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Recording feature found on new iPods!
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Is there a technical reason the line-out can't function also as a line in? In other words, plug in a mic. instead of headphones, and you're recording. The only thing you can't do is monitor the recording itself.
male-to-male recording?
Hey all,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn 't it be possible to connect the mac's sound out to the headphone jack and then (for instance) record streaming radio? Cuz that could be fun.
Sort of a throw-back to the old recording radio onto a casette tape, only with digital quality
Hey all,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn 't it be possible to connect the mac's sound out to the headphone jack and then (for instance) record streaming radio? Cuz that could be fun.
Sort of a throw-back to the old recording radio onto a casette tape, only with digital quality 
technically, the ADC doesn't care and you could rig them up together. this is however very unusual in the electronics world if only because it's something of a quasi standard to have the jacks seperated.
besides this, according the article, the headphone jack is a mono in and the special dock connector has pins for stereo in.
think about it
think about it: the old remote had the exact same amount of buttons... and it had:
the 3 pins on the rod
+
1 out side loop wire surrounding the center rod
=
4 total
the new remote:
3 on rod
+
4 on the separate one
that's 3 extra!!!!!
think about it: the old remote had the exact same amount of buttons... and it had:
the 3 pins on the rod
+
1 out side loop wire surrounding the center rod
=
4 total
the new remote:
3 on rod
+
4 on the separate one
that's 3 extra!!!!!
Not in there...
Hey, check this out. It turns out a guy hacked his old iPod remote and outlined the connector on the old remote. Turns out there are 6 (not 4) contact areas. There are two metal circles, one is just difficult to see as it is inside the outer circle.
Check it out here. http://www.maushammer.com/systems/ipod-remote/ipod-remote.html
I dont' think the new ports for headphones/remote would support a mic (since there's really only one additional contact now). I think it would either be a new cable that is a female 1/8 or 1/4 stereo plug into a plug that fit the bottom port of the iPod. OR, Apple would introduce a new dock or both or you could record through the existing line out port on the dock.
Hey, check this out. It turns out a guy hacked his old iPod remote and outlined the connector on the old remote. Turns out there are 6 (not 4) contact areas. There are two metal circles, one is just difficult to see as it is inside the outer circle.
Check it out here. http://www.maushammer.com/systems/ipod-remote/ipod-remote.html
I dont' think the new ports for headphones/remote would support a mic (since there's really only one additional contact now). I think it would either be a new cable that is a female 1/8 or 1/4 stereo plug into a plug that fit the bottom port of the iPod. OR, Apple would introduce a new dock or both or you could record through the existing line out port on the dock.
Well, 80 minutes is roughly 700 megs. Do the math. The advantage is that you can dump it right to your main computer to do edits. So, for me, recording a rehearsal or performace requires me to dump my MiniDisc to the computer then I can edit. So, I have to essentially play back the whole concert. With an iPod, I'd hook up the firewire, and boom, it's there to be edited.
That's a good and logical explanation (though I don't understand all the technical details). But then why do the iPod's headphones themselves (the portion that goes to your ears and does not include the remote) only have 3 metallic areas separated by two rings? (no digital camera to show you a picture).
I don't really know much about the tech details, but since blackcrayon reported some level of success recording using his headphones, wouldn't that indicate that you could plug a microphone into the same jack?
What about video?
Hmmmmmm
1) huge amount of space on the iPod
2) Firewire/USB2.0/USB1.1 Connection via pinout on bottom
3) 8Hrs of run time
This may be part of Uncle Steve's plan to allow us to hook one up a mic OR to our DV camcorders or a camera attachment and record some audio/video?
Also with the addition of USB 2.0 (bkwds compatible with USB 1.1) this could be hooked up to a USB Digital camera for guiltless shooting of stills...
these are exciting times...
Meow!
Hmmmmmm
1) huge amount of space on the iPod
2) Firewire/USB2.0/USB1.1 Connection via pinout on bottom
3) 8Hrs of run time
This may be part of Uncle Steve's plan to allow us to hook one up a mic OR to our DV camcorders or a camera attachment and record some audio/video?
Also with the addition of USB 2.0 (bkwds compatible with USB 1.1) this could be hooked up to a USB Digital camera for guiltless shooting of stills...
these are exciting times...
Meow!
Whether you count metal parts or plastic parts the end result is the same because the plastic seperates the metal. So if you have 2 plastic stripes you'll have 3 metal sections. 6 to one, half dozen to another. For stereo sound you'll have 2 plastic strips. The first section of metal (the tip) is used just to "lock" the jack in place. The next two sections of metal are what carries the signals. The only time I've seen a mini-jack seperated w/3 rings is on some MiniDV cameras that use one jack to i/o both audio and video from a single port.
Lethal
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Hmm... an iPod with recording features could be very useful. Recording lectures would be great.
In fact......
Professors should actually record themselves and make their MP3s available on their college's website.
Hmm... an iPod with recording features could be very useful. Recording lectures would be great.
In fact......
Professors should actually record themselves and make their MP3s available on their college's website.
Just tried it with a new 15GB. Set to record and talk into the earbuds. I heard my own voice on my iPod!!!
Diagnostic mode is same buttons as old ones.
<edit>Go to test "D", press the center button and say something in the left bud. You get a "rumble-tapping" in the right ear.
This is fun. Just noticed, as the 'Pod goes into diagnostic mode, the Apple logo is backwards
Diagnostic mode is same buttons as old ones.
<edit>Go to test "D", press the center button and say something in the left bud. You get a "rumble-tapping" in the right ear.
This is fun. Just noticed, as the 'Pod goes into diagnostic mode, the Apple logo is backwards
Yes, it does work though the headphones as well as line in. It also works with non-Apple headphones. I can't find a way to save the files though.
Cool! I can plug two pairs of headphones into my mic and line in ports and do karaoke through sound card!
New Connector = New Use
Has anyone tried the old iPod remote (no tab) on the new iPod? It should work just fine. The old iPod did not have/need this connector...the remote used the same extended length plug.
Just curious...I'm thinking that the new connector is for something else in the future.
A microphone would be the most logical...and if you use the remote cable, a microphone can be plugged into it and used as a lapel mike! That is why the remote has the "tab" connector...
Has anyone tried the old iPod remote (no tab) on the new iPod? It should work just fine. The old iPod did not have/need this connector...the remote used the same extended length plug.
Just curious...I'm thinking that the new connector is for something else in the future.
A microphone would be the most logical...and if you use the remote cable, a microphone can be plugged into it and used as a lapel mike! That is why the remote has the "tab" connector...
finally someone's found a way to do karaoke without irritating the crap out of everyone else around them!
Keep up the good work - we're counting on you!
That would account for the tab...moving the extra connectors off of the large outer /inner rings to the side connector.
The new iPod is thin...the firewire port and the original all-in-one headphone/remote port had to be modified.
Thx zac4mac for the info!
The new iPod is thin...the firewire port and the original all-in-one headphone/remote port had to be modified.
Thx zac4mac for the info!
There are normally two metal sections for stereo (tip, ring) with a plastic connector separating the two.
For "balanced" connections, there are three (tip, ring, sleeve) with two plastic parts separating them.
The latter allows sound to pass both directions, as in balanced studio setups.
The fourth section could be any new signal that apple wants to send to/from the iPod, there is no way to tell which direction. We'll just have to wait and see, but quad cable is definitely being used.
For "balanced" connections, there are three (tip, ring, sleeve) with two plastic parts separating them.
The latter allows sound to pass both directions, as in balanced studio setups.
The fourth section could be any new signal that apple wants to send to/from the iPod, there is no way to tell which direction. We'll just have to wait and see, but quad cable is definitely being used.