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The fact Apple store hasn't gone down means 2 possibilities.
  1. There is no hardware announcement at all.
  2. There is hardware announcement, but without ordering date or the date is in a distance future.
 
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I’m sure Apple would have *liked* to announce or release new MBPs at WWDC. My guess is that shortages and production slowdowns are having an effect, and they’ve decided to hold off until they have more supply ready. A press release later this summer would be a strange way to announce a redesign, but this is a weird year (and a half) and I think anything is possible.
 
Despite the leaker reporting, hasn’t most of the analyst reporting from Kuo/Gurman etc. on this indicated that MBP’s would enter production in the second half of the year i.e Q3. That would mean production ramp in July and shipping late Aug/September.
 
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Despite the leaker reporting, hasn’t most of the analyst reporting from Kuo/Gurman etc. on this indicated that MBP’s would enter production in the second half of the year i.e Q3. That would mean production ramp in July and shipping late Aug/September.
People here just want to bash on Jon Prosser
 
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Cheese grater Mac Pro in 2019. Pro Display XDR too. Note the WWDC19 logo at the bottom left.

Was not RELEASED at WWDC, though, right? Actually released much later?

Apple has released hardware at 65% of WWDCs
I think it depends on what you mean by “released”. Like if you consider 2019 a “release” when they just talked about it and didn’t actually “release” anything, that would help to explain your 65% number. Oh, and I’d imagine you’re not counting ALL WWDC’s, but just the ones from a certain year forward?
 
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Because no one will watch in August- everyone's on vacation and tuned out. And an October announcement runs up against iPhone season and shipping misses the important back-to-school / work crowd.
Barring any major holiday, Apple could announce an event on ANY day in ANY month and everyone that wants to drive traffic to their site (which is everyone with a site) would be talking about it in the days leading up to it and for weeks after it. Even the daytime puff shows know that tossing in an Apple reference is good for business.
 
Barring any major holiday, Apple could announce an event on ANY day in ANY month and everyone that wants to drive traffic to their site (which is everyone with a site) would be talking about it in the days leading up to it and for weeks after it. Even the daytime puff shows know that tossing in an Apple reference is good for business.
Well, I'm sure they could if they wanted to but I don't think they would ideally want to announce in August. That's why if it's not today, it will be September.

Of course, it is an unusual year with supply constraints, pandemic, etc. so maybe they will be forced to announce then.
 
He only shaved off his eye brows because everyone called him out for being wrong all the time. Prosser is notorious for deleting tweets to try and hide the fact that he is wrong more often than he is correct.
So I'm sure you have screenshots proving that then.
 
Unless I missed it, the person who wrote this article didn't bother with an English translation. So here goes:

First tweet: "I feel no." (hardware).

Second tweet: "I feel that 14-inch and 16-inch should not be so fast."
 
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Unless I missed it, the person who wrote this article didn't bother with an English translation. So here goes"

First tweet: "I feel no." (hardware).

Second tweet: "I feel that 14-inch and 16-inch should not be so fast."
Yup. Google translate may not be perfect, and there may be some hedging here, but it's not super clear. See my above post. I'm not sure why everyone would treat this as gospel. there seems to be some hedging...
 
Was not RELEASED at WWDC, though, right? Actually released much later?


I think it depends on what you mean by “released”. Like if you consider 2019 a “release” when they just talked about it and didn’t actually “release” anything, that would help to explain your 65% number. Oh, and I’d imagine you’re not counting ALL WWDC’s, but just the ones from a certain year forward?
You're picking nits now. I think most people here are looking for an announcement, and not necessarily a same day release.

Yup. Google translate may not be perfect, and there may be some hedging here, but it's not super clear. See my above post. I'm not sure why everyone would treat this as gospel. there seems to be some hedging...
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, it's definitely more hedged than his usual leak posts.
 
Exactly. I’m an iOS developer and I’m pretty jazzed for WWDC. It doesn’t matter to me whether there‘s hardware or not.
I’m not a developer but still love seeing what features are coming to all my Apple hardware in the fall every year. I do all my work on MacOS/iOS all day every day! Why would I not want to know about new capabilities for the most important software in my life?
 
The fact Apple store hasn't gone down means 2 possibilities.
  1. There is no hardware announcement at all.
  2. There is hardware announcement, but without ordering date or the date is in a distance future.

Hardware announcement means putting up prices on the Apple Store even without the ability for consumers to order.

The Store would have been down.
 
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People here just want to bash on Jon Prosser
Strange response. Prosser might be right or wrong and they could announce but the analysts sources are usually supply chain based hence the production/shipping timelines tend to be a more accurate indicator of when the machine might get in the hands of consumers. It is rare for Apple to announce product so far ahead of shipping but not unheard of.
 
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Today will be like WWDC '20 - announce next gen chip, ship a scaled down model to devs in the current Mac mini.

Later in year we get an event for new MacBooks, which will also reveal number of cores etc.

Announcement timeline for Macs becomes like iPad and iPhone – reveal new OS in summer at WWDC, reveal new hardware in autumn.
 
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Of course, his / her most recent tweet in response to 'if we're basing this on feeling then how can we expect to be reliable' was '我本来就是说着玩的 我一点也不靠谱 当个玩笑看就好啦' which according to google translate means 'I'm just talking about playing, I'm not reliable at all, just look at it as a joke'...

see my post #200. This is sarcasm
 
Today will be like WWDC '20 - announce next gen chip, ship a scaled down model to devs in the current Mac mini.

Later in year we get an event for new MacBooks, which will also reveal number of cores etc.

Announcement timeline for Macs becomes like iPad and iPhone – reveal new OS in summer at WWDC, reveal new hardware in autumn.
Ahh, that's true, they could show off the chip in the current Mac mini. Good call.

Massive disappointment there will be no MacBooks, however, if true.
 
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Ahh, that's true, they could show off the chip in the current Mac mini. Good call.

Massive disappointment there will be no MacBooks, however, if true.

Yeah I'm gunning for that 16" MBP! Was really hoping it'd be announced today, ship in a month like the iMac.

It is VERY soon for new Macs though. M1 not shipping even a year. Reckon we'll get them at a fall event.

And that the Apple.com store is still up makes it even less likely. They had taken it down for the April event, even though shipping wasn't for weeks later.

Might bite the bullet and get that yellow iMac.
 
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