Good for you. Most users that buy a Mac are “basic users,” or “amateurs.” The ideal customer isn’t a programmer.I don't want sounds like a snob or something like that, but if I tell the true about what I think of touchbar?
I think touchbar is only for amateur users or basic users, I mean I do everything with shortcuts or gestures I don't have time to see my keyboard when type, my hand do the job, I feel! the keys, I don't need stop my life to check/see the touchbar to do things.
So all the Ive designs are gone.. lol. Even the "FLAT UI" iOS 7.0 is bye bye lol.
I don't understand the rabid love for MagSafe in the first place. Yeah, it was quick and easy to attach / detach, but not really harder to plug in a USB-C cord - into ANY of the four ports.I really hope they do exactly this. Having to replace the whole charger when the cord inevitably wore out was the only real weakness in MagSafe charging before.
Serious question to all the people hating the Touch Bar. Most obvious uses of function keys (actually Fn keys, not the brightness and volume keys) are for programmers and some creative apps. How many of you are regularly using the MBP keyboard and not at you desk with the Mac closed and connected to one or more large monitors and full size keyboard and mice?Yes! you are the only person in the world that like the Touch Bar.
To me is simply as NO Touch Bar = I'll buy the MacbookPro, TouchBar = I'll buy the Macbook Air.
And most actions don't require moving your finger from the Touch Bar. Also, my biggest use for the Touch Bar is via Pock. It mirrors the Doc to the Touch Bar so I can autohide the Dock with a longer trigger timer. Makes using the 13" screen that much nicer when on client site away from my desk monitor.I like it. Not as useful as I had hoped but it occasionally shows its value. The volume slider is something I use all the time. Still think it has potential but I won't miss it terribly and its demise may help keep the cost reasonable.
if you're going to decide between the Pro and the Air based primarily on the TouchBar then... just buy the Air. Like if you look at improved GPU, CPU, memory, storage, ports, and it's that easy a choice to say "nope... I don't want this because of TouchBar" then you probably don't need the better GPU, CPU, memory, storage or ports...Yes! you are the only person in the world that like the Touch Bar.
To me is simply as NO Touch Bar = I'll buy the MacbookPro, TouchBar = I'll buy the Macbook Air.
The current 16" MBP is bigger, thicker, and heavier than the 15" it replaced and the 14" MBP will be bigger, thicker, and heavier than the 13" it will replace. No legacy ports required.Jony Ive is apparently looking thinner and healthier since leaving Apple. Unlike Apple's laptops, perhaps, if these "stick all the legacy ports back on them" rumors are true!
The 13" M1BP and the 13" M1BA can have the same GPU, CPU, storage, and ports.... then you probably don't need the better GPU, CPU, memory, storage or ports...
I would be willing to bet it will start at $1,799 replacing the current four port models...Trying to decide if it's worth waiting for the 14 inch. Budget is a concern. Any chance the 14 inch will start at $1499? If it's going to be starting at $1999 then I'm better off just going with a Macbook Air 16gb ram 512gb due to budget.
right... that's sort of my point... if you can spec it the same, and don't care enough about the additional bump of the 16" then just buy the Air.The 13" M1BP and the 13" M1BA can have the same GPU, CPU, storage, and ports.
It’s not about “minimalism” it’s about where the puck is going to be next. What do you want / need ? an audio jack? a sd card slot? What about a CD player or floppy drive?. I’m sick of the new apple guys who don’t get anything. Apple was about been ahead, to be smart, to leave behind the status quo. CDs were amazing or so we though, and iTunes came. iPods were too, and then iPhone came. That’s what’s unique about apple, not a bunch of useless / legacy / i_never_asked_for_stuff. The brand for that is called Microsoft and their usual partners are dell, HP, Lenovo between others. Some of their models have usb 2.0, that could be a deal breaker.I can’t help but notice that Apple has finally started to make some sense with their design choices once Jony Ive left. He was a minimalist and push for the removal of all the ports if I remember correctly. Now that he is gone we are back to functional design that can still look good and not be ultra minimalist.
I mostly agree with @karranz here, but I will say I think there's a happy medium. Yes, Apple has always (well, for several decades now) pushed to be "where the puck is going to be" but they aren't always right. Do I miss my floppy drive? Nope. Not at all. And I never did. They did dump the CD drive quicker than they probably should have. Working as a photographer and videographer who had to actually give stuff to clients meant that I needed to be able to burn disks long after Apple stopped putting them on machines as a standard. Do I need to do it in 2021? Not so much. But in 2018 there were still a lot of clients that needed a disk and not a URL.It’s not about “minimalism” it’s about where the puck is going to be next. What do you want / need ? an audio jack? a sd card slot? What about a CD player or floppy drive?. I’m sick of the new apple guys who don’t get anything. Apple was about been ahead, to be smart, to leave behind the status quo. CDs were amazing or so we though, and iTunes came. iPods were too, and then iPhone came. That’s what’s unique about apple, not a bunch of useless / legacy / i_never_asked_for_stuff. The brand for that is called Microsoft and their usual partners are dell, HP, Lenovo between others. Some of their models have usb 2.0, that could be a deal breaker.
And how do you know this.No, he had nothing to do with the decision as to what ports were included.
Thank you I love the touch bar it is so much better than the fn ButtonsAm I really the only person in the world who actually likes the Touch Bar?
Much like the idea of the iPhone replacing physical buttons depending on app context - it's actually useful when compared to a row of utterly useless buttons marked "F". I don't understand the hatred, or why Apple are caving
Ive was an industrial designer. There's no reason to assume he had anything to do with the specific ports anymore than he had anything to do with the specific processor. I mean, maybe someone asked him at a meeting what he thought, but he's exactly as in charge of ports as the guy who designs the keyboard.And how do you know this.
I agree with you on that one. Would definitely make the upgrade worth it.If MagSafe is indeed back, I just hope they make the cable detachable from the brick so you don't have to throw out the whole charger when the cable fails. Maybe it could be USB-C on one end and MagSafe on the other and they can continue to use the current bricks?
If this thing is real, I may already be looking at trading in my 2020 MacBook Air.
I strongly hope they at least offer a non-touchbar option.
Jumping from the 15" Late 2013 MacBook Pro to a 16" MacBook Pro I HATED the touchbar and I'm glad the 13" M1 Air has the function keys again.
To me the touchbar is a flashy gimmick targeting basic users rather than power users that don't even look at the keyboard when typing.
Pro laptops today are consumer laptops 4 years from now. I never go for "just good enough." Well, I could if I were ok replacing things often, but that's annoying.I'm so torn. I don't really need the power of a Pro, but I also don't want to get the M1 Air and have a 2011-era laptop design for the next few years if something modern is right around the corner.