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Some people will always want to fiddle for the sake of it. Apple isn't targetting that market. Their target is people who just want a device that works and doesn't require them to waste a lot of time on getting it to do what they want of it.

True, with a small correction. It's as long as what you want coincides with what apple wants you to do with their devices as well.
 
Wow...! Seriously? Because we all know all legal music comes from itunes... right?

Drag/drop into itunes too hard?

Why don't you have the original source?

Thank you for assuming I'm pirating music, really.

I'm struggling to see the difficulty, if you actually have/own originals of the music? Be it itunes download, mp3 purchased from elsewhere, or CD you can rip?
 
Drag/drop into itunes too hard?

Why don't you have the original source?
I don't have it on my laptop, I have it on my desktop, I am currently away and I don't have access to my desktop, and will be away for a month or so.

My phone already has music from my desktop which is where the library is synced, I want to add one more song from my laptop. I don't have the same music on my laptop and desktop. If I try to add even one song, iTunes asks to erase my library.

See the problem?
 
I'm struggling to see the difficulty, if you actually have/own originals of the music? Be it itunes download, mp3 purchased from elsewhere, or CD you can rip?

And also, let's say I had CDs with me that I could rip, re-ripping CDs of music that is already in my iPhone, just to get one more song on my phone is your definition of easy?
 
Its not so much a big deal to me when it comes to the UI but it would be cool if I could customize like you can on an Android phone. nonetheless I'm sticking with Apple.
 
Honestly if they wanted to do an UI design they should have done it this year...

-new smaller dock
-4 inch screen
-new UI

makes sense just to change them all at once
 
Imagine if they DID change it hugely and millions of people just got confused with what had happened to their perfectly functional UI?

This is why I don't see them changing it so much in one jump.

Instead I think they will slowly start to change things so that over a couple years we may (or may not) see new things.
 
I don't understand this fascination with changing the UI. OS X has only changed slightly over the years, and Windows didn't change a huge amount from Windows 95 to Windows 7.
 
Why are they still supporting the 3GS if they're cutting off support for the first iPad anyway? The 3GS is an older and less capable device.
 
Why are they still supporting the 3GS if they're cutting off support for the first iPad anyway? The 3GS is an older and less capable device.

It's a smartphone that can get a consumer to eventually buy a newer better phone. Apple sees continuing the 3GS as a great way to keep their products in a consumer's hand.
 
Why are they still supporting the 3GS if they're cutting off support for the first iPad anyway? The 3GS is an older and less capable device.

The 3GS is much more capable compared still because the iPad had a much higher resolution screen and very similar other internals so both compared now are like night and day.
 
It's a smartphone that can get a consumer to eventually buy a newer better phone. Apple sees continuing the 3GS as a great way to keep their products in a consumer's hand.

The same could be said for the iPad 1.

The 3GS is much more capable compared still because the iPad had a much higher resolution screen and very similar other internals so both compared now are like night and day.

I... What? :confused:
 
The same reason they haven't radically changed OS X.
Consistency.

Pick up any iOS device and you can instantly know how to do anything.
Pick up any Android and.......

You never institute change for change sake.
That is a losing proposition.
 
The same could be said for the iPad 1.

Good Point, however the 3GS is subsidized by carriers. As a result, you can get the iPhone 3GS for free but you could never get an iPad for free. When something is "free", it enables a much larger customer base to be able to use the product. As a result, the iPhone 3GS is a much more relevant tool than the first gen iPad.

Maybe Apple doesn't think it is cost effective to produce the iPad at a low price and instead has decided to put its efforts into the iPad 2 and new iPad.

I have a first gen iPad, so I'm as unhappy about it as you are, but I understand that the 3GS strategy is completely different than the iPad.
 
Good Point, however the 3GS is subsidized by carriers. As a result, you can get the iPhone 3GS for free but you could never get an iPad for free. When something is "free", it enables a much larger customer base to be able to use the product. As a result, the iPhone 3GS is a much more relevant tool than the first gen iPad.

Maybe Apple doesn't think it is cost effective to produce the iPad at a low price and instead has decided to put its efforts into the iPad 2 and new iPad.

I have a first gen iPad, so I'm as unhappy about it as you are, but I understand that the 3GS strategy is completely different than the iPad.

Neither product is still being produced and sold for any price so I still don't see the case for one to take priority over the other; I could not get an iPhone 3GS on contract right now, I'd only have a choice between a 4S and a 4.

Edit: I was wrong, turns out Apple still do make the 3GS for some reason. Alright, it does make sense they've given it the update seeing as they're still selling it.
 
I... What? :confused:

haha I didn't think I was making much sense when I wrote it :/

But my understanding has always been (and is especially true upon using my mum's iPad 1) that the iPhone 3gs and iPad 1 shared very similar internals (cpu, gpu, ram etc) and the iPad had a much higher resolution screen (1024x768) vs the iPhone 3gs (480x320) thus the iPad one now feels much more sluggish and less slick when scrolling around the UI and in apps (due to the higher res screen needing much more from the gpu).

The iPad was an underpowered machine from the beginning. They definitely fixed it with the iPad 2 though.
 
And also, let's say I had CDs with me that I could rip, re-ripping CDs of music that is already in my iPhone, just to get one more song on my phone is your definition of easy?

In that case, pony up the 25 bucks a year for itunes match and forget about the problem?

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I don't understand this fascination with changing the UI. OS X has only changed slightly over the years, and Windows didn't change a huge amount from Windows 95 to Windows 7.

Some people like to fiddle/tweak for the sake of it. They want something different - whether it is better or not is beside the point.

I used to be one of them (linux X11 user), until i realised that UI design is actually pretty hard - and all the customizations I've done result in something really not any better (overall) than what is already out there - just with a different bunch of trade-offs.

With the added problem that no one else can use the custom UI that I tweaked without spending time to figure it out.

As far as I'm concerned the iPhone UI is pretty much a "solved" problem. All interfaces have trade-offs, and the trade-offs made in the iPhone are no big issue for me.


There are far more important/interesting things to spend my time on. I'd rather apple do the same - instead of wasting resources (and all of their user's time, to re-learn the new UI) on a UI overhaul (when it really isn't needed) spend that time working on new and interesting apps.


Jobs once told the mac team that any time they saved on boot up of the mac would effectively be saving lifetimes worth of time when all their users were taken into account (eg, 30 seconds per boot x 10 million users x once per day x 365 days/yr adds up fast - in the case of iOS, there are several hundred million users out there?). I'm sure that the iOS / OS X teams feel similarly today. Wasting your user's time with a UI redesign had better have MAJOR benefits other than "ooh shiny" or you're just costing people productivity/part of their life for nothing.
 
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Or a simple reason: nothing big needs to be fixed. You want big UI changes? Jailbreak, then add all the ugly themes you want.

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The same reason they haven't radically changed OS X.
Consistency.

Pick up any iOS device and you can instantly know how to do anything.
Pick up any Android and.......

You never institute change for change sake.
That is a losing proposition.

I managed to make my Mac OS X look different from the rest using a lot of mods/tweaks. It looked terrible.
 
There are lots of minor UI changes,,don't these count as changes???:(

There are tweaks (changing the look of something slightly, or adding a feature you can ignore) and there are paradigm shifts.

It would appear that some people want a paradigm shift, which will mean every iOS user would need to re-learn the OS.
 
There are tweaks (changing the look of something slightly, or adding a feature you can ignore) and there are paradigm shifts.

It would appear that some people want a paradigm shift, which will mean every iOS user would need to re-learn the OS.

Well people did learn how to use multitasking, notification center, etc.

Don't see why Apple can't change things up a bit.
 
And also, let's say I had CDs with me that I could rip, re-ripping CDs of music that is already in my iPhone, just to get one more song on my phone is your definition of easy?

dont sync. Drag your music folder in iTunes onto your idevice. then when your at another computer, drag a song.
 
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