Spotify, Netflix, kindle, Fortnite are all apps I want side loaded.
People crying piracy, Tim isn't going to rock you to sleep.
People crying piracy, Tim isn't going to rock you to sleep.
This is either disingenuous or misinformed. Apple picks and chooses what can be purchased outside of the app store. It falls under their made-up classification of a "reader app."Nobody has to buy from Apple. That's how Netflix/Spotify/Kindle have apps that are downloaded from the App Store but don't involve any kind of purchase inside the app. The customer pays for the subscriptions/products on the internet.
Nope. I actually have YouTube premium. I want to enhance my experience. SponsorBlock is completely legitimate and legal.So you want to pirate Youtube
So how much is EU VAT?
You ignored the rest of my post, whereby you can't even inform the customer about that. It relies on customers know that this is an option on their own. Going back to your original point. This model does not exist in retail. It doesn't even exist elsewhere in Apple's own world. I can install things on my Mac, and subscribe to whatever I want on my Safari browser. Apple doesn't take a cut of any of that. The model they have built here restricts choice and information. It's incredibly anti-competitive. I can only imagine the reaction if Microsoft used their Windows market share to enable this kind of model.Nobody has to buy from Apple. That's how Netflix/Spotify/Kindle have apps that are downloaded from the App Store but don't involve any kind of purchase inside the app. The customer pays for the subscriptions/products on the internet.
So stealing from content creators is legitimate and legal.SponsorBlock is completely legitimate and legal.
How that's stealing? I'm paying for YouTube. Do you even know what SponsorBlock is? It does not affect creators at all. It just automatically skips segments of videos (no ads) just like you can fast forward manually at any time.So stealing from content creators is legitimate and legal.
You can't and yet you're doing exactly that when you're (wrongly) implying I want to pirate YouTube when you know nothing about me and when I already said I want to sideload for legitimate and non-piracy reasons.I can't project, I'm strongly opposed to sideloading.
Easy, most of the time sponsored blocks are used in videos without monetization. Usually it's some kind of referral. If you are auto-skipping the ad, it's a guaranteed "no click" on something that could interest you now or at some point in the future.How that's stealing? I'm paying for YouTube.
I can appreciate why you have a hard time seeing the issue here, @hacky, since you are in fact paying for YouTube.How that's stealing? I'm paying for YouTube. Do you even know what SponsorBlock is? It does not affect creators at all. It just automatically skips segments of videos (no ads) just like you can fast forward manually at any time.
You can't and yet you're doing exactly that when you implying I want to pirate YouTube when you know nothing about me and when I already said I want to sideload for legitimate and non-piracy reasons.
Maybe don't argue about something you know nothing about?
Nope. It's used in the monetized videos as well.Easy, most of the time sponsored blocks are used in videos without monetization. Usually it's some kind of referral. If you are auto-skipping the ad, it's a guaranteed "no click" on something that could interest you now or at some point in the future.
Cloud services that offer non-reader apps can be accessed and paid for through the internet on iOS. Example: Microsoft made a public show of complaining about Apple's commission and Apple saying that they needed to submit each game individually in the App Store...but then quickly released their cloud gaming service via the browser and never had to pay Apple a dime.This is either disingenuous or misinformed. Apple picks and chooses what can be purchased outside of the app store. It falls under their made-up classification of a "reader app."
Very wrong.I can appreciate why you have a hard time seeing the issue here, @hacky, since you are in fact paying for YouTube.
The issue is, it's not YouTube you're stealing from.
Sponsors of shows / channels / videos are not paying YouTube for ad placement. They're paying the Content Creator for a direct placement within the show. Tools like SponsorBlock take eyeballs off those segments, thereby lessening their value to the Sponsor, which decreases the value of the Sponsorship, which in turn takes money out of the Content Creator's pocket.
The sad thing about this, not only are you stealing from the Sponsor and the Creator who's Content you enjoy consuming... ultimately you're hurting yourself. If Content Creators can't get sponsorships because everyone starts using Sponsor Block, they may be less inclined to continue creating content for you to consume altogether.
Costco hosted merchandise in this analogy is the apps on the AppStore, not iPhones.For heaven's sake, the iPhone I bought is my property, not Costco's and not Apple's. I admire your ability to make up the most inaccurate analogy possible.
You justified piracy in your head enough to think you are not hurting anyone.You can't and yet you're doing exactly that when you're (wrongly) implying I want to pirate YouTube when you know nothing about me
Don't pretend you haven't seen "most of the time".Nope. It's used in the monetized videos as well.
Don't pretend you don't know what "referral link in description" is.And no, creators don't see which exact parts of the video I watched. It does not affect their revenue at all.
Stop repeating this please, let people decide themselves who knows and who doesn't.Again, don't talk about something, you know nothing about - your argumentation is just plain useless then.
That analogy makes absolutely no sense in this context because brands are already allowed to be sold in more than one store. Nobody is trying to force the app store to let them sell on it as your Costco analogy tries to imply.
How about this--
Try renting a house and then having the landlord tell you that it can only be furnished with things he has curated for you to purchase because he gets 30% of every sale from the product manufacturers.
All your "use cases" for sideloading so far is to take someone's revenues. Any real use cases?
Your projection is really breathtaking.You justified piracy in your head enough to think you are not hurting anyone.
All your "use cases" for sideloading so far is to take someone's revenues. Any real use cases?
This is incorrect: The landlord stated the rules before buying, so you rent from someone else if you don't like that landlord's rules.
There's this funny thing in social norms called mutual respect. Someone provided you with entertainment or useful info, why'd you take his revenue in return.There is no contractual obligation for a viewer to watch a YouTube video in its entirety. Even if that action would cost a content creator "revenue", there is no obligation for a viewer to provide that revenue to the content creator.
That's how standard retail works. Customers are expected to educate themselves on the options. The idea that iPhone users don't understand that they have access to information outside of the App Store doesn't really make any sense. It's not the 1990s. Consumers know that the internet and web sites exist and that commercial products/services can be purchased online.You ignored the rest of my post, whereby you can't even inform the customer about that. It relies on customers know that this is an option on their own.
Will be interesting to see Apple’s actual plan and what regulators think of it. Based on what's being reported here, this would seem to flout the spirit of the law. The only material difference from the status quo would appear to be the server the app is hosted on. Does anyone really think the DMA was passed just so that devs could host apps off of Apple's servers?
I understand. So out of mutual respect you buy from every affiliate link that is in or below a youtube video. That makes sense.There's this funny thing in social norms called mutual respect. Someone provided you with entertainment or useful info, why'd you take his revenue in return.