Why would you continuously make yourself look like idiots? Mock and Copy is Samsungs Cut and Paste.
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Regulatory Filing Confirms Samsung Will Copy Apple and Ditch Power Adapters
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So, all the things I mentioned (OLED, 5G, 2x storage, etc.) are not “enough” to make up for the missing charger and EarPods?
In the case of new iPhones, I feel I’m getting more value than ever before - if I was going to buy one. But I’m not, since my three year old iPhone is still fantastic.
Let’s see when Apple drops the stickers from the package. Surely even that will result in a 1000 comment thread on MR :-D
Not true at all.
No matter how big Apple gets, they are never “too big” to fail.
Just look at the original HomePod. Apple introduced it as this top-of-the-line speaker, ranted and raved about how great it was and how everyone needed it in their house, put it on the market for $350, and no one bought it. They lowered the price not even a full 18 months later, and now they have a $100 version that they are marketing.
Another example is the iPhones. In 2018, Apple introduced the iPhone XR as a lower end, more budget friendly version of that years standard iPhones, which were the XS.
Once the iPhone XR absolutely blew up, the next generation of that XR design was just labeled as the 11. So now, the cheaper one became the standard, and the more popular ones became the “pro.”
Another example is the MacBook Air. Apple introduced it in 2008 at $1800, that’s $2100 in today’s money, and it didn’t sell very well. So in 2010, they completely redesigned it, re-engineered it, and priced it at $1000. And that’s when it took off.
You might not think that your money means that much to Apple, but it really, really does.
And clearly, if removing the charger would’ve been that big of a deal to people, then the phones wouldn’t have sold as well. But nope, the majority of people either already have a charger, or see that it’s a literally just an just anand clearly, if removing the charger would’ve been that big of a deal to people, then the phones wouldn’t have sold as well. But nope, the majority of people either already have a charger, or see that it’s literally just an extra 20 bucks and just go ahead and buy it.
thats a lie.
The iPod Touch has never came with a brick.
The AirPods and AirPods Pro don’t come with a brick.
The Apple TV remote doesn’t come with a brick.
The Magic mouse, magic trackpad, and magic keyboard for the Mac don’t come with a brick.
so it makes sense for them to stop selling it with their iPhones. They already don’t sell it with the majority of their other lightning powered devices, so why this one.
Correct, there are three facts with different conjectures surrounding these facts:
1. The power was removed from two mainstream phones.
2. Prices weren't raised.
3. There is a net positive toward the environment.
One can make up any story they want surrounding these facts, however this still stands... Consumer impacted? check. Environment impacted? check. Wallet impacted? Maybe.
I own a few USB devices that don't come with a brick to charge. From USB camera holders to expensive bluetooth noise cancelling headphones to Airpods. At any point, the policy on these could be changed by the manufacturer.
Each new phone introduced new things yet included accessories didn't need to be removed to make up for it.
Yup, a company makes a decision and gets the consumer to take on the impact (while the company get benefits in the process). Not a hard decision to make by any means.
There is no evidence (conjecture: sure, evidence: not so much) the company got any direct (indirect yes) benefits in this process. There is evidence there is an overall benefit to all of us by removal of the brick in the form of less environmental impact.
Spending less to produce less power adapters and less on packaging is certainly a benefit, not sure how else that can be interpreted. Having more people (whatever the number) separately purchase a power adapter from them is also certainly a benefit. No downside there to them making a decision. For the consumer there's at best no up or down side if the particular consumer doesn't need or care about what's no longer there and certainly some downside for those who might need a power adapter.
The potential upside to the consumer is no price increase, which is a fact (what is a guess is that the price is flat due to removal of the charging brick). The consumer traded convenience for price. Which depending on your point of view can be an upside or a downside.
The price part of it doesn't hold up given that the SE remained the phone that it was with the same price while what came with it has been changed with items been removed. Not sure why that keeps on getting conveniently overlooked each time it gets brought up to essentially just take things back into going in the same circle.
It could be that Apple was thinking of increasing the price of the SE also and removal of the power brick mitigated that price increase. As we don't know what Apple was thinking, some of this is still all conjecture. I agree that it goes round and round because the facts aren't known and only assumptions can be made.
Why would they increase the price of a released device? Even as a potential assumption something like that is rather odd. There are certainly reasonable things that can indicate something over something else, even if not everything can be completely known.
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What I'm saying is neither you, nor anyone else, get to give Samsung a pass based on "installed" charging base. Whether it's quick or not. The important thing isn't that the charger is "quick" - It's that Apple offers no in-box charger, period. It doesn't matter that every single pre-existing charging solution that charged an iPhone 11 still continues to charge the iPhone 12 phones. It doesnt matter that you can get a far more feature filled Anker 4-port charger with USB-c, compared to Apple's single port charger. Again, the discussions and accusations being made are that consumers are going to be blindsided and "unable" to charge their phone. Not only, because of no charger, but because Apple included the USB-c ended lightning cable.
But, let's say, they left the Lightning cable USB-a ended... Where would the conspiracy / criticism go? I'm going to take a wild wild guess and guess that the argument would go, "Oh... see Apple strategically gave you only the USB-a ended Lightning cable so that -IF- you desire "fast" charging *then* you'll have to spend even more to buy their own USB-c ended Lightning cable AND their own USB-c charger." "See, if they included the USB-c Lightning cable they'd have cut themselves out on cable sales. You, might even discover you don't even need their own expensive single port charger!"
But, coming back full circle, it's a super easy "Win" for Samsung, here. Just leave the fast charger in the box and shread Apple to all heck for dropping even the 5w charge cube. Instead, now Samsung is yanking long established fast charging. Samsung should be destroyed for this. But, you seem to want to give them the benefit of the doubt here.
Why is Apple dropping the crappy 5w charger the worst thing ever and abject anti-consumerism. But, Samsung dropping not only charging, but FAST charging - different?
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It generally tends to be. That aside, whatever the reason, it seems like things have been going down a rabbit hole of sorts mostly spiraling coming back to the same things that have already been covered.