They haven't been looking that hard.Apple, along with many US based firms, have been looking to decouple from China for many years. This predates Trump and the tariffs. Ie- Biden and the CHIPS act.
They haven't been looking that hard.Apple, along with many US based firms, have been looking to decouple from China for many years. This predates Trump and the tariffs. Ie- Biden and the CHIPS act.
But isn’t India just assembling devices? Do the tarrifs ignore that many of the components will still be Chinese?
Bottom line, it's NOT coming back to the US.
Of course one way to not pay tariffs is to make products in the US. Some of this will happen. The example that has been used is Honda building a new mega plant in the US.
So at the end of the day, manufacturing isn’t coming back to the US, meaning the tariffs really didn’t accomplish Trump’s goal. Got it.
Apple, along with many US based firms, have been looking to decouple from China for many years. This predates Trump and the tariffs. Ie- Biden and the CHIPS act.
This is false. Tariffs between the US and the EU have been roughly on par, for example. Trump just doesn't like that the US is buying more goods than they are selling, but is ignoring that the US is massively selling services more than they are buying.After WW2 nations that were devastated from the war (Germany, Japan, China etc) received very favorable tariffs. They paid little or nothing when selling their goods to the US but the US paid much higher tariffs when selling goods to them.
Challenge accepted! I’m not in the US illegally, never had my wife file a protective order on me, and have committed no crimes.
Now you go to China and do what I suggested. We’ll see which one of us has a better time.![]()
This is very true, but the current relationship setup with China is just a slow drip poison.Globalization won’t be reversed because it’s always existed in some form or another since the dawn of civilization.
For thousands of years people realized that to get certain items you have to source from different areas and regions where natural resources and skills are abundant. It’s just nature
Sure, some strategic and essential industry can be kept domestically but you need to have a surgical approach to it with a variety of incentives and subsidies etc. that just makes sense
But…that’s not how tariffs work. The country ‘selling’ to the USA doesn’t pay the tariff, the company buying the product (yes, the USA company) pays the tariff to the government.The was never the main goal of the tariff hammer. After WW2 nations that were devastated from the war (Germany, Japan, China etc) received very favorable tariffs. They paid little or nothing when selling their goods to the US but the US paid much higher tariffs when selling goods to them.
This was never readdressed and should have been 20 years ago. The primary goal of all of this is fare trade. Of course one way to not pay tariffs is to make products in the US. Some of this will happen. The example that has been used is Honda building a new mega plant in the US.
They don't want to pay American workers because you don't want to pay $2500 for a phone!Or they could just build them here... America was the world's factory, until the oligarchs decided they could profit more off of Chinese production with a manipulated currency and forced below market labor.
They used to say "we can only build in China"... but now they build in China and Brazil... so it's basically they just don't want to pay American workers.
So at the end of the day, manufacturing isn’t coming back to the US, meaning the tariffs really didn’t accomplish Trump’s goal. Got it.
It was not so much the oligarchs but Washington, DC that gave away US jobs and industries. I remember Nixon giving away the Domestic TV to Japan, just for their tacit support for the Vietnam War.They don't want to pay American workers because you don't want to pay $2500 for a phone!
Don’t have enough workers of that type to fill roles. We have skilled labor, but the manufacturing of these devices requires a set of engineering skills that isn’t standard in our educational system like it is in other countries. We are WAY behind in math, engineering and science compared to the rest of the world. We’re more fixated on making kids into bankers and brokers, which is why our new common core math is set up to be a speculators pipe dreamTime to let US beta test manufacturing.
Exactly. The oligarchs don’t want to pay people for the work, so machines and automation will be next. They’ll find out the higher price tag of maintaining and servicing will send their labor cost even higherManufacturing will come back to the U.S....if machines and robots are doing all the work.
The only way we have manufacturing is if no one actually has to be paid.
SOME manufacturing will hopefully come back to the U.S. It is mostly important for national security, but there is other manufacturing that would do well in the U.S., also. Steel and computer chips need to be made in the U.S. to avoid China having a monopoly on war manufacturing. Cars being assembled/made in the U.S makes sense because they’re expensive to ship from overseas. But I don’t think anyone actually expects ALL manufacturing to be done domestically.So at the end of the day, manufacturing isn’t coming back to the US, meaning the tariffs really didn’t accomplish Trump’s goal. Got it.
The only problem is you get no warranty with grey market devices. Only time will tell if Apple will sell AppleCare in the US for non-US market devices. If Apple 'Merica sells and honors AppleCare for non-US market devices, this make a sound financial choice.American consumers will be sneaking in gray market iPhones from outside the country not just to avoid tariffs, but also because of higher quality. What a strange sight to behold.
China isn't better in that regard.Ahhhhhh, India...the pillar of environmentalism and fair wages! #TimApple
They are not getting out of China. Most of the rest of the world will get their phones from China and many of the phone components will still be supplied by China.It wasn't coming back to the US and getting out of China is a good thing...