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Sweet—a new iPad Mini with a processor from 2015! Definitely buying that. I also enjoy sticking my money into paper shredders and lighting it on fire. Thanks, Apple!

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I’d be surprised if a new iPod Touch didn’t have either TouchID or FaceID, because they enable Apple Pay, and Apple Pay makes Apple money.

Glad if they make a new one, as long as it has a headphone socket.
 
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Ignorant about apple.
Leaving aside the ad hom, the $329 iPad released in March 2018 used the A10, and that model has been updated yearly. A low-volume seller like the mini is on more like a three year update cycle. That’s why Apple used the A8 when they released the mini 4 in 2015—for the same reason they gave it 2GB RAM: shelf life until 2019.

So now, four years later, you expect an A9, when the mini likely won’t be updated again until 2022? Seems extremely unlikely imo.

But I can’t wait to hear your logical reasoning for thinking A9 :rolleyes:
 
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Leaving aside the ad hom, the $329 iPad released in March 2018 used the A10, and that model has been updated yearly. A low-volume model like the mini is on more like a three year update cycle. That’s why they used the A8 when they released the mini 4 in 2015. For the same reason they gave it 2GB RAM: shelf life until 2019.

So now, four years later, you expect an A9, when this model likely won’t be updated again until 2022?

Seems extremely unlikely imo. But I can’t wait to hear your logical reasoning for thinking A9 :rolleyes:

If I were to take a stab at it..

-The A series will start to plateau.

-If they start using ARM in Macs, I imagine they would like to have a performance gap between their entry level products and the “pro” (expensive) stuff.

-The A9 is about 80% faster than the A8.

Perosnally, I would prefer an A10.. but I could see why they would stick with an A9.
 
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If I were to take a stab at it..

-The A series will start to plateau.

-If they start using ARM in Macs, I imagine they would like to have a performance gap between their entry level products and the “pro” (expensive) stuff.

-The A9 is about 80% faster than the A8.

Perosnally, I would prefer an A10.. but I could see why they would stick with an A9.
1) A possible A-series CPU in future Macs doesn’t seem particularly relevant to the processor selection for the iPad mini 5.

2) If Apple followed your line of thinking, the 2018 $329 9.7” iPad wouldn’t have been updated from A9 to A10. Unless you think this year’s iPad will go back to the A9, I guess.
 
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Why not? $199 is a nice price point. Like the mini 4, it’s got an A8 that needs updating.

If ithe iPod touch would be size of XR or max, I am picking one up.

If they update iPad mini to pro design with pencil support, and reasonable price tag, I am getting one on day one. The prices in Japan are just too high, I have seen one XR and about 4 iPhone X so far (in last year). Almost nobody can justify the price to upgrade.
 
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An A9 based system would take what 3 years of the life of the iPad in regards to iOS support? SO you would only get 2 or 3 years of iOS updates. That isn't going to be popular.

I agree, though, I think that’s the idea.
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1) A possible A-series CPU in future Macs doesn’t seem particularly relevant to the processor selection for the iPad mini 5.

2) If Apple followed your line of thinking, the 2018 $329 9.7” iPad wouldn’t have been updated from A9 to A10. Unless you think this year’s iPad will go back to the A9, I guess.

I imagine they would keep it on the A10 and have an A9 for the mini. I’ve been disappointed by how Apple has treated the mini, so my low expectations come from this. If it loses the laminate display, I won’t be upgrading.

Having the new iPad on the A11 and the mini on the A10 would be nice. However, it seems they have been creating some performance/quality gaps to go along with the price gaps.
 
Going to buy the iPad mini once the new ones arrive. Gonna get it with massive discounts. For kids it really doesn’t matter which CPU, GPU, RAM. As long as they can do their school stuffs, games and FaceTime with family.
 
I imagine they would keep it on the A10 and have an A9 for the mini. I’ve been disappointed by how Apple has treated the mini, so my low expectations come from this. If it loses the laminate display, I won’t be upgrading.

Having the new iPad on the A11 and the mini on the A10 would be nice. However, it seems they have been creating some performance/quality gaps to go along with the price gaps.
If the new, larger iPad has the A11 at $329, and you think Apple’s trying to create a price/performance/quality gap, just how cheap and low quality do you expect an A9 mini to be? Just being cynical isn’t a logical reason for thinking Apple will use an A9 instead of at least an A10.

Anyway, if the new iPad does have an A11, I would’ve surprised if the mini does too. Another possibility would be A10X/3GB RAM like the Apple TV 4K. But Apple won’t put a four year old CPU in the mini, especially in light of the fact it probably won’t be updated again until 2022. The A9 isn’t likely to be less costly for Apple compared to A10/A10X/A11; there’s simply nothing to be gained by using it.
 
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Next to the low priced iPad mini, I was hoping for apple to release a iPad mini pro of 9 inch with the same design as the 11 inch with an Apple Pencil pairing/charging mechanism, but without the smart connector (too small for a good keyboard), for about $500-600 , with a12 and 120hz display , usb-c and faceid, smaller bezels, and a 326dpi lcd display.

A great high end small tablet in a lower price range, than the current 11 and 12.9 inch pros.

At this moment there is no up to date option in this price range, except for the older 10.5 inch pro.
 
If the new, larger iPad has the A11 at $329, and you think Apple’s trying to create a price/performance/quality gap, just how cheap and low quality do you expect an A9 mini to be? Just being cynical isn’t a logical reason for thinking Apple will use an A9 instead of at least an A10.

Anyway, if the new iPad does have an A11, I would’ve surprised if the mini does too. Another possibility would be A10X/3GB RAM like the Apple TV 4K. But Apple won’t put a four year old CPU in the mini, especially in light of the fact it probably won’t be updated again until 2022. The A9 isn’t likely to be less costly for Apple compared to A10/A10X/A11; there’s simply nothing to be gained by using it.

That's quite fair, I suppose I am being cynical.

One interesting thing with the A9 is that it is sourced from both TSMC and Samsung. That may give them more leverage when negotiating pricing and allow them to keep a second supplier in the mix. I'm not sure if they have any obligations to Samsung as well.. that could be another factor? As far as I know, the A9 is the last dual-sourced processor in the series.

Intel has long sold similar silicon at different price points, with certain features disabled or speeds throttled. I don't think the performance gap argument is without merit.
 
I hope Apple has learnt from the errors in the structure of the iPad Pro and will give this rumored iPad mini a rigid ‘backbone’ so it won’t bend that easy. But knowing Apple there would be first a class action lawsuit needed to keep them moving in the right direction.

I also think they will get introduced around the same time Mobile World Congress in Barcelona takes off. But this won’t take away the attention of the new mobile phones.
 
So far I don’t see anything worthwhile or significant to upgrade the iPad mini 4 to the new mini 5.
 
Hope their prices will not be too high to instantly make these launches a failure...

We all know Apple charges a premium for all their products, so we can expect that. But I don’t necessarily believe that ‘if the prices are too high, makes these launches a failure’. I would say it depends on the popularity of the product, and if it’s an iPad mini or iPod touch, those are long-standing products that have been around for a long time, that may be very well popular if they are revived with the proper specifications.
 
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I'm not understanding the purpose of resuming products forgotten for years. Weren't those important in Apple's offering? If yes, why leave them in the cold with no updates?. If no, why a come back again?
 
I'm not understanding the purpose of resuming products forgotten for years. Weren't those important in Apple's offering? If yes, why leave them in the cold with no updates?. If no, why a come back again?

A comeback? There was there was an a8 2gb version with a laminated display.
Now there will be an update with an a10. What would you have liked apple to do? Release one with an a9? Or now with an a12 that is overkill for this device. Remember that it has to be a budget device for 269 to 329
 
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