What exactly was unclear in my use of the word "HAVE TO"? Of course Apple offeres many custumization possiblities behind the scene, but most people could use OSX perfectly without even knowing of them.
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What exactly was unclear in my use of the word "HAVE TO"? Of course Apple offeres many custumization possiblities behind the scene, but most people could use OSX perfectly without even knowing of them.
Yeah, I know that feeling. Let's face it, we are old dinosaurs who are not used to the current neglect from apple. In the good old days, there was always a frenzy of excitement even when the app store went down, never mind the Jobs keynotes. We're a minority now, and that's not going to change any time soon.
I remember a long time ago when Microsoft dominated and seemed invincible to competition. I can see apple going the same way at some point. Time will tell.
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All great civilisations and great companies rise and fall at some point.
The biggest problem for me is that they scuttled OpenGL development in favor of metal, essentially killing any game development on the Mac. At least for some major game developers.
Most of the audio related apps I use are on the PC side now whereas before the best performance was going to be on the MacOS. It's a toss up at this point.
The focus on thinness, non-maintainability and phones has made even the very best Mac I've ever owned (5k iMac 4.0 ghz Corei7 with 32 gigs of ram) possibly the last of its kind in my household.
Most of the audio related apps I use are on the PC side now whereas before the best performance was going to be on the MacOS. It's a toss up at this point.
The focus on thinness, non-maintainability and phones has made even the very best Mac I've ever owned (5k iMac 4.0 ghz Corei7 with 32 gigs of ram) possibly the last of its kind in my household.
Love this thread! Though I, admittedly, only read the first page. I agree with the OP. But instead of buying a Windows box, my next computer will be a hackintosh. I may go dual boot for gaming. Not sure what I'll do for laptops in a few years when my Air can no longer cut it.
Can't see the point of hackintosh since the rise of W10. It's such a good OS in it's own right. A few years ago hackintosh was a good alternative i.e. when MS still had their head up their backside, but it's now simply not necessary. I've been using OS X for the last decade or so but I don't see as I would miss it at all now if I moved to W10 full time.
I agree 100%. Windows for 18 years. Mac for 3.5 years, back to Windows and loving it. About the only thing that would bring me back would be a truly stunning Mac mini. Not likely at this point. Not even close.
I still find a few of the mac mini threads here to be my favorite all around tech forum/people. I learn alot and things are very entertaining all the time
Exactly same experience for me and even though every user will have their unique preferences of how an OS is supposed to help them get their work done and be productive, constantly defending either OSX or Windows 10 does not help either user environment or developer.
Or even allow a new type of user to try the different OS, as the experience is forced on to them to try it out.
The mass market unfortunately judges too quickly or are like sheep and listen to mainstream media about what they need to buy instead of trying to learn it themselves as you said.
I perform my legal work on OSX and Windows 10 and for me Windows 10 is the winner as it is simply more fluid and this is based on the work you have to perform and setting aside biased perceptions.
However iCloud Drive is very efficient in syncing documents and can drag and drop applications better than One Drive.
Users can enjoy drinking coffee and tea.
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The laptop I bought is an HP Spectre and the desktop is an HP ProDesk 600 that I customized a bit (upgraded the CPU, storage, and RAM). Both are of very high quality. The keyboard on the Spectre I find to be much better than the MacBook I had before, but I am quite happy with both of them. I don't really miss the Macs I had before.
You know what? This is great to see... "why?" I hear you ask. Because it means I'm not alone. Thank goodness! I have been an "Apple Everything" owner since 2003 when I bought my first G4 iMac (what a beaut' that bad boy was).
So here's my story: I'm in the market for a new home computer - I have the iPhone (6S), I have the iPad (Air) - unfortunately I also have a very temperamental and ageing MacBook Pro (Late 2010 15"). It needs to be put to pasture (although it is strange that this laptop is pretty much the same age and spec. as my work Dell laptop which probably cost a fraction of the price - yet my MBP is dying on its feet, my Dell is still going strong - I'll chalk it up to luck perhaps!).
So the long and short is that I need a new Mac - as it happens, I'm actually not adverse to buying an iMac (good for the kids etc.). I was contemplati perhaps ditching Mac after all these years because I might end up paying an extra 20-30% for an equivalent spec. than I would for a PC - but actually you know what, I like the OS and the machines are as much a style statement as a functional piece of kit.... OK what the hell, I'll wait it out (not getting burnt by that again!).
So here's the rub. I live in the UK - so whilst I'm waiting: Cue "Brexit" (not something I voted for I might add - but this is not a political rant, so let's park that for a second). The pound tumbles as people question whether our economy... well you get it... let's move on! Now I don't doubt that Brexit has had an effect and that imports have become more expensive. But our friends of Apple slap an arbitrary 20% price hike on top of everything! Now the pound hadn't fallen that much, in addition stock was already in the country - so an 18 month old iMac which was on the shelf in the local apple store when they closed their doors on that evening, was suddenly 20% more expensive when they opened the door to store the following day.
The message to "Joe Consumer" in the UK? Clearly - even with your deep pockets Apple - you care a jot about your users here in the UK. An equivalent PC is now almost half the price or your iMac. So the reality is that instead of accepting a slightly smaller margin from me (and there are others I promise you), you get 0. Because I won't be buying another Mac. But here's the other part - I have considered switching from iPhone on the odd occasion - but the holy trinity has always kept me tied in. And you know what, I have been fine with that. Break that holy trinity and I just might not choose a new iPhone... or a new iPad. And guess what your regular income of £15.99/mo for Music and £6.99/mo for iCloud would also no longer be needed.
I feel aggrieved that I should need to make this decision - as has already been said. Is it better? Yes. Is it 4 times, 3 times even 2 times better - definitely not. The innovation is no longer there to make Apple the must have. Poor show... I only wish you cared!
Thanks for the info. It helps. I am waiting to receive the HP 27 Envy 4K AIO. There is a sweet deal going on right now that actually lead me to cancel the original order and replace it - plus I made some configuration changes. Not to hijack the threat, but to anyone interested, here are the details:
27" 4K Display
i7 7700T
GTX 950
2TB HDD
256 SSD
16GB RAM
List price: $1,994
20% off code: VIPFEB20DT
Paid: $1,595
This is hard to beat. I read with interested the entire tread. I think the OP has nailed it by saying that OS X is better BUT not that much better and that is exactly how I made my decision. Is the OS X $1,000-$1500 worth of better? No... it is not.
The alternative was to get 3/4 of the basic iMac at this price. Since I love the Surface Pro 4, I decided to start moving away from Apple for the time being until they decide to get serious about computers again. I'll still plug the rMB into the HDMI port and use the Envy's monitor for a while. It's hard to undo well over a decade on OS X, but we'll see how things go.
Feel free to use the code, everyone. It's good until the 11th and works on almost any custom built.
I'd argue that this ended in 2013 when Jony Ive started stepping in and flattening/stupiding OSX while Tim Cook focused on learning how to try to look natural wearing black turtlenecks instead of reigning in Jony.
Well if you want Mac OS to get CoreAudio I guess building Hackintosh could be an option. But.... how much more hassle will the Windows audio drivers and routing be compared to maintaining a Hackintosh-system? To me it makes more sense to just pay the Apple tax or fight it out in Windows.
I think "mobility" in general is seen as a form of "competence" in terms of today. I'm a 30-year Telecom professional and VoIP is a similar paradigm where the quality of service has to be propped up to support the features and yet it's everywhere. I think desktop users are seen as stagnant and inflexible irrespective of the complexity of the work we do. Jony Ive sees the world somewhat like Trump see the world - "The world is mine - it will bend to my vision" - so in effect we have to wait for the next administration which could take a decade or so.
I also think the computer industry in general is going the way of Radio Shack ... who repairs, who builds, who delves into the workings of things anymore ... and truthfully as technology evolves the physical compression follows to the point where things can't be repaired in a cost-effective manner they get replaced.
AOL and Yahoo aren't exactly struggling, geez. Apple are only getting bigger, not smaller.
I have done it for an extended list of friends and family, for years. That's why I recommended Macs for the longest time - you could get a machine that fits now, and grow it over time with RAM and storage, as needed. Now that Apple solders/glues everything for thinness on the portables and pure profit on the desktops(see 2014 Mac Mini downgrade), I can no longer recommend Macs, to those who cost is a major factor.
I"m hoping for a revamped Mac Mini that is not 100% consumer hostile, but I'm not holding my breath.
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The Maker set is growing nowadays, however they're more interested in Raspberry Pi and Arduino than Mac or Win.
Radio Shack's down, but Digikey, Mouser etc etc etc, have taken over this hobbyist market. Neither Apple or Microsoft appear to want people who make stuff. They're far too intrigued with a walled garden money flow.
Having built Heathkits thru the 70's and 80's, it's nice to see electronic hobbycraft making a comeback.
Used to be you could buy anything you wanted from China for $10. Now folks are building their own electroencephalographs, which are expensive, even if you could buy hem from China.
The Mac's place in this? Close to nowhere, which is why I have a Windows machine sitting next to my current Raspberry.
Damn HeathKit ... you just dated yourself but I'll raise ya with Lafayette's
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See ... that's exactly the mindset that's at work here ... we had a pathway to aspire towards ... they had amplifier kits in multiple levels with bigger gains ... we always wanted more and there was "headroom" to grow ... the technology was forgiving .... you could resolder a board many times to get it right ... tubes gave us warm, elastic and dynamic sound and tolerance to fluctuating issues like current and shorts. Now ... well now it's unheard of in the Apple kingdom to get your hands dirty ... cute little buttons and emoji's and well you know... tryin' not to say it ... but men tend to take things apart.