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Sometimes you just gotta keep your people under control. How else are you supposed to brainwash them if they can see the rest of the world.

No, it's better to just flood everyone with prejudice, while at the same time leave alone the minority correct viewpoints. 99.9% of people won't be wise enough or has enough time to comprehend the flooded information and absorb the correct ones. That's how we are treated here in the US -- a cleverer way of brainwashing.
 
Uhhh, did you accidentally think this was a post on The Interview being banned in North Korea?


Since you obviously didn't read the update I'll help you out:

The Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post has linked the store closures to the release of controversial independent movie Ten Years, which won best picture prize at this month's Hong Kong Film Awards, despite being banned in China. News of the store closures broke shortly before the movie became available on iTunes in Hong Kong. The dystopian film imagines Hong Kong in 2025 with language police, mini Red Guards, radical protest and social alienation rife.
 
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How can China be a member of the WTO and have favored nation trading status with us when they don't follow fair trade practices and pull stunts like this?
Where's the retaliation from Obama The Spineless, or to be fair, any of our gutless leaders?

It's all about the Benjamins. In this case the RenMinBi's.
 
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Confusedus say: Lie down with dog, get up with dictator.

Maybe Apple should start "sharing" a Tiananmen Square day.
With red shirts showing tanks driving over students.
Magical Karma.
 
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I think we will see a steady erosion of liberty as the "free" world increasingly mimics the Chinese government's system of enterprise and controls.
Not a single day passes by where I don't spot multiple instances of anti-democratic behavior from several governments considered to be part of the "civilized Western hemisphere" or however you want to call it.

If you think any country in this world is TRULY democratic anymore or has ever been you're lying to yourself.

Problem is, it all begins with the voter and there's a lot of retards all around the world.

At this point I think most people don't even realize what an actual democracy is and what limitations governments and which duties they should be subject to.
I see so many people around me being nodding sheeple it's legitimately scaring me, but I do have higher hopes in the younger generation.
As much as there's the ever constant moaning about "this generation [being] the worst" (a timeless classic) I really believe that this world needs a little more input from what tends to be a more idealistic kind of people and one that is more tech savvy, because IT isn't something that's a commodity anymore, it truly is among the most shaping parts of our all lives and the more technologically uneducated politicians there are, the worse we're all off.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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Odd move by the government of the PRC. I can imagine that it will become a source of dissatisfaction about the government, so like most authoritarian moves it will backfire.
 
Odd move by the government of the PRC. I can imagine that it will become a source of dissatisfaction about the government, so like most authoritarian moves it will backfire.

I think they do seem rather worried at the moment.
 
Odd move by the government of the PRC. I can imagine that it will become a source of dissatisfaction about the government, so like most authoritarian moves it will backfire.

Absolutely. In the longterm, i cant see them winning the internet censorship war, and the fact that they tried to control it in the first place will fuel more dissent than they sought to avoid.
 
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2015#.VxmuL2PO7FI

America is not bad at all. There's virtually no censorship here. China is a Big Brother hellhole.

The US isn't nearly as bad as China but every time there's a national uproar over a female nipple being shown on tv, every time we hear about a movie that has to keep cutting and cutting to get a marketable rating and constantly hearing interruptions in the audio or outright beeps because of "naughty" words we are reminded that censorship is alive and well in the USA. Not to mention the state government in Utah trying to ban all pornography and Texas authorities trying to scrub truth from history books our children will be taught from.
 
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If anyone thinks state control of your smartphone is a good idea read 1984 by George Orwell and see how closely it resembles modern day China.
[doublepost=1461366893][/doublepost]The reason the Chinese government want to push their home brands is because you can guarantee they won't say no when asked to build a backdoor into their phones for state sponsored snooping.
 
No, it's better to just flood everyone with prejudice, while at the same time leave alone the minority correct viewpoints. 99.9% of people won't be wise enough or has enough time to comprehend the flooded information and absorb the correct ones. That's how we are treated here in the US -- a cleverer way of brainwashing.

As much as I hate the term "brainwashing", what we do here in the US is more like a willing, self selected version of it. Let everyone flock to what they believe in, reinforce it in an echo chamber, then send them out to argue amongst each other over the stupidest crap imaginable in the dumbest way possible.

"Shut up, Commie. Healthcare is an agenda."

"No you, Fascist. You support the oligarchy."
 
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Typical Communist China's ostrich policy.

Are they also going to release the movie around the world?
No. They want to spread their ideology throughout the world, through their currently still strong economic power.
(Pure speculation)
 
Just slowly move manufacturing to other countries every time the Chinese government cries about stuff like this. They will have no other choice but to accept it then.
If (and that is a huge if) we had the collective determination to follow that through, we might just be able to break the dominant economic stranglehold China currently has.

The MR article perfectly illustrates censorship and protectionism all wrapped up into one. The economic clout China has today should be downright frightening to the rest of us.

As China currently is, by an overwhelming margin, the 'worlds manufacturer', all of us by almost exclusively buying their lower-priced products over domestic goods, have collectively let it get to this point where because of the almost complete disappearance of a large portion of our own domestic manufacturing sector, the Chinese government can act with impunity to censor whatever they don't like, as well as favor their own companies not just merely with tariffs, but with total exclusion of foreign corporations if they so decide.

True, most autonomous countries can do this, but they then have to live with the economic realities of those actions whereas the Chinese have such a dominant position that they can blissfully ignore all of our protests. Other than a severe world-wide recession, only a lack of raw materials could stop in its tracks, the thundering freight train that is the Chinese economy.

All of this is great for them, but bad news for the rest of us.
 
If (and that is a huge if) we had the collective determination to follow that through, we might just be able to break the dominant economic stranglehold China currently has.

The MR article perfectly illustrates censorship and protectionism all wrapped up into one. The economic clout China has today should be downright frightening to the rest of us.

As China currently is, by an overwhelming margin, the 'worlds manufacturer', all of us by almost exclusively buying their lower-priced products over domestic goods, have collectively let it get to this point where because of the almost complete disappearance of a large portion of our own domestic manufacturing sector, the Chinese government can act with impunity to censor whatever they don't like, as well as favor their own companies not just merely with tariffs, but with total exclusion of foreign corporations if they so decide.

True, most autonomous countries can do this, but they then have to live with the economic realities of those actions whereas the Chinese have such a dominant position that they can blissfully ignore all of our protests. Other than a severe world-wide recession, only a lack of raw materials could stop in its tracks, the thundering freight train that is the Chinese economy.

All of this is great for them, but bad news for the rest of us.
However, no matter when and no matter where, political correctness is among the first priority, and ideology fight agains western style will never end, until either of them totally distinct.
China currently do have a strong economy but their cost on correcting "corrupted and notorious" western culture among citizens is drastically increasing these days. Economy slowness is just a reflection showing how pathetic communist party is to wield the growth in modern market-oriented economy.
My thought is: as long as either their communist ideology collapse or tough enough to suppress every single citizen, economy growth or reform will just be an illusion. And, maybe, it is equally bad for all of us.
 
Now china is so far from communism it's government is controlling it's populous just like other capitalist countries. If you think the US government doesn't have similar blocks on foreign business exactly like this you are misguided.

The Chinese gov might control internet in a different, direct way the rest think is wrong but similar control is exacted over all of us in many other ways. Guys, socialism hasn't existed for a long time and is not something you should even be worried about, the system doesn't work. Capitalism doesn't either it just hides it's issues in inflation and increased deficit so it can work long term.

The stores closing would happen the other way round just with a different set of laws or rules that made it impossible. China is no more or less moral than anyone else.
 
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Now china is so far from communism it's government is controlling it's populous just like other capitalist countries. If you think the US government doesn't have similar blocks on foreign business exactly like this you are misguided.

The Chinese gov might control internet in a different, direct way the rest think is wrong but similar control is exacted over all of us in many other ways. Guys, socialism hasn't existed for a long time and is not something you should even be worried about, the system doesn't work. Capitalism doesn't either it just hides it's issues in inflation and increased deficit so it can work long term.

The stores closing would happen the other way round just with a different set of laws or rules that made it impossible. China is no more or less moral than anyone else.

Totally agree. The US and China just have different fake "for the people" political systems. They're both run by the same aristocrats that hoard money and power while throwing out tidbits to the masses.
 
... and why do we trade with these people?
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Totally agree. The US and China just have different fake "for the people" political systems. They're both run by the same aristocrats that hoard money and power while throwing out tidbits to the masses.

If you remember the an old Fox sci-fi showed called "Firefly" the future government is called "The Alliance" that's a merger of American and Chinese governments after leaving Earth.
 
Nothing to see here. It's just another centralized government exercising censorship over offensive content.
 
Nothing to see here. It's just another centralized government exercising censorship over offensive content.

All of the books and music are available at Amazon.cn so it's not censorship...it's an economic weapon against Apple.
 
All of the books and music are available at Amazon.cn so it's not censorship...it's an economic weapon against Apple.

Apple may have not played nice perhaps.
But, rest assured; Chinese people will revolt if iPhones are removed from their hands.

I'm pretty certain that Chinese government won't take away Apple products, as almost 100% of government officials' children use iphones.
 
They simply want Apple to partner with a local company for iTunes and iBooks sales so they can pull more off the top. Apple will cut a deal, probably with Alibaba, and be back online. The Chinese market is too large to not compromise.
 
They simply want Apple to partner with a local company for iTunes and iBooks sales so they can pull more off the top. Apple will cut a deal, probably with Alibaba, and be back online. The Chinese market is too large to not compromise.

It's pretty much BS how the Chinese government gets to block US internet products and have their own versions of said products; but in the case of google, it comes at the expense of their citizens' freedom, because the substitute product, Baidu, is a sad joke.
 
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