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Redesigned Apple TV Not Ready for WWDC Debut

Announce at WWDC, reveal at iPhone 7 event, pre-order month after that, deliveries Q1 2016

The new slow roll ;)
 
Supermallet said:
Since you taught English, I'm sure you're familiar with the definition of an electronic computer:

"an electronic device for storing and processing data, typically in binary form, according to instructions given to it in a variable program."

I don't see how the iPhone ISN'T a computer. Even if you don't take a dictionary definition, I can write papers on an iPhone (and print them wirelessly), take and edit and share photos, play games, use it as a calculator, balance my checkbook on it, surf the web, have it save my logins and passwords, etc. It's not a desktop computer, it's not a laptop, it's a truly mobile computer. The mobile element of it might mean that it can't replicate every task that a desktop or laptop computer could, but you're arbitrarily cutting off the iPhone from being a computer solely to make the point that Apple is failing at being a great computer company.

I'm sure there were things that the Apple II couldn't do that IBM mainframes could do when the Apple II was released, but I doubt you'd see anyone make the argument that the Apple II wasn't a computer.
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If Steve could do it why can't I?

We're splitting hairs here. And I agree that iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad are computing devices. I used to tell people that the iPhone is a super computer that also has a phone function. But I just wish Apple would draw the line there and not get into TVs, etc. Anyway TVs I could live with, but a watch! get out of town. And now there's talk of a car. Geesuz H. Christo. Since McDonalds isn't doing so well now maybe they could buy that on the cheap then they could new meaning the Big Mac trademark. And think what kind of fun they could have with their cryptic WWDC invitations.
 
Was hoping for a new Apple TV with a Plex app. Then it might have finally been worth getting.
 
tokyodan said:
If Steve could do it why can't I?

We're splitting hairs here. And I agree that iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad are computing devices. I used to tell people that the iPhone is a super computer that also has a phone function. But I just wish Apple would draw the line there and not get into TVs, etc. Anyway TVs I could live with, but a watch! get out of town. And now there's talk of a car. Geesuz H. Christo. Since McDonalds isn't doing so well now maybe they could buy that on the cheap then they could new meaning the Big Mac trademark. And think what kind of fun they could have with their cryptic WWDC invitations.
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For a company with as much disposable income as Apple, I don't mind them investing in R&D for things that may never come to fruition or that currently seem outlandish. But I don't think that Apple is choosing things arbitrarily. Everything they've done to this point has been to lock people more and more into the Apple ecosystem. Right now it's phone/tablet/computer integration. They've just released the watch, which may seem to be kind of a toy at the moment (although I have one and it's actually already very useful for certain tasks), but I promise you that it's going to be a key element in Apple's long term plans.

HomeKit to me is the biggest indicator of where Apple is going. Connected homes right now are all silo-ed off between different manufacturers, and any attempts to unify them have so far been hit and miss. If Apple can really create a seamless connected home experience, it will open up all kinds of possibilities. And the watch is key to this working, because what is easier than lifting your wrist, saying "Hey Siri, set me up to watch a movie" (or some command like that), and your TV comes on, your Apple TV loads up Netflix, your lights dim, your phone is set to do not disturb, etc? I think that's where Apple is heading and in light of that these seemingly ancillary and scattershot products begin to make a lot more sense. If Apple makes your TV (or your way of accessing content on your TV), your computer, your phone, your car, your tablet, and you can control it all by raising your wrist and saying a few words, wouldn't that seem completely magical?

But it only works if Apple makes all of it and you buy into all of it. You can buy an iPhone and it's great on its own, same with a Mac or an iPad. But they're better together and I think more and more Apple is going to release devices that rely on other devices, or assume you have a base level of investment in the Apple ecosystem.

Just my two cents.
 
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Seems to me this could be an historically boring Keynote. Two updated OS's which for the user seem identical to the previous, just more stable. And perhaps a musical streaming service which for the next 2-3 years will have a lot less features than the competitors. I cant wait..Yawn!
 
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tgwaste said:
Thats OK. Plex is over-hyped over-rated crap.
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Have you ever properly used Plex? It is anything but.

rhett7660 said:
Let's keep our fingers crossed this rumor is not true! I too am soooo looking forward and to a native Plex app!!!!
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I can't see Apple letting the app on to be honest, unless there was an open App Store. To close to the functionality of iTunes. Fingers crossed none the same.
 
So for the first time in many years WWDC will be all about software? Strange, and not what that "Center of everything" leads us to believe...unless that's all about homekit, but I still find it hard to believe that not a single piece of new hardware will be announced...oh well
 
s1m said:
Actually it is all that matters - the CEO has a legal obligation to maximise profits for shareholders.
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Not entirely true in the context of this discussion topic.

The Worldwide Developers Conference is about other people making money by using the latest development software. Tim Cook will not be there speaking as a shareholder speaker. Rather as a Chief Apple technology spokesman.

And that matters.
 
Peace said:
Not entirely true in the context of this discussion topic.

The Worldwide Developers Conference is about other people making money by using the latest development software. Tim Cook will not be there speaking as a shareholder speaker. Rather as a Chief Apple technology spokesman.

And that matters.
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Actually what matters to him is his legal obligation to maximise returns to shareholders. What matters to developers si something entirely.
 
Notice how the anticipation for a new Apple "thing" is tagged with comments like "late to the game" or "been waiting forever"... and then when the "thing" actually arrives, it feels like the right time?

Apple is not aiming to be first. They are aiming to be best. And for that, I bow to them for their commitment to excellence. I can wait for when they choose to release the "thing".
 
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HenryDJP said:
Don't waste your time. Many people posting negatively towards Apple here are planted to do so, in order to shake things up and purposely annoy the "Apple Faithful". Any sane person would just say, "Since WWDC is in just a few days I'd rather wait and have Apple officially confirm that than believe a rumor".
Any others that aren't planted here tend to be the same old people that always look for a reason to be angry at Apple. Sad for them really.
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The funnier bit is hearing people complain about WWDC being software focussed with no major hardware announcements...given what WWDC is.
 
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Could we at least see a spec bumped Mac Pro here?

Slightly more efficient processors, cheaper SSDs (though no bigger) pushes the entry price down by a few hundred dollars and *boom* new colours.

I'm only half joking :p
 
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Supermallet said:
For a company with as much disposable income as Apple, I don't mind them investing in R&D for things that may never come to fruition or that currently seem outlandish. But I don't think that Apple is choosing things arbitrarily. Everything they've done to this point has been to lock people more and more into the Apple ecosystem. Right now it's phone/tablet/computer integration. They've just released the watch, which may seem to be kind of a toy at the moment (although I have one and it's actually already very useful for certain tasks), but I promise you that it's going to be a key element in Apple's long term plans.

HomeKit to me is the biggest indicator of where Apple is going. Connected homes right now are all silo-ed off between different manufacturers, and any attempts to unify them have so far been hit and miss. If Apple can really create a seamless connected home experience, it will open up all kinds of possibilities. And the watch is key to this working, because what is easier than lifting your wrist, saying "Hey Siri, set me up to watch a movie" (or some command like that), and your TV comes on, your Apple TV loads up Netflix, your lights dim, your phone is set to do not disturb, etc? I think that's where Apple is heading and in light of that these seemingly ancillary and scattershot products begin to make a lot more sense. If Apple makes your TV (or your way of accessing content on your TV), your computer, your phone, your car, your tablet, and you can control it all by raising your wrist and saying a few words, wouldn't that seem completely magical?

But it only works if Apple makes all of it and you buy into all of it. You can buy an iPhone and it's great on its own, same with a Mac or an iPad. But they're better together and I think more and more Apple is going to release devices that rely on other devices, or assume you have a base level of investment in the Apple ecosystem.

Just my two cents.
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I agree with you 100%. I'm not disputing if their business decisions are good or not, right or wrong. I just think that trying to cover all bases has an effect on some things. e.g. OSX is not as good as it was when I first came back to Apple when Snow Leopard was the current OS. Yeah. It has more features now. but it is also more buggy, and not as 'precise' in many operations as it used to be. I think this is a side effect of NOT concentrating more of their resources on OSX because they are off chasing other things. But I guess they are getting the idea because they now talk of cleaning things up and improving what they already got rather than coming out with the next new shinny thing to keep child-like impatient nerds (MOMMY. I WANT IT! AND I WANT IT NOW!) happy.
 
Well, maybe they will dedicate more time to OS X 11's 100 new features (one of which better damn well be Vulkan).
 
iMcLovin said:
Seems to me this could be an historically boring Keynote. Two updated OS's which for the user seem identical to the previous, just more stable. And perhaps a musical streaming service which for the next 2-3 years will have a lot less features than the competitors. I cant wait..Yawn!
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Your words capture my thoughts as well. Really disappointed with this news. I am not impressed with Apple's current streaming service nor with the rumors of what the new one will bring. This keynote really sounds like a snooze fest. This will be the first keynote that I really have nothing to look forward to.
 
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If the new Apple TV is not yet ready for shipment is not a big deal, they can showcase it during the event and say it will be available this fall.
The Watch shipped months after the event, so did the MacPro after the preview during WWDC.
They can't just give us a sneak peak to iOS 9, people expect more from the event.
 
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recoil80 said:
If the new Apple TV is not yet ready for shipment is not a big deal, they can showcase it during the event and say it will be available this fall.
The Watch shipped months after the event, so did the MacPro after the preview during WWDC.
They can't just give us a sneak peak to iOS 9, people expect more from the event.
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If delay means Apple TV will support 4K, it'll be very much worth it
 
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