Tim Cook said they would be releasing more intel machines at WWDC. Surely he didn't just mean a single 27" iMac.
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Reliable Leaker Suggests Redesigned MacBooks in 2021 Will Include Both Apple Silicon and Intel Models
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My guess is due to discrete GPUs. I wonder if they don't have a good way for M-series chips to interface with discrete graphics yet, and thus those that require discrete graphics must continue to use Intel chips.
They could leave one Intel laptop, one Intel imac and one Intel macpro for sale for years.
They did this for the last 13“ MBP with Superdrive, firewire and ethernet.
No need to introduce new ones, and redesigned at that! (that’s also gonna need a “T3“ if we’re talking stuff like FaceID)
This makes perfect sense. I don't know why people would find it so hard to believe. Some customers will need Intel Macs for years to come. They will be in the minority, but they exist. For example, I knew a print shop that was running PowerPC Macs for almost a decade after the Intel transition, because they were forced to use custom PowerPC software to run some machinery. The software did not work under Rosetta and did not exist in Intel form. Furthermore, it could not be easily (aka cheaply) updated to work on Intel.
I just didn't know if Apple would just keep several 2020 Intel models around, or else if they would release new ones as a last hurrah. This leaker has dreamed the latter.
I just didn't know if Apple would just keep several 2020 Intel models around, or else if they would release new ones as a last hurrah. This leaker has dreamed the latter.
Yes makes total sense ... NOT only idiots would do that, wait it’s Apple under Tim so yea ... guess he is right.
Are you implying that the transition will take 3 to 3.5 years instead of 2?
I'm sure they will keep Intel just to make their new Macs feel better, it's awesome marketing strategy: "Look those awful and expensive Intel models vs our best performing affordable new Macs"
Also, wonder what the Mac Mini redesign will be like - smaller space gray apple TV box?
Also, wonder what the Mac Mini redesign will be like - smaller space gray apple TV box?
It’s awaiting its new chip. The even-higher performance, pro version of the M1.
we will never see another Intel processor on new Macs. Probably Mac Pros will be updated with new Xeons and Big Navis. Regarding egpus Apple has to decide whether to develop drivers for AMD gpus compatible with M cpus. I bet Apple already has its own professional gpu running on pci faster than RTXs.
That's a good point, although I'd wager whatever machines they keep on sale will have to remain somewhat competitive with PC offerings to maintain an edge in the school district/office sales realm. Remember a lot of those large purchases happen early Spring, so that they can set them up over summer and redeploy for the new school year. They often need special software to run the school's proprietary app's.
Hard to believe because there are two possible options:
The release new MBP with OLD Intel chips. Which seems pointless at least to me. What is the gain?
The release new MBP with 11Gen parts with Intel XE GPUs. They gains some iGPU performance gains, and maybe some battery life. But they incur a brand new Intel legacy support penalty right in the middle of a their transition away from Intel.
Which lesser of evils option do you find desirable?
Exactly, "Love to Dream" likes to keep people guessing. He's very accurate but he often uses riddles or dual meaning sentences. I think he meant more than just new Silicon instead of Intel and AS.
If you think about it, with the
- 2018 Mac Mini
- 2019 Mac Pro
- 2019 MBP 16”
- 2020 Intel Comet Lake iMacs
- eGPU support added in March 2018
we have already been blessed with a streak of awesome “last hurrahs” to keep living the “Intel Mac life” at its fullest for years to come
what exactly a new Intel hardware would afford?
only thing I could think of is Intel not making those CPUs any longer so Apple is forced to move to newer Intel CPUs
My guess is that they might offer Intel Macs with current designs and spec updates for the next year or two but I doubt anything redesigned at this point would have Intel chips. The M1 Macs don't need all of the fans and ventilation that Intel Macs require so I assume Apple plans to take advantage of the extra space that they'll have when they're redesigning them.
This guy is probably the most reliable leaker in the game right now, batting average is incredible, but this just makes absolutely no sense at all to me.
If they're going to offer redesigned MacBooks with Intel still inside, that means they will have had to take into account Intel's processors during the design phase.. So they will likely diminish the design they could have had if just designing for ASi because it'll be hampered to accommodate the inferior thermal performance of Intel chips.
And why continue releasing Intel Macs a year into the transition anyway?? Really doesn't add up and I hate that we have to wait 7-12 months to find out what the plan is.
If they're going to offer redesigned MacBooks with Intel still inside, that means they will have had to take into account Intel's processors during the design phase.. So they will likely diminish the design they could have had if just designing for ASi because it'll be hampered to accommodate the inferior thermal performance of Intel chips.
And why continue releasing Intel Macs a year into the transition anyway?? Really doesn't add up and I hate that we have to wait 7-12 months to find out what the plan is.
To all the people complaining & asking why... Just. Stop. This is good news if true and you're embarrassing yourself by trying to pretend otherwise.
We get it, you're excited by what the M1 has demonstrated and can't wait to see the possibilities of Apple Silicon coming to other Macs. Heck I'm excited and considering trading in my 13" MBP for an M1 MBA! But some of us still need (ex. virtualization) or want x86 (why I'll still have a hackintosh even if I get rid of my MBP), and for many of those people that do this could mean the difference between their next computer being a Mac or something else entirely.
This would also be really great news as it would more or less ensure that Apple will continue supporting the latest versions of macOS on X86 for many years after 2021. This is a good thing. Nobody wants to see Apple drop new release support for X86 after a few short years like they did with PowerPC.
We get it, you're excited by what the M1 has demonstrated and can't wait to see the possibilities of Apple Silicon coming to other Macs. Heck I'm excited and considering trading in my 13" MBP for an M1 MBA! But some of us still need (ex. virtualization) or want x86 (why I'll still have a hackintosh even if I get rid of my MBP), and for many of those people that do this could mean the difference between their next computer being a Mac or something else entirely.
This would also be really great news as it would more or less ensure that Apple will continue supporting the latest versions of macOS on X86 for many years after 2021. This is a good thing. Nobody wants to see Apple drop new release support for X86 after a few short years like they did with PowerPC.
Dropping M procs into existing designs isn't particularly interesting beyond validating the concept, I'm FAR more interested in what new designs and features Apple can come up in new designs post-x86.
Designing to accommodate Intel's 7000 degree chips will stifle innovation in the form-factor. It's not good news.
This is good news, means that people who need boot camp for a few more years can do so and also means for those of us with newish Macs we will get newer versions and updates of OS11 For longer.