Yes I agree. Love to dream is normally quite cryptic, I think this has a different meaning rather than suggesting Apple are going to redesign Intel machines as well. I just can't see them doing that at all. Surely not. I think it means there are bigger surprises coming to the laptops than we realise. Could be touch screen or face ID or something similar.
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Reliable Leaker Suggests Redesigned MacBooks in 2021 Will Include Both Apple Silicon and Intel Models
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This is an insanely smart move for 2 reasons:
- The more obvious one: they would get accused of not catering to professionals if they don't offer Intel Macs to all the people whose software isn't compatible with Arm yet
- The not so obvious but genius one: if they continue offering Intel alternatives, that gives them a reference point to keep showing how much faster Arm CPUs are
Can’t wait to see all-new shiny redesigned Intel Macbook Pros with mini-LED, FaceID and 5G.
Side by side stealing away display space from Apple Silicon Macs on the floor of Apple Stores around the world.
They’ll be on display next to Airpower mats. And by that time Trump will have sworn as 46th once this whole rigged election thing is sorted out.
Anybody wanna buy a bridge?
Side by side stealing away display space from Apple Silicon Macs on the floor of Apple Stores around the world.
They’ll be on display next to Airpower mats. And by that time Trump will have sworn as 46th once this whole rigged election thing is sorted out.
Anybody wanna buy a bridge?
Why would it take longer? The two year time frame is more than enough time to complete the transition. A huge chunk of apps are already converted and everyone else has plenty of time to get their apps sorted.
This is unlikely! If they redesign a MacBook, they will change the thermal envelope to take advantage of the Apple silicone. The M1 MacBook Air and Pro chassis are overkill for the heat generated.
Yeahhh something tells me he isn’t referring to Intel here or maybe he’s not JUST referring to Intel.
FaceID would be awesome, but not a guarantee for notebooks. The new iPad Air proves that they don’t want to get rid of Touch ID. I think we’ll see it Face ID on the new iMacs though.
FaceID would be awesome, but not a guarantee for notebooks. The new iPad Air proves that they don’t want to get rid of Touch ID. I think we’ll see it Face ID on the new iMacs though.
As already mentioned, the original tweet didn't actually say a new enclosure for new Intel Macs. That was MacRumors' interprettation.
What was the context of that quote? Was he referring to Tim’s quote at wwdc “we have some new intel based macs in the pipeline that we’re really excited about”? Was Joz saying that other than that one iMac there will be no more new intel macs? Or just a link would suffice, thanks. I tried searching but only found one article in another language, so I couldn’t pull any context unfortunately.
Reliable Leaker Suggests Redesigned MacBooks in 2021 Will Include Both Apple Silicon and Intel Models
In case anyone missed this interview https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/we-are-giddy-interviewing-apple-about-its-mac-silicon-revolution/ Notably, Apple didn't update the higher-end configurations of the MacBook Pro or Mac mini—the devices with pro-user-friendly 32GB or 64GB of RAM, or...
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If Apple redesigned the 16" into a 17" my brain would explode, and so would my wallet.
- Typed from my 2011 17" MBP
- Typed from my 2011 17" MBP
Great question. Dell has had an amazing borderless screen for years now and apple still hasn’t felt the need to catch up. If they could get a little more modern (not by trying something trendy like a new keyboard or moving to usb c) but just by implementing something we’ve already successfully seen I’d be all over it.
Thanks for the link.Reliable Leaker Suggests Redesigned MacBooks in 2021 Will Include Both Apple Silicon and Intel Models
In case anyone missed this interview https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/we-are-giddy-interviewing-apple-about-its-mac-silicon-revolution/ Notably, Apple didn't update the higher-end configurations of the MacBook Pro or Mac mini—the devices with pro-user-friendly 32GB or 64GB of RAM, or...
It’s far from definitive since he’s not being direct, in usual Apple fashion, but it does seem a bit like he’s implying there are no more Intel Macs coming. But if that is the case, it makes Tim’s statement at WWDC false or at best disingenuous, since he did say that they were “really excited” about new intel-based “Macs” (plural), when all that was released was one updated spec iMac. They might defend the plural use of the word “Mac” by arguing that it is constituted by different configurations of the new iMac, but if that was the intention, then that seems highly like leading on, since in this context most would interpret “Macs” as different models of Macs, rather than different configurations of one model of Mac, or worse yet, the literal number of units of the new iMac produced.
There’s no way he would have pinpointed the number of upcoming Intel macs to one and just said “the upcoming Intel Mac”.
“Macs” is the suitable generic plural for that kind of sentence...
“Macs” is the suitable generic plural for that kind of sentence...
I love what Apple is doing with their own SOCs but I won't be switching to them immediately for pragmatic reasons - I will wait until every single piece of software I'm using is recompiled for the ARM architecture.
They said it would take 2 years to replace current Intel models with Apple Silicon models. They did NOT say that they'd keep producing new Intel Mac models once Apple Silicon Macs started to ship.
So you think they will have machines go up to 3 years without updates? Btw the boot camp update already leaked an Intel 16 mbp, so that’s all but confirmed to happen.
Here is what is going to happen with the transition to AS, There will be two rounds:
Round 1 (Start: Nov 2020 End: June 2021) :
Purpose: The plan is to only update the "Consumer Models." basically doing a "public beta" on the consumers who do not fully use their devices (social media, web browsing, video consumption, etc.)
Devices Updated: MBA (the whole lineup) MBP 13 (only the baseline with 2 thunderbolt ports) MBP16 (only the baseline) The iMac (baseline with 24")
They will leave the "Pro" models with intel without any update.
New Design?: none of the products will be redesigned except the iMac 24"
Round 2 (Start: Oct / Nov 2021 End: June 2022)
Purpose: The plan is to only update the "Pro Models." This is in my opinion "the real and "worth it" " transition to AS.
Devices Updated: MBP 14 (only the one with 4 thunderbolt ports) MBP16.1 (both the baseline and high end) the iMac (the 32") the Mac Pro (with smaller size)
New Design: All these devices will receive a new redesign, mini led, and face ID.
Round 1 (Start: Nov 2020 End: June 2021) :
Purpose: The plan is to only update the "Consumer Models." basically doing a "public beta" on the consumers who do not fully use their devices (social media, web browsing, video consumption, etc.)
Devices Updated: MBA (the whole lineup) MBP 13 (only the baseline with 2 thunderbolt ports) MBP16 (only the baseline) The iMac (baseline with 24")
They will leave the "Pro" models with intel without any update.
New Design?: none of the products will be redesigned except the iMac 24"
Round 2 (Start: Oct / Nov 2021 End: June 2022)
Purpose: The plan is to only update the "Pro Models." This is in my opinion "the real and "worth it" " transition to AS.
Devices Updated: MBP 14 (only the one with 4 thunderbolt ports) MBP16.1 (both the baseline and high end) the iMac (the 32") the Mac Pro (with smaller size)
New Design: All these devices will receive a new redesign, mini led, and face ID.
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Because it has stronger chipset and proper I/O bandwidth. Something M chipset lacks so far. Keep in mind that not even AMD has mastered chipset technology integration like Intel did, also Apple plan is to be dependent on Intel technology on chipset as well despite using their own SoC.
Exactly! If you use a Mac for software development that does not involve Xcode, the M1 based Macs aren't a great option right now. I love with tools like Docker, which isn't running on M1 yet. Then there's development environments like OpenJDK, NodeJS, .NET, Go, Rust, GraalVM, etc. that are still not available on M1. These environments also need to be able to target the M1 instruction set, so it's not enough to rely on Rosetta. This is why I bought a new Intel MacBook Pro - compatibility.
Another round of Intel devices makes total sense from a compatibility perspective - and only for compatibility. I think it'll also be a great opportunity to pit Apple Silicon against the latest Intel chips in the same device. In this case, Apple is literally building a dual-chip motherboard that would allow any one to run both of the latest chips side by side. A literal "Apple to Apple" comparison if you will
