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You should try living away from the city some time, preferably in the middle of nowhere where renting is dirt cheap. I have a relative that pays $390 a month to rent a 3-bedroom house. And yes I do mean a house.

how's his/her app development/professional networking/upward mobility coming along?
 
Apple doesn't even like redacted copy...

Apple doesn't even like redacted copy in their apps...

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I actually wish I had a decent app like this... but for iPhone. I know there are variants/alternatives out there but so far I'm yet to find one which works easily and seamlessly with opening a photo from my Camera Roll, using blur/black box/pixelate, and then saving it or uploading it directly. I'd even pay for it. Currently I've tried a few and they have serious issues like the output file quality is crap, the blurring tools have to be done precisely the first time and you can't move it around (i.e. you have to start over if you make a mistake) or there are adds which are disruptive, it's difficult to share/upload the image where you want it to go afterwards (no, I don't want to create a new FB Album just for this with the name of the app) or they're just unstable.

Based on the videos, this one actually looks quite good and the UI is clean.
 
I had an app ranked #1 in the paid sports category for about 4 weeks, and it barely made $100 a day.

That's pretty discouraging... Especially when you consider how much you could get paid for developping a similar application for a business, either as a freelance or as an employee, rather than selling it directly to the public...
 
That, or that five bucks for something that a particular is unlikely to be use more than once a month is quite steep. It's an app that does only one thing, after all...
Agreed. The Dutch government (Rijksoverheid) offers a free App Store app that does exactly the same thing called "KopieID" [CopyID]. Not entirely sure why I would pay € 5 for an alternative Mac app.

Also, you can do the same thing with Pixelmator (or something similar) which I bought years ago for € 14 and received major app updates for free ever since. Obviously it's of much better value than buying a one-tick pony like this.
 

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He sold about 100 copies in a day. That ranked him at #8. That sounds reasonable, given how many applications there are in various categories.

This sounds raisonnable for a one man team. But the developer is not really important. What is important is what it means for the future of Mac App development...
Now, imagine, instead of a single developer, this is a real company, doing high end softwares. A company like Omnigraffle for instance. They spend a year working on an application, involving developers, graphic designers, UX experts... And in the end, they rank #8 in the Mac App Store and their work earns them $100 a day - barely enough to pay the accountant of the company...


What this proves is that the Mac App Store, and ultimately Map apps development, is a one dollar-shop business, because the only viable applications are cheap useless ones. Just like in any one-dollar shop. Complex useful applications just cost too much and earn too little...
 
I actually wish I had a decent app like this... but for iPhone. I know there are variants/alternatives out there but so far I'm yet to find one which works easily and seamlessly with opening a photo from my Camera Roll, using blur/black box/pixelate, and then saving it or uploading it directly. I'd even pay for it. Currently I've tried a few and they have serious issues like the output file quality is crap, the blurring tools have to be done precisely the first time and you can't move it around (i.e. you have to start over if you make a mistake) or there are adds which are disruptive, it's difficult to share/upload the image where you want it to go afterwards (no, I don't want to create a new FB Album just for this with the name of the app) or they're just unstable.

Based on the videos, this one actually looks quite good and the UI is clean.
See my post above. The Dutch government offers one. The app is bilingual (Dutch / English). Not sure if you can download it from the Australian App Store though. But maybe it's worth the try. :)

https://itunes.apple.com/nl/app/kopieid/id932970330?mt=8

PS Well, it's at the very least available in the US App Store.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kopieid/id932970330?mt=8
 
If it's a hobby then you're an average musician. So, you're right. Few will pay for average music.

Frankly, there are so many comments, no only on this forum but all over the place, posted by people with average thinking. This thread has people gloating about $400 rents in the boonies. You should be figuring out how to pay a $4000 rent in an awesome city full of life, opportunity and excitement. Thinking $36,000 a year is doable? Y'all ought to be shooting for $360,000. When you do get there then go for millions.

Or… stay average. Stay comfortable.

I'd rather gouge my eyes out than live in any "awesome city".
 
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An annualized revenue of $110k for a $5 app that does nothing but let you draw black rectangles (or blurs, or pixelate) parts of an image? That sounds remarkably good to me...

Even with sales falling off, it sounds like he did pretty well for an afternoon's work.

I'd say you're missing the point. The point isn't about this poor developer and how hard he's having it; the point is how barren and forgotten the Mac AppStore is.

It doesn't have most of the key Apps most Mac users use every day - things like Skype, Office, etc. Some of the Apps which I used to own via the MAS have actually migrated away from it because of sandboxing restrictions which even close work with Apple couldn't solve (e.g. Coda).

I use Sublime Text quite a lot. If it was on the MAS, I would pay for it and the developer would earn a living from his hard work. As it is, it's too awkward for me to donate and I'm more comfortable being a customer than a donor. That developer hasn't seen any money from me, which is a shame because I pay for plenty of Apps which I value much less.

I don't know why he hasn't uploaded it, why Microsoft hasn't uploaded Skype, etc, but that's a big reason why the AppStore is so barren: it's irrelevant. New users shouldn't go to the MAS and expect to find the Apps to get them started.

It's a forgotten wasteland. It's missing many of the features from the other iTunes stores: you can't even gift Apps, for example. I tried to gift a copy of The Sims to my sister and there's just no way.

Yeah, the Mac AppStore is a barren place where nobody finds what they want and utility Apps like this one can enter the top charts. It's Apple's fault - they haven't kept the store up-to-date, and they haven't done enough to ensure that new users can quickly get themselves setup with the most commonly used Mac applications straight from one place.
 
No, I didn't miss any point. Nobody wants to pay for anything therefore it takes very little revenue to make it to the top. Where is the surprise in this? Where is the point I missed? Of course it's going to be easy to get to the top putting a halfway interesting app out there.

So you already knew that $302 first day profit would get an app into the top 10? This is a surprise to a lot of people.

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I'd take $302 in profit for something that any person with half a brain could do for free in MS Paint. lol.

Guess you don't buy many apps ;)
 
i don't get it at all.
  1. when would anyone ever need to redact things?
  2. when would anyone who redacts things not know how to use simple editing software?
  3. even preview does this easily

When i consider how dumb the average person is, and consider that half of mankind is even more stupid than that... i get it.

You could probably make a lot of money by creating an "off switch" app for the mac. Or a "mirror" app...
 
Clearly it's not worth anyone's time to develop for the desktop App Store to make a living on the application sales.
 
Apple should be worried

Apple has inadvertently created a race to the bottom in both app stores. In the long run this will hurt the platform since independent devs will not bother building cool stuff. This is exactly why iPad sales are in decline. Good apps are rarely updated and new ones don't replace the old. There's a lot of junk apps but few that have been iterated through a maturing process that is the hallmark of great apps.
 
Just goes to show how many people actually use the Mac App Store. Not very many.

I have never purchased an app in the app store. The only apps that I have were free like Twitter or I got a coupon code for them and even then, I have never used those few apps. I don't even have them installed anymore.

Everything else, I have downloaded from the internet and was free (not illegal).
 
$3000 a month would be the mortgage payment of a Mansion with an estate of land in the Midwest. You'd be lucky to a get a single family home in the suburbs for that here in LA. San Franscico? I wouldn't even try living there.

Yes, but then you have to live in the Midwest. Been there, done that, and never moving back.
 
I'd rather gouge my eyes out than live in any "awesome city".

Agreed. I've never understood why anyone would WANT to be crowded into a small area like sheep with no room to move into a corral only to pay $20 for a sandwich, $3000+ a month for a 400 sq. ft apartment and basically live like they work in some sweatshop in Taiwan despite making $100k a year. It just utterly utterly boggles the mind. That's 'awesome'?

If this were 1920 you'd have an argument.

1920? This is why the rich are 100% out of touch with America. This guy apparently has no idea that well over 50% of our work force in the U.S. makes less than $36k a year (median household income of ~$52k is typically for TWO people working in that house on average).

The median wage in the US per person is $26,695. This tells us a lot since the median household income is at $50,500. Since the Census data looks at households, this data hones in on individual wage earners. 66 percent of Americans earn less than $41,212. (http://www.mybudget360.com/how-much-do-americans-earn-what-is-the-average-us-income/)
 
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Agreed. I've never understood why anyone would WANT to be crowded into a small area like sheep with no room to move into a corral only to pay $20 for a sandwich, $3000+ a month for a 400 sq. ft apartment and basically live like they work in some sweatshop in Taiwan despite making $100k a year. It just utterly utterly boggles the mind. That's 'awesome'?

It's probably for the amazing weather, access to world class cultural experiences, proximity and access to the top schools and colleges, public transit, diversity, professional networking opportunities, and vastly higher wages.

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1920? This is why the rich are 100% out of touch with America. This guy apparently has no idea that well over 50% of our work force in the U.S. makes less than $36k a year (median household income of ~$52k is typically for TWO people working in that house on average).

Is over 50% of our workforce capable of writing software?
 
MacRumors Sales?

Anyone think MacRumors would be willing to share how many apps IT sells from its affiliate link pieces like this?
 
Anyone think MacRumors would be willing to share how many apps IT sells from its affiliate link pieces like this?

It's pretty hilarious. This app that they linked to is the same app that is available under the "Sample Code" section of the OSX Developer site.

Pretty much all this person did was change some of the buttons to use different filters..
 
1920? This is why the rich are 100% out of touch with America. This guy apparently has no idea that well over 50% of our work force in the U.S. makes less than $36k a year

You're making the mistake of mixing income you gain when working in a company and revenues from your own company... This is not the same thing at all..
A salary is something that is constant each month and that ends up in your pocket. Moreover, you get paid when you're on holidays, when you're sick, when you're retired.
A revenue from a business is something you will have a lot to substract from before it ends up in your pockets : revenue taxes, insurance, money for equipment, savings to prepare for holidays, sick days and retirement... When you're self employed, you have to earn around twice what you made as an employee to keep the same standard of living...
 
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