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References to Intel's Latest Ice Lake SP Processors in Xcode 13 Beta Hint at Forthcoming Mac Pro Update
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If Apple really wants to impress, skip the ice lake and go straight to an AMD EPIC.
Wait… you only wanted your machine on the condition that they never do a newer machine?
True x86 support would probably be the predominate reason. Apple may be able to best it with raw CPU performance but there may be other first-gen limitations like memory, ports, and gpu options. - Which gives more credibility to a smaller Mac Pro being in the works that may be a peace offering to those that want more than an Apple Silicon iMac while leaving the full size Intel Mac Pro for those that need it.
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Some people confuse being a "pro" with blowing a second mortgage on a vanity purchase to stroke their egos.
Not necessarily. I would think that if they do release an updated Intel Mac Pro, it'll come out later in 2021. The Apple Silicon Mac Pro would likely be announced at WWDC 2022 and released about 3 months later, around the same time the first M1 Macs came out 2 years prior. My guess.
Horrible idea from technical, marketing and value for money view.
One of your argument points is that it was seen as a "failure". If being seen as a failure was not a factor, you shouldn't have listed it as a supporting detail. And you didn't clarify what "doesn't work like that" means so there was nothing to go on.You are not serious with this, right? Magic mouse was never discontinued and brought back.
Wrong example
They've done a two-different-CPUs setup before:
But I don't think they're ever doing that again.
The W chips are based on the SP architecture. The 8,1 will feature Ice Lake-SP based Xeon-W chips such as the Xeon W-3335.
I'd take professional reviews, friends opinions, 6 years of twitter complaints, and much more to formulate what I believe is seen as a failure (which is completely different to what Apple thinks is a failure).
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Yep, that is having 2 computers in 1 case (old Amigas did that to the point of having ISA slots only useable with such an addon). What was suggested here would be more like the PPC cards (again for the Amiga) with had an 68040/060 onboard. Needless to say PPC performance was crippled compared to what the chips could do on it's own and SW support was a total mess.
It must really suck right now if you're locked into using a Mac for a workstation, and can't go the Epyc/PC route. We're talking 2-3X the cost for a full build, ECC memory, pro motherboard and all.
Nah, I think it will be more like the cube but a lot better looking. Imagine a precision machined aluminum block that is passively cooled by large internal radiators running the M2Z. Although I really have no freaking idea what they’re doing with GPUs. You’re not far off in thinking this thing probably won’t be very upgradable, which kinda does against the whole point of the current model. Maybe it’s taking the longest because they’re getting that part figured out?
Great and not great, they do not want to support multiple architectures. They are *all in* on in-house chips, for better or for worse.
I had one back in 95, it had a Power PC processor and a 486 in it. Super cool back in the day.
I don't really see the difference. The DOS card setup did things like share RAM (which is probably hard to do now without a massive performance/latency hit) and video output. That would probably be about as close as you could get as running Intel macOS on a primarily ARM Mac.
Mac pros used to have processor bumps almost every year. Nobody complained about that.
-> and thats why it is pointless. Just take an 10GBit M1 Mini, strip the case of, shove it somewhere in the MPro, run a supershort patch cable and start screensharing.
100% the same result, without compromising the performance of either side.
Been waiting for this, great news. When I saw the demo of continuity during WWDC I was worried it required M1+ chips and that alone was making me think this update wouldn't happen, but it turns out that's not the case per fine print on the new MacOS page.
The 2019 Mac Pro single threaded CPU speed was so bad I couldn't justify the cost but this should be decent enough and finally with faster RAM and a not insane $5,000 gpu that performs similarly to the current high-end one.
I wonder if it will pair to the new Magic Keyboard with touch ID or not... that would require a T2 update for sure. People thinking you're going to slot an M chip into an Intel computer are crazy, but a hypothetical T3 that has some of the interoperability functionality that the M series provides would be nice though I doubt it will happen, unless they really want to close those security holes.
The ability to run x86 Windows natively is great for the long-term and in the short term not having to futz with dozens of picky apps for M1 updates / older ones that may never come is nice. Excited to sell my 16" to fund this and then get a cheap M chip laptop a good portable down the road. Releasing over the summer so the machine can stay on Big Sur for compatibility reasons would be icing on the cake.
The 2019 Mac Pro single threaded CPU speed was so bad I couldn't justify the cost but this should be decent enough and finally with faster RAM and a not insane $5,000 gpu that performs similarly to the current high-end one.
I wonder if it will pair to the new Magic Keyboard with touch ID or not... that would require a T2 update for sure. People thinking you're going to slot an M chip into an Intel computer are crazy, but a hypothetical T3 that has some of the interoperability functionality that the M series provides would be nice though I doubt it will happen, unless they really want to close those security holes.
The ability to run x86 Windows natively is great for the long-term and in the short term not having to futz with dozens of picky apps for M1 updates / older ones that may never come is nice. Excited to sell my 16" to fund this and then get a cheap M chip laptop a good portable down the road. Releasing over the summer so the machine can stay on Big Sur for compatibility reasons would be icing on the cake.
Exactly. Especially with something like Synergy/Teleport/Apple's just-announced Universal Control.