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It was just a light tap!
I doubt it. I've had foldables for years and narry a dent in any one of them.

So, we both spend the next few minutes drawing smiley faces on that screen. They are there forever. You can see them while the screen is active (unlike the crease, for me at least).
I hope the store charged you for that phone -- you break it, you buy it.
 
Now come, post your photos of your two gorgeous devices, young man. I sincerely want to see it.
Android users get so defensive :)

I will say the Moto Razr looks really decent (if you can get around the OS).
They're making money, but in my opinion, they've lost there way; or at least lost their identity.
I actually prefer the conservative nature Apple has these days over creating products just for the sake of being first and half-baked ala Samsung/Android.
I'm with you. I really wish Apple would wake up and make a fold.

I genuinely hope they dont and this goes the way of 3D phones. A cool gimmick that will largely become irrelevant.
 
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I genuinely hope they dont and this goes the way of 3D phones. A cool gimmick that will largely become irrelevant.
You do know you don't have to buy one if you don't like it -- so unless Apple switches to only foldables (not at all likely), your life isn't changed at all by a new line of foldables. I want a foldable, so how is that hurting you?
 
Uh guys. The folding iPad would have an OLED. You know apple will only trickle in one new feature at a time to milk as much money as possible from it, which also makes them slow to add new things each iteration. I mean why would we see both new iPads with OLED _AND_ iPads with folding OLEDs. They would just cannibalize each other.

Much better to release the OLED to the high end model to maximize profit. Then upgrade the processor on that one. And then maybe some other random feature while bringing OLED to the low end iPads. And then a slight processor bump with new colors but everything else stays the same pretty much. Then maybe we'll get a folding iPad Mini Pro. In about 5 or 6 years.

That said I do enjoy a folding phone. The Oneplus Open changed my opinion.
 
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You do know you don't have to buy one if you don't like it -- so unless Apple switches to only foldables (not at all likely), your life isn't changed at all by a new line of foldables. I want a foldable, so how is that hurting you?
I am well aware of that?

I'd like a lot of things does not mean they need to be made. I rather Apple spend time making something new and innovative and useful. Not reinventing flip phones. Better use of time and resources than following an Android trend like most that wind up dying after poor adoption.
 
I'd like a lot of things does not mean they need to be made. I rather Apple spend time making something new and innovative and useful. Not reinventing flip phones. Better use of time and resources than following an Android trend like most that wind up dying after poor adoption.
So it's okay if you want it, but what I want doesn't mean a thing, gotcha. News for you -- folding phones aren't dying out.
 
I’m very surprised that no one mentions any more that you can completely destroy foldable screens, even the newest models, with *gentle pressure* from your fingernail. We went into a Best Buy and were playing around with a Z Fold 5. It was honestly pretty good. I didn’t notice the crease while it was on. Then I go to tap the screen and my partner mentions that I’ve just left a massive divot in the screen. It was just a light tap! So, we both spend the next few minutes drawing smiley faces on that screen. They are there forever. You can see them while the screen is active (unlike the crease, for me at least).

I could never own something that I could break through gentle, normal usage. To be fair, I also hate the notch. I think the floating island is slightly better. But, I also hate Face ID (I’m almost always in glasses and mask), so I’m still “rocking” my iPhone 8+.

"Then I go to tap the screen and my partner mentions that I’ve just left a massive divot in the screen. It was just a light tap!"

I call BS, complete and utter fabricated nonsense. A very heavy fingernail will definitely impact the screen, but a "light tap" will not, you have to be actively trying to gouge it with your fingernail. Don't believe me? There are tons of durability videos of foldables on YouTube. I'm now on my 4th year of owning a foldable and don't have a single blemish on any of my devices. If anything the argument can be made on the flip side, foldable screens are in a way MORE resilient to damage than non foldables because they can close up and protect the inner screen while being transported. My foldable inner screen is a lot more pristine than my iPhone Max Pro which has microscratches all over the front.
 
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So it's okay if you want it, but what I want doesn't mean a thing, gotcha. News for you -- folding phones aren't dying out.
they certainly arent mainstream yet either. Certainly are not selling anywhere near Galaxy S/iPhone level of units.

But hey maybe they will stay on Android. I rather Apple not make such gimmicky devices. But as we have seen with most things apple generally does later, they tend to thankfully make them better and more refined.

It's also why I am glad that Apple is not chasing after these megapixel wars with Android because it is absolutely ridiculous and most of the phones are terrible camerawise. Refine what they have.

I imagine if and when Apple does do a foldable, it will be more than adequate. As i always say with Android, they are first for many of things and yet it takes them years to actually be of any good.

If you want to be technical, Android has been doing foldables for over a decade LMAO. The kyocera echo from sprint being the first mainstream Foldable device. Terrible phone. I actually owned one back in like 2011. It was literally 2 screens and they even supplied a 2nd battery with it lmao.

Microsoft failed miserably. Motorola is....doing something, I guess. Pixels are essentially irrelevant in the grand scheme mainstream. Galaxy folds have been here since 2019 and it took the current Generation to be worthwhile and noteworthy but still not appealing to the masses.

I dont forsee them being anything in the future past 2026.
 
"Then I go to tap the screen and my partner mentions that I’ve just left a massive divot in the screen. It was just a light tap!"

I call BS, complete and utter fabricated nonsense. A very heavy fingernail will definitely impact the screen, but a "light tap" will not, you have to be actively trying to gouge it with your fingernail. Don't believe me? There are tons of durability videos of foldables on YouTube. I'm now on my 4th year of owning a foldable and don't have a single blemish on any of my devices. If anything the argument can be made on the flip side, foldable screens are in a way MORE resilient to damage than non foldables because they can close up and protect the inner screen while being transported. My foldable inner screen is a lot more pristine than my iPhone Max Pro which has microscratches all over the front.
SO because you have no issues that means devices arent fragile lol.

I have literally read posts on Android reddits where actual users have mentioned that they barely dropped their device and the device fractured/shattered. Or keys scratched or like the OP, they barely tapped with a finger.

Michael fisher (whose reviews i love...wish he did more apple stuff) showed a video where his Galaxy Fold literally broken when he flipped it open and dropped it from not that high of a height.

Considering all they are working with, Foldables are far more fragile than regular slabs.
 
I am starting to see these videos pop up in my feed.


It's a pair of glasses that connects to your computing device and acts as a giant display. This feels like the real value to me. If you argue that foldables are useful because they pack a larger screen into a more compact form factor (and even then, it's still smaller than an iPad mini), why then are people objecting to smart glasses that pack a display that's as wide as your entire field of view, into a form factor that's no larger than a pair of ski googles, and which you don't even need to hold up?

People criticise the short battery life, but smartphones too had fairly short battery life once upon a time too. If people could compensate for this via power banks, why can't they do likewise by carrying around an additional battery back or two for the Vision Pro? If people say it looks funny, well, AirPods were also initially ridiculed at the time of announcement, and it's practically the poster child for wireless earbuds these days.

I completely agree here if Apple could get their headset this small, portable, and comfortable. Although obviously this technology exists, and Apple can well afford to make such a headset, they chose a larger and much more feature rich product. I would love to see Apple make a simple set of glasses like this one with only one purpose, to give you a large monitor, THAT is something which might give foldables a run for my money. I've always said that foldables are just a stepping stone to a different paradigm, at the end of the day we all just want larger screens.
 
SO because you have no issues that means devices arent fragile lol.

I have literally read posts on Android reddits where actual users have mentioned that they barely dropped their device and the device fractured/shattered. Or keys scratched or like the OP, they barely tapped with a finger.

Michael fisher (whose reviews i love...wish he did more apple stuff) showed a video where his Galaxy Fold literally broken when he flipped it open and dropped it from not that high of a height.

Considering all they are working with, Foldables are far more fragile than regular slabs.

No, because pretty much everyone else has had no issues with a "light tap" causing a "massive divot." I am not saying foldables are not more delicate (although less delicate in some ways as I mentioned), I am specifically calling out that one poster who wanted to spew BS.

PS You can see all sorts of YouTube videos and damage like you describe can be seen in ANY smartphone. It's just not a persuasive argument in any way. Foldables are quite robust, again go see the dozens of videos demonstrating this, with particular weak points, yet still used by millions every day with little issue. Either paradigm has its pluses and minuses.
 
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No, because pretty much everyone else has had no issues with a "light tap" causing a "massive divot." I am not saying foldables are not more delicate (although less delicate in some ways as I mentioned), I am specifically calling out that one poster who wanted to spew BS.
you dont get to tell someone their experience is BS just because you believe it is durable lol. like what....i get yall feel this need to defend android like google is your overlord but come on now lmao
 
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Android users get so defensive :)

I will say the Moto Razr looks really decent (if you can get around the OS).

I genuinely hope they dont and this goes the way of 3D phones. A cool gimmick that will largely become irrelevant.
The RAZR+ with Magenta color really caught my eye. If only Apple could brace themselves and release Pro lineup in lively colors...

The two problems with folding screens are
1. At this current era, the screen will break eventually. It's only a matter of time.
2. The flex cable. No one has found a way to make an unbreakable one like laptop flex cable, to my bewilderment.
Whoever solve this two problems, undoubtedly they'll become the major player. Until then, this foldable will just a gimmick to me. Personally, I'd rather have my iPad + iPhone combo. It's cheaper as well.
 
The RAZR+ with Magenta color really caught my eye. If only Apple could brace themselves and release Pro lineup in lively colors...

The two problems with folding screens are
1. At this current era, the screen will break eventually. It's only a matter of time.
2. The flex cable. No one has found a way to make an unbreakable one like laptop flex cable, to my bewilderment.
Whoever solve this two problems, undoubtedly they'll become the major player. Until then, this foldable will just a gimmick to me. Personally, I'd rather have my iPad + iPhone combo. It's cheaper as well.
I agree the ipad/iphone is a perfect match.

I think you guys do confuse what the Pro is for. It really is not ideal in corporate settings to have a bright pink phone lol.

I do wish that Apple would at least release the colors it has in the past. Like the Purple, The Alpine Green, The Jet Black (From the 7 line), Product Red(maybe like a darker one), and the Blue from the 12 line. It still is fairly conservative compared to the brigthness of the 13/14 lines but it is still a bit brighter.
 
you dont get to tell someone their experience is BS just because you believe it is durable lol. like what....i get yall feel this need to defend android like google is your overlord but come on now lmao

Yes I get to call out someone saying a "light tap" caused a "massive divot," that's just physically impossible. If you disagree I CHALLENGE you to video that same scenario being true.... I'm waiting.... You are extrapolating my calling out obvious BS and exaggeration into me being an Android fanboy.
 
The RAZR+ with Magenta color really caught my eye. If only Apple could brace themselves and release Pro lineup in lively colors...

The two problems with folding screens are
1. At this current era, the screen will break eventually. It's only a matter of time.
2. The flex cable. No one has found a way to make an unbreakable one like laptop flex cable, to my bewilderment.
Whoever solve this two problems, undoubtedly they'll become the major player. Until then, this foldable will just a gimmick to me. Personally, I'd rather have my iPad + iPhone combo. It's cheaper as well.

As to point 1 sure you are not incorrect but at 200,000 folds as officially rated for the Fold 5 (I believe OnePlus rates theirs for 1 million folds), and yes they have specific hardware they use to test these. Will every single device reach these specs? Obviously not, just as every Honda will not reach 100,000 miles, but most reach this and pass it by a wide margin. 200,000 folds is about 100 folds/day for 5 years, your phone is going to be easily outdated in 5 years. With that said no one is saying the folding part is not another issue to worry about, clearly there is a trade off you make in accepting the risk, but that applies to any technology. There is plenty in a non-folding phone which can and does go wrong.
 
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Yes I get to call out someone saying a "light tap" caused a "massive divot," that's just physically impossible. If you disagree I CHALLENGE you to video that same scenario being true.... I'm waiting.... You are extrapolating my calling out obvious BS and exaggeration into me being an Android fanboy.
No i am saying you are behaving as such because you are trying to call someone a liar about their experience lol. There are people who complain about IOS 17 having all these major bugs. I have never once seen any of the bugs nor had any issues on my iphones since ios 17.

However, I would never tell someone their experience is BS. Thats rude and that does in fact seem more of being a zealot and unable to accept that the experience for everyone is not 100 percent perfect.

End of.
 
they certainly arent mainstream yet either.
I don't really agree. True they aren't the most sold, but there's a lot of them sold and almost every big phone maker now has one except Apple. They're still selling YoY everywhere. So definitely not dying out!


But hey maybe they will stay on Android. I rather Apple not make such gimmicky devices. But as we have seen with most things apple generally does later, they tend to thankfully make them better and more refined.

Well I want a foldable iPhone -- it might actually get me to buy a new iPhone again.
It's also why I am glad that Apple is not chasing after these megapixel wars with Android because it is absolutely ridiculous and most of the phones are terrible camerawise. Refine what they have.
I'd actually go less megapixel, get rid of the camera bumps. Apple, and others, spending a lot on cameras is a waste of money to me, but that doesn't make me hate hi megapixel phones, I just don't shop based on that.
If you want to be technical, Android has been doing foldables for over a decade LMAO. The kyocera echo from sprint being the first mainstream Foldable device. Terrible phone. I actually owned one back in like 2011. It was literally 2 screens and they even supplied a 2nd battery with it lmao.
I never had one, it was too big for me. It was very innovative for it's time though.

Microsoft failed miserably. Motorola is....doing something, I guess. Pixels are essentially irrelevant in the grand scheme mainstream. Galaxy folds have been here since 2019 and it took the current Generation to be worthwhile and noteworthy but still not appealing to the masses.
I've like them since the beginning. Yes, I had the first version.

Microsoft had a 2 screen phone, not a foldable. It's a totally different class than a foldable.

I dont forsee them being anything in the future past 2026.
Now that's funny.
 
How do you explain 65” OLED TVs?
The displays used in a television and used in phones and tablets aren’t always comparable.
One of them is a big device with much bigger pixels that’s constantly being powered directly from the wall.
The other is a 6-7 mm thin rectangle with millions and millions of tiny tiny pixels packed into it, that’s still supposed to operate on battery power for several hours.
 
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