, but would love to be able to get away with buying the PC version rather than almost double for the mac version.

    And there are so many different versions of that card. Seriously, which one do I want/need?
     
  3. mackmack macrumors member

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    Well that's the thing. We don't know if it's possible to use the PC version yet. ;) That's why we need the ROM to find out. Spread the word man. We need the ROMMM.
     
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    I guess the sapphire card are the closest ones to the reference design. However, it's not sure that a dual DVI card works properly with the mac rom because one of the outputs is displayport.

    Another interesting experiment would be to test the rom on a 1024 Mb Radeon...
     
  6. mackmack macrumors member

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    There several iterations of the 4870 reference pcb. I would say anything based on the first revision reference PCB is the closest to what we'll get to the mac version.

    Any 4870 with a funky looking heatsink/fan combo is most likely not a reference 4870. Only the ones that have heatsinks that look like the mac version's are the rev. 1 boards. The sticker can be different but the design has to be the same.
     
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    :D
     
  8. t4cgirl macrumors member

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    Just gotta contribute my moral support to this effort. Thanks to all those involved -- for every poster there are many times as many Mac Pro 2g'ers anxiously awaiting some good results!

    K
     
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  10. MacVidCards thread starter Suspended

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    So I checked with Rob-Art.......he reiterated that the 4870 has been demonstrated to work in 1st Gen Mac Pro...with details coming next week.

    Even more reason to get that ROM and get a Dual DVI 4870 that works for all Mac Pros.
     
  11. grue macrumors 65816

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    So true, so true. If nothing else, as a temporary card until there's an Nvidia card worth having.
     
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  13. MacVidCards thread starter Suspended

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    If you find a Roll of Toilet Paper on the Macmall site it will be listed as "Mac and PC Compatable"

    WIshful thinking is NOT going to get 4870s running in everyone's Mac Pro.

    Apple could NOT charge $350 for their 4870 if the $170 one at Newegg worked just as well. Especially as we are now having "ADC"...I'm sorry "MiniDisplay Port"....shoved down our throats. $350 for card, another $100 for an adapter to be able to use it like the $170 Newegg card....for a total cost of $450 vs $170....hmmm.

    I am hopeful that someone finds 15 minutes to help the community soon and we get this ROM posted.
     
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    Loved that. :p
     
  16. netkas macrumors 65816

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    Once smbd flash a 4870 card with 4870 mac rom and it will be alive - user need to install few kexts to system, easiest way is to get 48x0 pkg for osx86 and install it with pacifist( because real macs doesnt need Natit.kext (u can delete it anytime if accidentialy installed)).
     
  17. alam macrumors regular

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    i don't know what is going on with apple, i think that they still don't understand that the world is having a financial crisis :confused:
    350$ for a stupid graphic card, i mean wtf!!!!!
    pc's gets more options and better prices, why apple don't have something that it's could "Why whould You Hate A Mac!!":-
    1_ NO Graphic Cards!
    2_ NO Cool Games on MacOSX Only on Bootcamp Windows.
    3_ We Don't Call our Mac's Pc's but we still run Windows on Bootcamp :confused: So that they can save our A$$
    4_ NO SLI only CROSSFIRE, also if it needs high amount of energy then Forget it!!! and don't forget that crossfire is not avaliable on macosx, only on bootcamp windows so thanks to windows for saving our A$$ again :p
    I hope apple changes there business way to their costumers and try to be more easy on the prices and more graphic cards options!!!
     
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    1. So none of the computers boot up... ever?
    2. COD4, Spore, et al beg to differ.
    3. Okay... I don't. I don't need Windows at all.
    4. This is nVidia's doing, not Apple's.

    Not happening.
     
  19. MacVidCards thread starter Suspended

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    Hey, nice to see you here. Your 9800GTX trick worked for a 9800GX2....but with the 2 cores showing up as separate GX2 cards on the Mac Pro.

    I was hopeful that your 4870 trick would work like the 9800 trick....NO EFI NEEDED.

    Just need to get that ROM.

    But on behalf on the community, thanks for your efforts in OSX.
     
  20. netkas macrumors 65816

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    ATI cards will not work this way (like nvidia)

    ATI card has to be initialized by bios/efi rom before it can be used by osx driver

    So, in this case hackintoshers has less headache :)
     
  21. slughead macrumors 68040

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    You can't do that, I don't think they have an adapter that goes DVI -> mini
     
  22. slughead macrumors 68040

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    False: Spore sucks.

    I don't know why you would make games for OS X... seems like a LOT of effort to make a game that runs just fine on the system if people would just reboot.

    Apple still makes money even if I don't use OS X for gaming--as long as I use apple hardware.

    Therefore, they shouldn't charge us crazy-markups on video cards.
     

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