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Bigger battery doesn't equal better. Bigger battery is heavier, thicker and most importantly takes longer to load to 100%.

More efficient power usage = better.

I can't believe how short-sighted so many people are to miss this point.
 
Apple will keep lower spec from competitor for their future improvement on iPhone 6s. Longer battery life, just like 5S and 4S :)

Huh? I don't even remember Apple talking about battery life at the 5S event. :confused:

Yeah I'm sure the 6S or whatever it's called will have improved battery life over the 6. It's called progress, not artificially limiting a product so you can make the next generation look better.
 
I don;t know how old you are, or what your memories are of mobile phones.

A week would be Superb.
A month Amazing
A year Stunning

A day is not Great, sorry.

Don't forget one thing: It's not a phone, it's a small computer... if Apple (or any other manufacturer) would build a simple dumbphone (like in the old days) it probably would last weeks with current battery tech.
 
I don;t know how old you are, or what your memories are of mobile phones.

But I would not in a million years call a phone that needs to be realistically charged up every single day as having GREAT battery performance.

A week would be Superb.
A month Amazing
A year Stunning

A day is not Great, sorry.
I'm lucky if I can make it through the day with my phone.

Background services on, BT on, wifi on, I can NOT load any video or games because the battery will just plummet. I do close apps when they're not running and I leave it on the lowest brightness setting. A week would be great for a modern phone, but I'll happily take "easily handles 1 day of intensive use". Budgeting power seems so old fashioned!
 
I'm lucky if I can make it through the day with my phone.

Background services on, BT on, wifi on, I can NOT load any video or games because the battery will just plummet. I do close apps when they're not running and I leave it on the lowest brightness setting. A week would be great for a modern phone, but I'll happily take "easily handles 1 day of intensive use". Budgeting power seems so old fashioned!

Funny how those who are closing apps always complain about battery life. You could think, that they close apps because of the short battery life, but it could be the other way around as well. :cool:
 
"Actually, I can't remember the last time the 5s lasted me a whole day. It usually dies down around 4pm, if I don't use an external charger.

The problem is, there is only so much optimisation [sic] you can achieve before the laws of physics take over."


One has to be careful about extrapolating a personal experience as the norm. You're most probably getting less than a full day's worth because your 5s isn't set-up optimally. Stuff like open apps, Bluetooth, Localization, roaming, bad installs, etc. can drain a battery quickly. So can watching videos, checking email compulsively, and so on. While I think no one would complain if they could get several days off one charge, there is only so much energy you can squeeze from a thin little cell. So, if Apple can add a bunch of nice improvements and add an hour or two (realizing 10-hours or so on a charge), I think no one will complain...too much.

My iPhone hardly lasted a whole day of real use either.

This is the norm. That's why Samsung makes fun of this in commercials.

As far as "setting the phone optimally", that's nonsense it is just supposed to work.

My G2 lasts all day and then some with HEAVY all day use. Easily twice as much as my iPhone. I don't set up the phone this way. I don't do anything. I don't close any apps, I don't do anything. The only thing I turn off is location. That's it.

I turned everything off on my iPhone and still it died.

What's the point of having a smart phone if you have to turn off all the features?
 
The iPad is such a champ regarding battery life. Probably due to the size of the battery, but if apple could acheive similar on the iPhone , IMO that would be revolutionary.

Has apple said the iPhone 6 will be thinner than 5/5s? I've honestly never heard anyone complain about thickness IRL.
 
Well, I hope the iPhone 6 is silly enough for you - not sure that is one of Mr Ive's priorities though.

Though maybe if we see lots of clown pictures going up just before the September 9th announcement...

oh lol i didnt even notice this? i wrote that lol? :eek: what was i thinking? samsung??
 
The iPad is such a champ regarding battery life. Probably due to the size of the battery, but if apple could acheive similar on the iPhone , IMO that would be revolutionary.

Has apple said the iPhone 6 will be thinner than 5/5s? I've honestly never heard anyone complain about thickness IRL.

That's because, in my experience with the Mini, is because WiFi disconnects when you turn off the screen. What kills the battery are the services that are connected to the internet.

If you turn off data on your iPhone it'll last forever. Of course, that just makes it a dumb phone.
 
That's because, in my experience with the Mini, is because WiFi disconnects when you turn off the screen. What kills the battery are the services that are connected to the internet.

If you turn off data on your iPhone it'll last forever. Of course, that just makes it a dumb phone.

I have a cellular iPad though. Blows laptop/phone usage time per charge away.
 
This is good news so long as the new phone doesn't have a power draw directly proportional to the increase in battery capacity, but I'd be surprised if that were the case.

I've never found the iPhone 5's battery to be particularly bad, the only times it failed to get me through the day was related to running early betas of iOS7 last summer, and a rapidly aging battery. Now with a new battery and the iOS8 beta, I can happily get through 1.5-2 days without it dying on me.

My only real concern about an increased battery capacity is the charging time. After using a Nexus 5 for a few months at the beginning of the year, one of the things I noticed was how much longer it took to charge compared to my iPhone (which I have since switched back to). Even if you can't get through the day on a single charge, at least you can plug it in and charge it from dead to 50% in about half an hour.
 
Thank you.

People on this forum forget they're probably not the norm. My dad gets 2 days from his 5c - he's very light user, but I imagine there are more him then there are of 'us' on this forum. I get about 12 hours from my 5s. But I have an office job and I have a dock on my desk.

If battery was a real issue I'd get a battery pack case or one of them portable batteries. And I'd even look at other handsets.

Apple has offered 1 new phone a year. This is their trade-off. If it doesn't fit anyone's use case they need to look reduce the issue or take their business elsewhere.



Your estimates are on the next iPhone are interesting.

Anandtech shows the 'tiny' battery in the 5s competes quite well against the 3000 mAh Android flagships.

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More details here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/5

I think a bump from the current 1,560 mAh to 1,810 mAh would put he iPhone close to par with those flagships and 2,100 mAh would exceed them.

I guess we'll know for sure when the thing is released.



For watching videos or browsing the internet the iPhone battery is competitive, only because of the screen size. If you compare a basic task of talk time, iPhone battery life sucks! this is a major issue for a lot of people that use the iPhone for business and constantly are on the conference calls, etc. Add to that some emails and few other activities and the iPhone will die before noon if you do not keep it charged!

take a look at the and you will see what I am talking about
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-lumia-icon-battery-test/
btw, make sure to click EXPAND next to the comparison table for full results on the url above
 
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I want my phone to be slim and light and my 5s already have great battery performance.

Light I get, but I've never understood this obsession Apple has with "thinner". What exactly does that extra 1mm do for anyone? Even at the "thickness" of the 3GS, the phone was still thin. What, you can't fit it in your pocket unless it's paper thin?

All this obsession does is cost the consumer battery capacity for the sake of being able to say "it's the thinnest iPhone ever!" Big deal. Make that sucker 1mm thicker, slap a 3000 mAh battery in it and call it a day.

The biggest issue most smartphone users have is battery life...period. For the life of me, while Apple gets so many other things right, I can't understand why they're completely obsessed with making the iPhone thinner. Of course, at some point they run up against the laws of physics and the phone can't get any thinner. Even Apple can't engineer their way out of that one.
 
i actually want a bigger battery like the moto g atleast. i just hate it that my phone has to die during the day, while android phones can last for one or two days of heavy usage

Android phones do not last for two days of heavy usage. At the school, the only people carrying around their chargers with them all day long are Android users.
 
As with every other iPhone iteration, the "all-new" battery will just hold it's own - average users will JUST make the day on a charge. In order to go longer would require the user the toggle OFF all the great "new" features coming to iOS 8 - so much for the user experience if all you're doing is toggling off to save battery power.
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Put me down as one who isn't into thin over performance.
 
For some of us, improved device thinness is very important.

Why? Don't just say that. Give us definitive reasons why a phone any thinner than the current 5S is "very important" to YOU. What can't you do with the current iPhone that you'll be able to do with a thinner iPhone 6?

I'm not being smart...I sincerely want to know. This is one of those comments that I just don't understand.
 
Android phones do not last for two days of heavy usage. At the school, the only people carrying around their chargers with them all day long are Android users.

We're going to have to see evidence of that - biased anecdotal info ain't worth spit.
 
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