but can I still watch the WWDC keynote that's not about Apple TV on my Apple TV?
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Redesigned Apple TV Not Ready for WWDC Debut
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It doesn't really matter to me I will just switch off to another device with a better user experience. I think three years is ample time to get something cobbled together. The UI is too busy and it really isn't that great a user experience as even compared to my Xbox One which I tend to watch things like Netflix on more often these days. Really the only thing I use it for anymore is Podcasts.
All they are doing with this move is losing sales to the competition.
All they are doing with this move is losing sales to the competition.
That's not even close to what I said. But yes, I am sure there is hard balling going on as Apple probably looks like that scene in The Dark Knight with the joker sitting on the pile of money. My point is the resources are there for this to not take that long.
You do know what the D in WWDC stands for right?
Its not the world wide hardware conference now is it.
In 2015 we should know by now that most of apples new hardware is shown around october / november, with maybe slight peaks of them at a WWDC. Still tho no apple TV sucks, was looking forward to one so badly.
You forgot the line about many magical products in the pipeline. ;-)
I'm just going to ignore this rumor and cross my fingers on Monday it's wrong. 
No Apple TV, no reason to watch this year's WWDC. Everything else will be boring.
iOS9 = boring
OS X 10.11 = boring
Apple Pay = boring
Apple Watch OS = super boring
San Francisco Font for all = Yawn, can't get any worse than with the Helvetica light!
HomeKit, HealthKit, WhateverKit... have never took off = boring.
Everything seems so meaningless this year.
There are no hypes, no surprises, and the apple software is crying for fixes.
Dear Apple, just fix at least "Continuity/Handoff" and "Personal Hotspot", that'd be really exciting!
iOS9 = boring
OS X 10.11 = boring
Apple Pay = boring
Apple Watch OS = super boring
San Francisco Font for all = Yawn, can't get any worse than with the Helvetica light!
HomeKit, HealthKit, WhateverKit... have never took off = boring.
Everything seems so meaningless this year.
There are no hypes, no surprises, and the apple software is crying for fixes.
Dear Apple, just fix at least "Continuity/Handoff" and "Personal Hotspot", that'd be really exciting!
No Apple TV, no reason to watch this year's WWDC. Everything else will be boring.
iOS9 = boring
OS X 10.11 = boring
Apple Pay = boring
Apple Watch OS = super boring
San Francisco Font for all = Yawn, can't get any worse than with the Helvetica light!
HomeKit, HealthKit, WhateverKit... have never took off = boring.
Everything seems so meaningless this year.
There are no hypes, no surprises, and the apple software is crying for fixes.
Dear Apple, just fix at least "Continuity/Handoff" and "Personal Hotspot", that'd be really exciting!
Thats the point of iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 - Fix the stability problems.
Maybe they actually do have a surprise this year?
The Xbox One (and 360 as well) is a much better media machine than the latest Apple TV. Apple TV's Netflix implementation is just atrocious right now.
Everything seems so meaningless this year.
There are no hypes, no surprises, and the apple software is crying for fixes.
How do you know there are going to be no surprises if, you know, they're supposed to be a surprise!?
well, i guess it is better than announcing it and not having it available for 6 months (maybe they learned their lesson)
And, "apple doesn't innovate, my a@@!"
Oh, like you think it's so easy to design a box, do you?
And some rappers selling the music streaming service. Maybe they'll have that guy with the gold watch who was grabbing himself in the pic 9to5 had on their homepage the other day.
Got an Apple TV a few months ago not expecting much out of it but for 69 bucks I jumped on it. I'm in love with the thing! Airplay, trailers, hbo go, renting things from itunes and playing music on it, viewing photos...I like it so much I would've paid 200 for it...call me crazy but with all my apple products it is exactly what I needed. I firmly believe it has the potential to be Apple's ace in the hole. I'd love to see it get a modern a7-a8 chip, app store, subscription service, and maybe siri support. Could care less about siri though. Don't mind waiting longer as I just bought one recently and if it's delayed they're taking their good old time making it great...My current one has a lot of life left in it.
I would agree - whilst there are plenty TV's in the likes of JL and Currys/PC World (washes mouth out with soap) there is absolutely no content.
Another thing to mention is consumer resistance. We were all told that 3D was the next big thing and some early adopters even rushed out to buy into the whole thing. Now, tell me again, how did that go?
WWDC is not meant for hardware announcements, save hardware FOR DEVELOPERS.
Usually, Apple will introduce software APIs that will work with new hardware released in the fall.
It may, and I stress may be Apple's ace in the hole. However, there are now so many other options out there that Apple may well struggle. Think, Smart TV's Chromecast, Amazon Fire to mention only but a few. I use my ATV less now than I have ever done. Both my PVR's and the TV itself have access to lots of streaming services so I rarely need to bother with ATV anymore.
I think once they revamp it the halo ecosystem will attract potential buyers who don't have a streaming box. Even if it's sales are minor it still ties in with everything. It'll take a lot to be an ace and I completely agree with your post.