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another couple of thoughts since my last post.

I think maybe the fact that there are so many colors is what's bugging me. Since it's radon, and the red icon is very cool, maybe all the buttons could be red instead of rainbow lifesavers?

Perhaps the website tagline should also be changed... since I'm not sure if "the successor to the tominated browser" is really a strong selling point. I tried the tominated browser a year ago, and I know what it is, but I doubt it's going to click with very many people.

The link to forgotten software is also broken on the site.
 
another couple of thoughts since my last post.

I think maybe the fact that there are so many colors is what's bugging me. Since it's radon, and the red icon is very cool, maybe all the buttons could be red instead of rainbow lifesavers?

Perhaps the website tagline should also be changed... since I'm not sure if "the successor to the tominated browser" is really a strong selling point. I tried the tominated browser a year ago, and I know what it is, but I doubt it's going to click with very many people.

The link to forgotten software is also broken on the site.

i don't red is a good color, it all sounds nice, but it isn't usefull. A not-flashy color like white or grey are better.
 
Hello All,
could you all please redirect your Icon issues to
tominated@gmail.com

They are his icons and he would like to here the problems you are having.

The website is also his concern. The website is being revamped soon and i will see what i can do.

As for the forgotten software link, my website is down right now.

The updater problem is addressed and will be fixed with the next updaet within the next few days. There is a manual fix to the problem, contact me if you are in a hurry.

I laughed pretty hard when you said "life savers", because it is so true.

Red icons..........Not a bad idea

Also,
The Radon icon was made for us by some guy going by the name of Iconbottle. We like it too

:)

Thanks for Your Feedback,
LOgan Cooke
 
I must say, I'm unexpectedly impressed. From the other comments in this thread, I didn't really expect it to be that great, but this thing is fast! I found a javascript test online to try, and it blew everything else out of the water.

Edit: Actually, that was an older test. With the new one, it came out a bit different.

Opera:396ms
Radon:405ms
Safari:465ms
Shiira:472ms
Firefox:613ms
Camino:703ms
Flock:827ms

So, it's just a hair slower than Opera. Which is still very impressive, considering it still smokes Firefox and beats Safari by a good bit.

Test
 
I must say, I'm unexpectedly impressed. From the other comments in this thread, I didn't really expect it to be that great, but this thing is fast! I found a javascript test online to try, and it blew everything else out of the water.

Edit: Actually, that was an older test. With the new one, it came out a bit different.

Opera:396ms
Radon:405ms
Safari:465ms
Shiira:472ms
Firefox:613ms
Camino:703ms
Flock:827ms

So, it's just a hair slower than Opera. Which is still very impressive, considering it still smokes Firefox and beats Safari by a good bit.

Test

Many thanks for testing this & posting them,i saw your first post and thought blimey id better pm you as your right Radon is quick but not that quick.Anyway please ignore the pm,the link now works so i'll try some testing there also


thanks again

Neil
 
I must say, I'm unexpectedly impressed. From the other comments in this thread, I didn't really expect it to be that great, but this thing is fast! I found a javascript test online to try, and it blew everything else out of the water.
Test

Webkit nightly 285ms average

Here is a slightly more involved test.
 
Things I would like:
  • Tabs
  • Bookmarks
  • Smaller icons
  • Change the prefs window to something not translucent

But it does feel fast. :)
 

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Nahh. Well, I wouldn't call this a browser ready for release yet. I guess it's alright, but it doesn't even seem fast to me.
I like how the preferences are in HUD though - hold on to that idea.
Also, the buttons.. You could perhaps use the 'Danish' stock icons by Jonas Rask? Idunno.
 
Once again thanks for trying out Radon your input is greatly appreciated,Merlish do you have a link to these danish icons?

To anyone who's still thinking about trying Radon,please give it a go and post your views

Neil
 
Those Icons are sweet! Ill defintly make them an option for the toolbar. Also, I have got rid of the HUD windows for the next update. Too mnay people didn't like it (although I kept it in my personal version!). The next update is very soon coming.
 
Those Icons are sweet! Ill defintly make them an option for the toolbar. Also, I have got rid of the HUD windows for the next update. Too mnay people didn't like it (although I kept it in my personal version!). The next update is very soon coming.

Yah, i personally dont see why people dislike the transparent windows. The transparency doesnt make it any harder to read for me, and it looks REALLY cool. IDK, maybe i just got good vision, or im tolerant to changes like that.
 
no flash!!!! was ok though neds plugins..

may slowdown when fully functioning????
 
Before I install it.....sell me as to what advantage this browser might have over Safari, FF or Opera? If there is nothing unique about it, not interested.
 
* Unexpected behavior resizing the window - graphics get shifted all over the place - big problem here
* No key command to type in a new URL - I use this all the time in Safari/Firefox
* No status bar - would like to see what a link goes to
* Found it slower than Safari/Firefox

* Using Tiger version
 
* Unexpected behavior resizing the window - graphics get shifted all over the place - big problem here
* No key command to type in a new URL - I use this all the time in Safari/Firefox
* No status bar - would like to see what a link goes to
* Found it slower than Safari/Firefox

* Using Tiger version
If im not mistaken (i can't confirm this) but I believe the developer mentioned the Tiger version will lack some things, and due to that it'll be a bit slower.

Idk if theres anything that can be done about that... quite honestly it's my understanding that Tiger won't be 100% supported. Sorry, but this is a browser that will be used in the future (hopefully lots) so why should we dwell on old OS's?

Anyways those words aren't directly from the developer thats just how i feel, but developer may have a different idea.

Before I install it.....sell me as to what advantage this browser might have over Safari, FF or Opera? If there is nothing unique about it, not interested.


Ya know what... right now, dont install it, expecting it to beat Safari/FF/Opera... at least not right now.

I hate saying this over and over again like a broken record, but Radon ain't at it's final version in any way. At the moment, best thing I could say is it's actually faster... then Safari/FF... and VERY close to the same speed as Opera.

But i dont want you to install this, expecting it to pwn firefox/FF/Opera... then once it doesn't have you dissapointed and then losing faith in this browser. I want you to realise it will only get better from here as more features are added.
 
If im not mistaken (i can't confirm this) but I believe the developer mentioned the Tiger version will lack some things, and due to that it'll be a bit slower.

Idk if theres anything that can be done about that... quite honestly it's my understanding that Tiger won't be 100% supported. Sorry, but this is a browser that will be used in the future (hopefully lots) so why should we dwell on old OS's?

Anyways those words aren't directly from the developer thats just how i feel, but developer may have a different idea.

Then they should remove the Tiger version of the software if it's not the same as the Leopard version. "Dwell on old OS's"? Take a poll of what OS dominates the Apple market. You may find that the "old OS's" are in the majority.
 
no flash!!!! was ok though neds plugins..

may slowdown when fully functioning????

Hmm.. thats very strange,

Flash works on my copy. Basically to my understanding, if you have flash installed into Safari (webkit)

you will have flash in radon.

But Im sure thats over simplifying things.

But i CAN say for certain that flash DOES work in Radon. During my beta testing I basically used Radon instead of safari for pretty much a whole day. Quite frankly everything was exactly the same (with the exception of Gmail :( ) I'll remind you i do go to websites that require flash, like youtube.com , or southparkzone.com. So im quite unsure whats wrong with Radon for you, I'm gonna hope the developer will come along and give you an answer, cause... well you've stumped me. :p


BTW, sorry everyone for the triple post... i dont quite know how to merge posts on this forum and i had alot of people to reply to.

Then they should remove the Tiger version of the software if it's not the same as the Leopard version. "Dwell on old OS's"? Take a poll of what OS dominates the Apple market. You may find that the "old OS's" are in the majority.

You have infallible logic there. In fact, i hardly have a decent answer for you. Which i hate to admit.

But heres what i will say:

People, who want to be in on the future of new software, new applications, and just having their computer able to function with everything. Well those people bought, and upgraded to leopard. Makes sense, right?

Well... thats what im getting at, if you want 100% full features, and stuff, then thats what leopard is good for.

Reason some things are left out of Tiger, is (this what the developer told me)

Some things cannot be done in tiger, simply because, well tiger doesn't support them.

Now when the developer realised this, he had a few choices. Heres what the choices were:

1) Release a Tiger version without the features that tiger doesn't support, while releasing a leopard version WITH those features alongside.

2) Leave those features out altogether but only having 1 version for both Tiger, and Leopard

3) Just drop the Tiger version and not support Tiger version at all.

Quite frankly I think the developer made the best of the three choices.
 
You have infallible logic there. In fact, i hardly have a decent answer for you. Which i hate to admit.

But heres what i will say:

People, who want to be in on the future of new software, new applications, and just having their computer able to function with everything. Well those people bought, and upgraded to leopard. Makes sense, right?

Well... thats what im getting at, if you want 100% full features, and stuff, then thats what leopard is good for.

Reason some things are left out of Tiger, is (this what the developer told me)

Some things cannot be done in tiger, simply because, well tiger doesn't support them.

Now when the developer realised this, he had a few choices. Heres what the choices were:

1) Release a Tiger version without the features that tiger doesn't support, while releasing a leopard version WITH those features alongside.

2) Leave those features out altogether but only having 1 version for both Tiger, and Leopard

3) Just drop the Tiger version and not support Tiger version at all.

Quite frankly I think the developer made the best of the three choices.

I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment of wanting to be "in on the future of new software." Anyway, the developer certainly has the right to do what they want - no arguments on that one. But why release a piece of software that kind of works? That will run, but not function correctly? I would suggest the developer stick with the third option.

I'll stop commenting on this thread or providing feedback as the Tiger version is not designed to work properly. I apologize for mucking up this thread. Good luck!
 
I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment of wanting to be "in on the future of new software." Anyway, the developer certainly has the right to do what they want - no arguments on that one. But why release a piece of software that kind of works? That will run, but not function correctly? I would suggest the developer stick with the third option.

I'll stop commenting on this thread or providing feedback as the Tiger version is not designed to work properly. I apologize for mucking up this thread. Good luck!

I think I have mis-explained myself.

I didn't in anyway mean to say the Tiger version is only kind of functioning... or it's only kind of designed to work properly. When I said we don't fully support it, I shouldn't have said that (I apologize, I that is probably where I explained myself wrong giving you the wrong idea), because I myself and I'm sure others will listen and reply to your issues in the tiger version just as if it's the Leopard version.

Come to think of it, way i SHOULD have put it would be something like this.

the Tiger version DOES function and it DOES work... it just doesn't have some features because Tiger, the OS itself doesn't support them.

So by this, it's sorta like saying.

Leopard has quickview,

So when your using Tiger, you dont have quickview (because, Leopard is the future, and most recent technology, while Tiger isn't anymore, so some features and abilities Leopard has but Tiger is missing)

That doesn't mean Tiger is broken, or that Tiger is no good, or that apple wont support you with Tiger. It simply means, you dont have a few features in Tiger, that you would in Leopard.

You didn't much this thread up btw.. (althouhg im sure you may have said that to make me feel bad) your opinions on the Tiger version are just as valid as anyone elses opinion. For gosh sake, most people dont even state whether or not they are using Tiger or Leopard version. so anything else you have to say about Radon your fully welcome to say them.

I hope i managed, to clear things up between us. :)
 
Ok,
Now it is the developer's turn to chime in

1. FLASH IS BROKEN. IDK why right now, working hard to fix it
2. Tiger Version is disappointing. For me even. I don't have tiger. Few people I know have tiger. That means it was untestable. I built it in leopard, tested it in leopard. Everything was good. But when i used it for the first time in Tiger, i was very angry. So, I apologize for everyone that has Tiger, but I am seeing Radon as a Leopard Application. But, Tiger version does work. Just....Not Like the Leopard Version. Today I did a lot of work top bring the Tiger version up to higher standards. As a matter of fact, i got flash working in the Tiger Version.
3. I am torn on the transparent windows. I am contemplating making it into a preference. But for now, no Transparent windows.
4. To tominated: Your email is public. You need to support your product. ;)
and Finally
Radon 1.5.1 has been released. Many GUI fixes, more buttons (including safari buttons), and many bug fixes (not including flash)

BTW: Could everyone please comment about radon on macupdate!
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26763/radon-browser
Star ratings would be nice
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