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Not really, that's why it hasn't been released yet. Not willing to compromise on design means that their only desire is to keep working at it until it works as intended with the intended design.
But even before the recent i9 issues there have been so many occasions where Apple have prioritised form over function which resulted in thermal throttling
 
Wireless is a misnomer, it is 'inductive' charging, as the device requires direct contact to the charging power source. Just like a cable connected from a power source to a device. 'wireless' charging charges or powers a receiving device without being physically connected.

I don’t see any wires between the charger and the phone. It is wireless. No need to be obtuse.
 
Ok I would love for Apple to do an exact placement for the watch, AirPods, and the phone! Who cares I can't just place it anywhere on the pad. I just want to charge all three at once. I think an exact placement that works and has Apple's standards certainly be a big seller. What am I missing here?
I don’t think Apple wants to bring a simple “me too” product to market. They wanted something better, more useful—and something they could charge a premium for. They may or may not be able to do that. They obviously thought they’d be able to last September, though.
 
I'd rather have a smaller pad capable of charging a single device for a start. Apple Watch is not Qi compatible so every time I go on vacation I need to bring two cables and at least one plug. Even when I'm at home I need to charge my Watch on the only place where I have the stand capable of charging.
I'd be willing to pay a premium for an Apple pad since I won't need the separate cable for the Watch (is isn't cheap at all) I don't really care about charging multiple devices at one. I mean, is cool, but if they can't find a way to do it properly they could just release a simple version.
It's either you own an old version of Apple Watch or you bought the wrong version of Qi charger. Amazon is actually selling a wider Qi charger that looks like the AirPower and charges Apple Watch and iPhone at the same time. The only missing is the special effects prompting on iPhone charging status, that thing has no practical use anyway. Save your money don't just throw them to Apple your just giving the ideas that you're willing to pay premium mentality.
 
I'm not trying to say Apple is a failure. I am just trying to understand from a layman's view. So if this pad I ordered works, why does Apple not want to do a similar design?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CP45WQW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Apple wants to build a place your device anywhere charger. Apple doesn't want to do a similar design because everyone already does that. They want to build something that no one else has. Something that stands out. Unfortunately, if rumors are true, their reach exceeds their grasp. Philosophically admirable, but probably should have kept that goal to themselves until they had it more fleshed out.
 
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I'm not trying to say Apple is a failure. I am just trying to understand from a layman's view. So if this pad I ordered works, why does Apple not want to do a similar design?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CP45WQW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Apple's idea is probably that the user doesn't need to think about how they place their apple devices on the charging pad. Just put it anywhere and it charges. It's certainly more than just 3 wireless chargers glued together. I mean, heck, it even runs its own OS!

But I guess past a certain point, the effort entailed may simply not be worth the benefits here.
 
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Why even bother? Just stick to the old fashioned way of charging devices: a 100% reliable, power cord.
Forgot the sarcasm tag? Apple devices are pretty much the only electronics in my home for which I have to buy new chargers every 1-2 years because the old ones get frayed and wires are exposed. Same thing on iPhones and Macbook chargers.
 
I understand that wireless is better than wired, but when the tech required to achieve it is this complicated and probably very expensive, I don't know if it's really worth it. Right now it sounds a bit silly that we'd be too lazy to physically plug the device in to charge once a day, using extremely simple and cheap technology.

I think that something that replaces an existing solution should:
  • Present a significantly better solution, not just a slightly better one
  • Be priced according to how well it performs in replacing the previous product.
The AirMat won't replace cables, because you won't be taking your AirMat with you wherever you go. So you still need cables and the AirMat. The AirMat will be much more expensive than the cable. And it will be less efficient, it will waste power, it will break, it will need firmware updates, etc...
 
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In the end, Apple got a bit too ambitious with the AirPower charger. Most other wireless pad charges charge one device at a time, not multiple devices at a time.
 
I don't get how they can build highly complex products like the iPhone but can't manage to get a charging mat to work.
 
They did with original iPhone, Original Apple Watch, AirPods and HomePod but they were more detailed on the release time. I'm not fan of products being showed before they are close to being completed. I don't get why show something that is not 100% sure to be release. Personally I find it embarrassing. Not because they scrap a project but because they show it to the world as a product coming before being done testing and challenges. Still better than being released with flaws I think.

For me the issue is that I can no longer trust something will ship until it ships in mass quantities. I replaced a Galaxy S7 with the X, and a huge part of that was due to wireless charging. Thankfully I can use my old Samsung Qi chargers, but as someone who also purchased airpods and an apple watch, I was really excited for this single mat charger. I was particularly excited for the airpods charger. Apple announcing AirPower definitely influenced my decision to buy.

And before someone goes all "buy you still got a lot from the device, or you can still use other Qi pads" understand that I don't care. I wanted the simplicity of a single-cable wireless-charging location for all of my devices. And that desire is not unreasonable because Apple showed it to us.

For me the issue here isn't "darn they couldn't do it - at least they didn't ship a crappy product" but rather "never trust us because we will kill a product we promised before we let it lower the bottom line".
 
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There are multiple charging stands that eliminate the placement issue. You can't place your phone in the wrong place one these stands... unless you're intentionally trying to place it in the wrong place. Charge landscape or vertical. You can't miss the charge area.
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So are you going to line 3 versions of those up on your bedside table (or wherever your hypothetical AirPower would go), and plug them into a power strip? Apple seems to have taken on too much, engineering-wise, but their solution would be way more elegant for use cases where there are multiple devices.

I must be missing something. I have worked with inductive coil chargers before, clear back in 1991-3 with the GM EV1 "Impact" electric car. They aren't rocket science. Just clearly mark on the pad where the phone goes, where the watch goes and where the AirPod case goes and design around the requirement that the user puts the device where it belongs so 1 charger can charge all 3 devices at once. From the articles I've read, it seems like the idea of being able to place a device anywhere on the pad and the pad figuring out what and where it is is adding a lot of complexity to what should be a pretty simple device. The charging mat could still identify the device so it doesn't overcharge the watch if it is put in the space where the phone is supposed to go but it wouldn't have to charge it if it were placed in the wrong spot.

I'm not trying to say Apple is a failure. I am just trying to understand from a layman's view. So if this pad I ordered works, why does Apple not want to do a similar design?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CP45WQW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

"Because Apple." Making it device- and location-indifferent externally causes it to be much more flexible and broadly-appealing IMHO. It is all mental manipulation based on customer satisfaction with the ease of use of the thing and how they interact with it every day. Hard to explain, perhaps. But a consumer doesn't have to worry about having an exact inventory of devices to maximize the use of the thing, and they're not constantly reminded that they are missing "a watch" or "the second phone" by looking at the "clearly marked" locations. It's aesthetic overkill, but that minimalist attitude is where Apple has been for a long time.

I get why they are designing it they way they are (though like I said, maybe it's hard to explain), and I think there would be a niche market for the thing (on the level of HomePod, maybe) - but luckily, flops (or even still-born products) in these smaller market areas aren't going to tarnish the brand that badly. I agree with others that I would not have announced the product so early if these reports of engineering challenges are true.
 
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I’m actually glad this happened to teach them a lesson. Apple has gotten far to cozy in recent years announcing stuff that ships late (messages in the cloud , AirPlay 2, etc etc etc ) or now this product that probably won’t ship at all in its current form for a long time. They need to just stop with all the preview garbage. Announce it when you can get in peoples hands in a few weeks.

Incoming Steve cliche except this time it’s dead on. He would have never allowed a pipe dream like AirPower to be announced so early. And he would have used his laser eye focus to burn whoever came up with iPhone XS MAX
 
I just re-watched the announcement. I feel like they weren't too confident. Schiller uses words like, "Want, "Think" and "Idea".
"Our team wants to create something"
"We're going to give you a sneak peak of this Idea right now."
"We think we have an idea of how to make this a better experience."

It was a concept.


He also put a lot of emphasis on how they wanted other manufacturers to innovate and push the limits on the standard.

"But our team knows how to do this" but he may very well have been wrong.

Exactly - the language used was not accidental as Apple won't want to run afoul of the law on forward-looking statements (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-looking_statement)
 
Color me shocked. I thought they had any issue resolved before they announced it.
I thought their biggest issue would be price.
 
Who says they weren’t? Do you have inside info that we don’t or just pure soeculstion?

No inside info, but if they WERE at 90% or higher in their testing, then they need to re-evaluate their testing milestones instead. Either way, they ****ed up.
 
With that level of complication the price would be way beyond acceptable levels.

Considering the Apple premium placed on it's products it's a foregone conclusion that it will be expensive. Apple rarely makes products for the budget conscious consumer. Apple is a luxury brand.

Wireless charging as it is now I find completely useless. There is no difference for me if i place phone or watch on the mat or hook it up via cable.

I thought the same thing, until I saw my wife place her phone X on the Belkin charge pad, vs me plugging in my iPhone 7 plus. It's a quality of life item. I wouldn't classify it as useless - i'd place it in the same category as wireless headphones. Are they necessary? No. Using a wire is just fine. But wireless are sure nice to have. I'd even submit that once you go wireless it may be hard to go back.

That technology is not promising. Once the real wireless technology will be available I will maybe change my mind. Lets say 3m range.

That's the iterative process. One day the idea of charging a battery will be a thing of the past. Lifelong batteries or batteries that perpetually charge themselves. The future is limitless.
 
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<snip>I agree with others that I would not have announced the product so early if these reports of engineering challenges are true.
Sure, that would have been best, especially now that it’s getting to the end of their availability window and it looks like they’re probably not going to make it.

But being over-optimistic is not really the disaster some of the posters here have made it out to be. Apple will be just fine, even if it turns out they bit off way more than they could chew and it never ships.
 
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Apple is not the type a company that will make a statement about the cancellation/delay with the Airpower. But what we do know, is that it likely was announced _way_ too early in September 2017, which is why it likely never had any marketing behind it there after, because of the technical issues that arose that may have led Apple to believe that this would never surface to the consumer.

Regardless, it did sound like a promising product and perhaps it does have a future if they can effectively work out any manufacturing difficulties. But since it has been removed from their website, obviously It won’t be in 2018 anymore.
 
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