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We already know what happens with US manufacturing. Fender taught us. The price triples.

A guitar is ultimately some wood, steel, wire/magnets and a little plastic. For something as complex as an iPhone with the precision tolerance Apple requires, the price could quadruple.
And cheaper got us less jobs, leaving more people even unable to afford the cheap one....
 
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Samsung will partner with Apple, but advertise their line of "superior" smartphones with Sony sensors made in Japan.
I think this will be the Samsung ISOCELL HP9 200 MP which is slated to have better performance than Sony's ISOCELL HP2 which is in the iPhone 15pm-17PM and S23u-S25u. These camera sensors should start deploying in the S26U and iPhone 18pm? Sony should be alright though they already couldn't meet supply(Sony's sensors is used in Fujifilm, Canon, Nikon, Leica line of cameras) on their sensors and is developing their big 200MP sensors.
 
Yea! More price hikes incoming!
$2k base iPhone pro here.. we.. come!

iPhone payment plans are slowly moving towards motorcycle payment plan amts…especially if you need to buy two or more phones.
Ah yes, one camera sensor is going to double the price of the iPhones. Just say you are okay with using slave labor and be done with it...
 
Samsung needed to announce some big sales wins after their latest earnings release, and this is it.

If these sensors are truly going into 2026 iPhones then this has been developing for several years already and confidence is high.
 
If we a see a price increase from this, i’m out. Competition is too fierce to be overpaying because its components are made in a country nothing to do with me.
I’d think they would intro this on Pro models first, and they are supposedly already moving to aluminium on those models this year.

An uneducated guess originating from somewhere behind me: rumored price increase this year, will help offset this change next year. Reusing the design and possibly other components like RAM will allow Apple to keep the bill of materials in check.

But wait, there’s One More Thing…

The real offsets kick in when the Pro Stand drops to $979 and starts flying off the shelves. You heard it here first! /s
 
We already know what happens with US manufacturing. Fender taught us. The price triples.

A guitar is ultimately some wood, steel, wire/magnets and a little plastic. For something as complex as an iPhone with the precision tolerance Apple requires, the price could quadruple.
That's because you dishonestly left out the cost of the Tremolo option for the US spec on at a cost of -$1200.
 
Samsung needed to announce some big sales wins after their latest earnings release, and this is it.

If these sensors are truly going into 2026 iPhones then this has been developing for several years already and confidence is high.
It's a jump from 48MP to 200MP. Also if Sony think their sensors are still better they wouldn't be scrambling to make their own 200MP sensor. That being said I'm not really that excited for phone sensors and more excited for the Sony's full size sensors that is being developed in conjunction. I can't wait to see them in the next Fujifilm X series iteration. The X series namely the x100vi is already the closest thing to a perfect all around camera, the next step from that will be pretty amazing.
 
The claim that stack sensors have higher dynamic range seems dubious. I thought it was the other way around? While they do read out faster, that comes at the cost of dynamic range, doesn't it?
 
We already know what happens with US manufacturing. Fender taught us. The price triples.

A guitar is ultimately some wood, steel, wire/magnets and a little plastic. For something as complex as an iPhone with the precision tolerance Apple requires, the price could quadruple.
Not comparable. What will actually happen is, Chinese and Korean manufacturers (who are the ones with this knowhow) will build fully automated factories run by a handful of Asian engineers, sending the manufacturing profit to the owner in Korea/China. Resulting in an increase in American manufacturing jobs and American tax dollars of exactly zero.

I will bet good money that no human hand will touch this camera between components being rolled into the warehouse, and the camera being inserted into the phone. I hope Americans are happy being canteen ladies and floor sweepers, because those are the only American jobs that will be needed at those factories.
 
Samsung and Apple should join forces and do a hybrid iOS/Android phone that can switch OS's on the fly...
Like back in the day with the Windows emulators for the Mac.
I always thought it was crazy that you can have a fully operational Windows in your Mac but PC's could never run Mac OS...

That will never happen!
 
Finally jobs on American soil; done by highly trained teams overseas. Then the maintenance of those dark factories will also be done by highly specialized teams from overseas. Construction of facilities will bring jobs, then that’s it. America doesn’t have the work ethic tech and manufacturing companies need. I hate to tell the truth.
 
Apple has been very successful in its chip efforts.

Although this a complete new venture I believe they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Many iphones use Samsung displays, now they will start to use Samsung cameras. Eventually it seems like the only difference between buying a Samsung or Apple phone will be the OS.
Isn’t that why we buy Apple products in the first place. Better software, integration and privacy
 
There are companies that make stuff in the USA that’s amazing quality. I buy backpacks from GoRuck which they sell for about 10% to 20% more for USA-made versions versus Vietnam made. Most people who buy them are proud to have the American made versions. Though most reviews state the Vietnam versions seem identical in quality. People are willing to buy boots US made from many NW Companies that cost about 30% more than foreign made similar boots. People pay about triple for Filson clothing that’s made in the USA versus offshore. The point here is some people, myself included, will pay more to ensure US workers have jobs with living wages.
 
So the iPhone 17 series will be the last one to have good cameras. You heard it here first.

Ya know, had this comment been made in regards to any other country (Vietnam, India, Mexico, etc) it would have been called out as bigoted and possibly racist.

Plenty of foreign (non US based) companies produce high quality products in the USA for export. BMW's largest global production plant is in SC and many of those vehicles are exported back to Germany. MB, VW, Honda, and Toyota are additional examples of non US companies that make high quality products in the US.

The notion that US workers can't produce quality goods on par with those made in Taiwan, Japan, and Germany is rooted in the past. Poor design and management was the true cause of the problems that gave US manufacturing a bad name.

When you start with sound designs (like Apple, Toyota, or BMW) and apply the proper management and production processes, almost any person who has basic reading and math skills can be instructed on how to make quality products. There's no reason to believe the iPhone sensors made in the US will be in any way inferior to ones made in Asia.

Industrial process, quality control, superior designs, and best management practices have more impact on the quality of the end product than the nationality of the person working the line.

The big difference lies in where the value is added to the product as this impacts the GDP of the country where it is made. Being made in the US certainly has an impact on the US economy as a whole, independent of the wages and taxes paid by the workers. Alone it may not seem like that big of a deal But combine it with multiple companies making similar moves and the results snowball.

It's a net win for the US.
 
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