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C'mon Apple. You had me at "14 inch mini-LED backlit display". That's my dream machine right there. I don't need no old-fashioned USB-A or Magsafe plugs bogging down my MacBook and ruining their minimalism! What is this, 2015?
 
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I don't want sounds like a snob or something like that, but if I tell the true about what I think of touchbar?
I think touchbar is only for amateur users or basic users, I mean I do everything with shortcuts or gestures I don't have time to see my keyboard when type, my hand do the job, I feel! the keys, I don't need stop my life to check/see the touchbar to do things.
Good for you. Most users that buy a Mac are “basic users,” or “amateurs.” The ideal customer isn’t a programmer.

Not saying programmers aren’t important, just bringing up a point you don’t seem to recognize.
 
So all the Ive designs are gone.. lol. Even the "FLAT UI" iOS 7.0 is bye bye lol.

Jony Ive is apparently looking thinner and healthier since leaving Apple. Unlike Apple's laptops, perhaps, if these "stick all the legacy ports back on them" rumors are true!
 
I love how something that Apple said was "revolutionary" like 3D touch on iPhone, force touch on Apple Watch, TouchBar on Macbook, were just ditched because in reality they aren't useful. Of course they will never admit that, but its funny to see how Apple was wrong (and how some people defended this).

I mean, just remember when Apple said 3D touch was the next generation of screens. lol.
 
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TouchBar was a terrible design. It required users to look down to the keyboard to press a key. Everything since 2016 was just bad. I'm glad I did not waste money on a macbook all these years.
 
I really hope they do exactly this. Having to replace the whole charger when the cord inevitably wore out was the only real weakness in MagSafe charging before.
I don't understand the rabid love for MagSafe in the first place. Yeah, it was quick and easy to attach / detach, but not really harder to plug in a USB-C cord - into ANY of the four ports.

There are plenty of options for a magnetic insert for USB-C. I picked up two that support USB 3.1 transfer speed, DP, and PD. Cost me $30 total. I didn't get them to protect my Mac from being pulled off the table - cannot actually recall that ever even being a risk before, but YMMV. I use them as a quick and dirty "switch" for my USB-C PD monitor (with speakers, webcam, and wired ethernet) to switch between my work Intel MBP and personal M1 MBA.
 
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Yes! you are the only person in the world that like the Touch Bar.

To me is simply as NO Touch Bar = I'll buy the MacbookPro, TouchBar = I'll buy the Macbook Air.
Serious question to all the people hating the Touch Bar. Most obvious uses of function keys (actually Fn keys, not the brightness and volume keys) are for programmers and some creative apps. How many of you are regularly using the MBP keyboard and not at you desk with the Mac closed and connected to one or more large monitors and full size keyboard and mice?

Since Apple never released a keyboard with Touch Bar - the one thing that really stopped the adoption IMO - you only have options for physical function keys.
 
I like it. Not as useful as I had hoped but it occasionally shows its value. The volume slider is something I use all the time. Still think it has potential but I won't miss it terribly and its demise may help keep the cost reasonable.
And most actions don't require moving your finger from the Touch Bar. Also, my biggest use for the Touch Bar is via Pock. It mirrors the Doc to the Touch Bar so I can autohide the Dock with a longer trigger timer. Makes using the 13" screen that much nicer when on client site away from my desk monitor.
 
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Yes! you are the only person in the world that like the Touch Bar.

To me is simply as NO Touch Bar = I'll buy the MacbookPro, TouchBar = I'll buy the Macbook Air.
if you're going to decide between the Pro and the Air based primarily on the TouchBar then... just buy the Air. Like if you look at improved GPU, CPU, memory, storage, ports, and it's that easy a choice to say "nope... I don't want this because of TouchBar" then you probably don't need the better GPU, CPU, memory, storage or ports...
 
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I don't have any problems with the Touch Bar, in fact, it revealed who much I never used the standard function keys anyway. But if Apple removes it, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either. In regards to this refresh though, sadly, it will be the pass for me. I am sure there are many out there ready to relive 2016 again. I'll catch this one at the tale end of its lifecycle.
 
Jony Ive is apparently looking thinner and healthier since leaving Apple. Unlike Apple's laptops, perhaps, if these "stick all the legacy ports back on them" rumors are true!
The current 16" MBP is bigger, thicker, and heavier than the 15" it replaced and the 14" MBP will be bigger, thicker, and heavier than the 13" it will replace. No legacy ports required.
 
Trying to decide if it's worth waiting for the 14 inch. Budget is a concern. Any chance the 14 inch will start at $1499? If it's going to be starting at $1999 then I'm better off just going with a Macbook Air 16gb ram 512gb due to budget.
I would be willing to bet it will start at $1,799 replacing the current four port models...
 
I can’t help but notice that Apple has finally started to make some sense with their design choices once Jony Ive left. He was a minimalist and push for the removal of all the ports if I remember correctly. Now that he is gone we are back to functional design that can still look good and not be ultra minimalist.
It’s not about “minimalism” it’s about where the puck is going to be next. What do you want / need ? an audio jack? a sd card slot? What about a CD player or floppy drive?. I’m sick of the new apple guys who don’t get anything. Apple was about been ahead, to be smart, to leave behind the status quo. CDs were amazing or so we though, and iTunes came. iPods were too, and then iPhone came. That’s what’s unique about apple, not a bunch of useless / legacy / i_never_asked_for_stuff. The brand for that is called Microsoft and their usual partners are dell, HP, Lenovo between others. Some of their models have usb 2.0, that could be a deal breaker.
 
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It’s not about “minimalism” it’s about where the puck is going to be next. What do you want / need ? an audio jack? a sd card slot? What about a CD player or floppy drive?. I’m sick of the new apple guys who don’t get anything. Apple was about been ahead, to be smart, to leave behind the status quo. CDs were amazing or so we though, and iTunes came. iPods were too, and then iPhone came. That’s what’s unique about apple, not a bunch of useless / legacy / i_never_asked_for_stuff. The brand for that is called Microsoft and their usual partners are dell, HP, Lenovo between others. Some of their models have usb 2.0, that could be a deal breaker.
I mostly agree with @karranz here, but I will say I think there's a happy medium. Yes, Apple has always (well, for several decades now) pushed to be "where the puck is going to be" but they aren't always right. Do I miss my floppy drive? Nope. Not at all. And I never did. They did dump the CD drive quicker than they probably should have. Working as a photographer and videographer who had to actually give stuff to clients meant that I needed to be able to burn disks long after Apple stopped putting them on machines as a standard. Do I need to do it in 2021? Not so much. But in 2018 there were still a lot of clients that needed a disk and not a URL.

Same thing with headphone jacks on the iPhone/iPad. Yeah, sure if I'm at MY house or in MY car, I don't care about having a headphone jack. But if want to take my iPhone to someone else's house and play a song for them... or god forbid I'm in a hotel, at a conference or on an airplane and want to watch a movie with someone, being able to use the technology that 90% of the rest of the world still uses would be nice. It's been 5 years and I still frequently find myself wanting to do that and getting annoyed of having to carry a dongle.
 
If true, the 16 inch would be two years without a refresh.

That's longer than any stretch in recent memory, including the much complained about 2015 to 2016 cycle.
 
Am I really the only person in the world who actually likes the Touch Bar?

Much like the idea of the iPhone replacing physical buttons depending on app context - it's actually useful when compared to a row of utterly useless buttons marked "F". I don't understand the hatred, or why Apple are caving
Thank you I love the touch bar it is so much better than the fn Buttons
 
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And how do you know this.
Ive was an industrial designer. There's no reason to assume he had anything to do with the specific ports anymore than he had anything to do with the specific processor. I mean, maybe someone asked him at a meeting what he thought, but he's exactly as in charge of ports as the guy who designs the keyboard.
 
If MagSafe is indeed back, I just hope they make the cable detachable from the brick so you don't have to throw out the whole charger when the cable fails. Maybe it could be USB-C on one end and MagSafe on the other and they can continue to use the current bricks?

If this thing is real, I may already be looking at trading in my 2020 MacBook Air.
I agree with you on that one. Would definitely make the upgrade worth it.
 
I strongly hope they at least offer a non-touchbar option.

Jumping from the 15" Late 2013 MacBook Pro to a 16" MacBook Pro I HATED the touchbar and I'm glad the 13" M1 Air has the function keys again.

To me the touchbar is a flashy gimmick targeting basic users rather than power users that don't even look at the keyboard when typing.

Exactly, I never look the keyboard when I type, I hate!!! look the touchbar to change things.

Remove the touchbar! or offer a cheaper version without!
 
I'm so torn. I don't really need the power of a Pro, but I also don't want to get the M1 Air and have a 2011-era laptop design for the next few years if something modern is right around the corner.
Pro laptops today are consumer laptops 4 years from now. I never go for "just good enough." Well, I could if I were ok replacing things often, but that's annoying.
 
This render is dumb. Yeah, totally, the MBP is gonna lose half the chassis thickness. Very believable. Where's the room for fans and cooling?
 
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