Report Revives Rumors of 5G iPhone With Under-Display Ultrasonic Fingerprint Scanner

[MacRumors]

Economic Daily News on Monday revived rumors that this year's 5G iPhone will feature under-display fingerprint scanner technology.

According to a machine translation of EDN's Chinese-language report, touch panel maker GIS, OLED display maker BOE and Qualcomm are collaborating on the ultrasonic technology, which could feature in at least one of the high-end models in Apple's 5G iPhone lineup.

EDN was a source of rumors last year that one of Apple's 2020 iPhones could have an under-display ultrasonic fingerprint scanner. Those reports claimed that Apple would use Qualcomm's ultrasonic fingerprint sensor technology in at least one iPhone model set to be released in 2020, although the timeframe could be pushed back to 2021.

Those rumors also lined up with reports last year from analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Barclays analysts, Bloomberg, and others who said they expect Apple to release an iPhone with both Face ID and under-display fingerprint authentication in 2020 or 2021.

However, rumors and leaks this year have not indicated that the technology will feature in 2020, and well-connected Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman recently said he does not expect under-screen fingerprint technology in an iPhone this year, suggesting Apple may have decided to push back the technology to 2021. The only other recent mention of fingerprint technology was by an anonymous Twitter account with a fairly accurate track record that said Apple is developing a new iPad Air with under-the-screen Touch ID.

There are currently two types of under-display fingerprint sensors, including optical and ultrasonic. Optical variants rely on light from a smartphone's display to create a 2D image of a fingerprint, while ultrasonic variants make use of high-frequency sound to generate a 3D image of a fingerprint.

Qualcomm already supplies ultrasonic fingerprint sensors for some Samsung smartphones, but future iPhones could potentially use an even more advanced version of the technology that works across the entire display.

Apple is expected to offer four iPhones in three different sizes this year: A 5.4-inch ??iPhone??, a 6.7-inch ??iPhone??, and two 6.1-inch iPhones. One 6.1-inch model and the 6.7-inch model will be higher-end iPhones, while the other 6.1-inch ??iPhone?? and the 5.4-inch ??iPhone?? will be lower-end models and successors to the ?iPhone 11?. Apple is expected to launch the new models in the fall.

Article Link: Report Revives Rumors of 5G iPhone With Under-Display Ultrasonic Fingerprint Scanner

 

[ColdShadow]

oh yes,time to retire annoying Face ID.

 

[Porco]

If / when they can do this it would certainly remove one of the (sadly numerous) objections I have to buying a new iPhone. Ideally we will have TouchID and FaceID (hopefully both under-display) and users can choose to use whichever they prefer (or require both for even more accurate authentication).

 

[Techwatcher]

I prefer Face ID but if this can work even with wet fingers then that would be amazing.

 

[jsmith189]

Would love if they ADDED this, but not at the expense of Face ID.

 

[PickUrPoison]

The two dual-cam models, the 5.4 and 6.1”, I would describe as mid tier. The SE is the lower-end.

 

[Skeith]

In an era of face masks and coronas, this is needed. Dearly.

 

[ConfluxNZ]

In addition to offering this as the sole authentication method on lower end iPhones, will it also become a complementary authentication to FaceID on higher end devices? I hope so.

 

[calstanford]

Yay! Something every Chinese Android phone has had for the last two years. About time!
Will be great for those days you're wearing a mask and can't face unlock

 

[EmotionalSnow]

In addition to offering this as the sole authentication method on lower end iPhones, will it also become a complementary authentication to FaceID on higher end devices? I hope so.

Who says that this tech will appear on lower end phones? This tech is new and certainly not cheap ...

 

[Picard J.L.]

Would love if they ADDED this, but not at the expense of Face ID.

They are not equally secure. It makes no sense to have two when one is more secure than the other. That's like locking the door and leaving a window open.

 

[itsmilo]

I personally haven’t missed TouchID on my iPhone until we were forced to wear face masks outside now. TouchId didn’t recognize my finger many times, so often that I decided to use a short Passcode back in the day because I was tired typing in a long Passcode all the time. Probably cuz I get sweaty fingers easily

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

They are not equally secure. It makes no sense to have two when one is more secure than the other. That's like locking the door and leaving a window open.

Disagree totally. You're assuming one is more secure than another without any facts since none have been published about this new technology yet. And you are missing an essential point like most here.
Yes, there was a feature in the car of having the ability to just touch my iPhone to unlock it for anyone to use EXCEPT ME LOOKING AT IT as that would be a crime.

 

[Neeldenn]

They are not equally secure. It makes no sense to have two when one is more secure than the other. That's like locking the door and leaving a window open.

I agree with your argument, but I still hope that they would offer both authentification methods in the new iPhones. FaceID is really convenient in most of the situations, but especially during summer it’s really annoying, when I’m wearing sunglasses. You either have to take of your glasses every single time or have to enter your passcode - which is also not very secure, if you’re using a 4 digit passcode. Same goes for every skiing vacation, so I would just hope to get the best of both worlds.

 

[Agit21]

Only problem I have with faceid is that I have to pick up my iPhone and directly look at it when I only have to authenticate myself for e.g. online baking on my laptop, ipad or pc.

 

[mazz0]

future iPhones could potentially use an even more advanced version of the technology that works across the entire display.

Is this pure speculation or is there an indication that such technology is on its way? I think it'd be great if so. Touch ID where you have to look where you place your finger wouldn't add anything (convenience wise) to FaceID (though it would add additional security), but touch anywhere would bring back the unlock-before-you-see-it usability of TouchID of old.

Would love if they ADDED this, but not at the expense of Face ID.

I would happily lose both FaceID and the front facing camera to get rid of the notch (particularly if it was full-display TouchID), but obviously that's never going to happen - Apple do not like giving us the choice to buy things without cameras (looks at iPad).

They are not equally secure. It makes no sense to have two when one is more secure than the other. That's like locking the door and leaving a window open.

Or it's like having a drawbridge and a portcullis? Or an army and a secret service? Or basically any other combination of things that work towards the same goal in different ways?

 

[GadgetBen]

This won’t retire Face ID!

This will run alongside Face ID for situations where Face ID is not possible (you are wearing a bike helmet or face mask for example) and to provide double security for large transactions or significant account changes.

A two-factor authentication built into the next iOS.

 

[The Game 161]

If they bring it back it will be with Face ID that’s for sure...maybe 2021 makes sense given rumours of no notch on the bigger model.

 

[Picard J.L.]

Is this pure speculation or is there an indication that such technology is on its way? I think it'd be great if so. Touch ID where you have to look where you place your finger wouldn't add anything (convenience wise) to FaceID (though it would add additional security), but tough anywhere would bring back the unlock-before-you-see-it usability of TouchID of old.



I would happily lose both FaceID and the front facing camera to get rid of the notch (particularly if it was full-display TouchID), but obviously that's never going to happen - Apple do not like giving us the choice to buy things without cameras (looks at iPad).


Or it's like having a drawbridge and a portcullis? Or an army and a secret service? Or basically any other combination of things that work towards the same goal in different ways?

Seems like very complicated scheme for no actual benefit.
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Disagree totally. You're assuming one is more secure than another without any facts since none have been published about this new technology yet. And you are missing an essential point like most here.
Yes, there was a feature in the car of having the ability to just touch my iPhone to unlock it for anyone to use EXCEPT ME LOOKING AT IT as that would be a crime.

What do you mean no facts? Are you from another universe?

 

[Glideslope]

oh yes,time to retire annoying Face ID.

It's going to happen. I've been saying this for the past 2yrs. The Under Screen Ultrasonic Technology has been maturing rapidly (don't confuse this with the current Touch ID on current iPhones.) The security is there, it removes a lot of expensive from the phone, works with facemarks😉

The Lidar sensor goes on the back of the device. People won't have to subject their eyers to even more IR than already occurs naturally.

It will be interesting if the first implementation will be in conjunction with Farce ID remaining. I'm fairly certain it will. Then in another cycle Farce ID is history. Looking forward to the resurrection of myself and all the others in here that have endured years of targeted anger for being Farce ID haters.

 

[Picard J.L.]

It's going to happen. I've been saying this for the past 2yrs. The Under Screen Ultrasonic Technology has been maturing rapidly9don't confuse this with the current Touch ID on current iPhones.) The security is there, it removes a lot of expensive from the phone, works with facemarks😉

The Lidar sensor goes on the back of the device. People won't have to subject their eyers to even more IR than already occurs naturally.

It will be interesting if the first implementation will be in conjunction with Farce ID remaining. I'm fairly certain it will. Then in another cycle Farce ID is history. Looking forward to the resurrection of myself and all the others in here that have endured years of targeted anger for being Farce ID haters.

/Ads tinfoil to amazon shopping basket.

 

[kb923689]

But we were told FaceID is the way to go and TouchID is insecure.

 

[mazz0]

Seems like very complicated scheme for no actual benefit.

I agree, but no modern government would dare disband either the military or espionage service so I just have to live with it!

 

[EmotionalSnow]

Is this pure speculation or is there an indication that such technology is on its way? I think it'd be great if so. Touch ID where you have to look where you place your finger wouldn't add anything (convenience wise) to FaceID (though it would add additional security), but tough anywhere would bring back the unlock-before-you-see-it usability of TouchID of old.



I would happily lose both FaceID and the front facing camera to get rid of the notch (particularly if it was full-display TouchID), but obviously that's never going to happen - Apple do not like giving us the choice to buy things without cameras (looks at iPad).


Or it's like having a drawbridge and a portcullis? Or an army and a secret service? Or basically any other combination of things that work towards the same goal in different ways?

Wellt this will obviously never happen because most consumers want a phone with a selfie camera ... also there are not enough of you for letting the customer choose to be financially profitable.

It's going to happen. I've been saying this for the past 2yrs. The Under Screen Ultrasonic Technology has been maturing rapidly (don't confuse this with the current Touch ID on current iPhones.) The security is there, it removes a lot of expensive from the phone, works with facemarks😉

The Lidar sensor goes on the back of the device. People won't have to subject their eyers to even more IR than already occurs naturally.

It will be interesting if the first implementation will be in conjunction with Farce ID remaining. I'm fairly certain it will. Then in another cycle Farce ID is history. Looking forward to the resurrection of myself and all the others in here that have endured years of targeted anger for being Farce ID haters.

Just because you hate it, doesn't mean others do too. I love it. You will have to live with it, or buy another phone.

 

[mazz0]

But we were told FaceID is the way to go and TouchID is insecure.

We were never told TouchID is insecure.