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Report Suggests iPhone 14 Plus More Popular Than iPhone 13 Mini

Yeah, and the Captain is more popular than Tennille, Simon is more popular than Garfunkel, and well that Oates guy?

People think he's a scrub.

My SO has an 11 and is looking to upgrade and almost fell in to the "plus trap". She thought it was the Pro Max and I had to explain it to her.

When I did, she was more than willing to pony up the extra dough, and she's a tight fisted luddite.
 
Four premium aluminium tri-rear-camera iPhone sizes: 5" mini, 5.6" regular, 6.2" Plus, 6.8" Max

Read: no pro model; too heavy

Two SE sizes with home button design and single rear camera: 4" and 5"

Rest of iPhones go away.

That is all.
 
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This is like comparing an SUV buyer to a Sports Car buyer

Someone shopping a 14 Plus is a different buyer than one interested in the 13 Mini
 
Mac Fly (film) said:
Four premium aluminium tri-rear-camera iPhone sizes: 5" mini, 5.6" regular, 6.2" Plus, 6.8" Max

Read: no pro model; too heavy

Two SE sizes with home button design and single rear camera: 4" and 5"

Rest of iPhones go away.

That is all.
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Yea I just want an SE+ with full screen and Touch on Power.
 
The mini is an absolutely great phone. The 12 mini was a first pass, crappy battery life. The 13 mini was a lot better and remains an outstanding choice for people who want a small phone.

I like the Plus-sized phones, too. Lots of people want the bigger screen - easier to read text esp. for aging boomers, and viewing photos is (IMHO) much nicer on the larger Plus (or Pro Max) screen than on the regular screen size. For people who want a large screen phone but don't want to (or can't) shell out the big bucks for the Pro Max, the Plus models are great. Only $100 more than the regular size phone, you get the nice big screen and hella great battery life.

Bottom line, there is a market for both. Unfortunately, the market is small as a share of the total. But the total is a ridiculously large number, so even a 5% share translates to a huge number of units.

I'd like to see every subsequent iPhone model come in a mini size and a Plus size. Why just one or the other? The Plus size is not cannibalizing sales from the mini, it's cannibalizing sales of the regular size Phone, ditto for the mini. Why not both?
 
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darkus said:
Because as everyone knows, what’s popular is what’s right. [eyeroll]

Hopefully Apple soon gets another product leader with clarity to bring what’s actually right to the market again.
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Capitalism is foremost about profit, not virtue.

That said, neither the small nor XL form factors appear to be integral to the non-Pro annual iPhone refresh business strategy. So, it may be time to go back to a single size for the yearly base model.

The vast majority of customers who want the large screen can, as has been demonstrated, be coaxed into paying for the high end product. This is good news for Apple and its bottom line. That’s the easy part.

For those who want a smaller phone, however, does the privilege of membership into Apple’s walled ecosystem similarly convince enough of them to tolerate a bulkier device instead? It‘s hard to say at this point. Assuming for a moment that it does not, maybe, just maybe, Apple can figure out how to capture this audience with a small, but relatively high priced - and thus high margin - device that yields desired profitability targets. We shall soon see.
 
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jaehaerys48 said:
Yeah, the Pro models out earning the standard ones means that we are probably going to see less attention put into them. Even looking at the discourse around the 14 it’s often easy to forget that the non-pro model exists.
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There's no discourse if there is no innovation. Dynamic Island on 15 standard could change a lof of things.
 
No surprise. Most people don't want smaller phones, regardless of the specs. I remember when I used to resell iPhones and the iPhone 6/6 Plus held value longer and had higher demand and value than the iPhone SE despite them having worse specs and being older. The small phone crowd is a minority that I've honestly only seen on Macrumors. I haven't even seen an iPhone mini in real life outside of a store display.
 
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I wouldn't go as far as to call it fake news.
But some adjustment or in-depth analyses could be in place.

Most people spending serious money would go for 14 instead of 13 thinking 14 is better due to the higher number.

And if there was a 14 mini I would bet that would be different numbers.
The lack of a mini doesn't mean it wouldn't sell better than a standard iPhone.
 
wallinbl said:
You'd be content if they discontinued your preferred model? Probably not.

Many of us don't want giant phones. Apparently just not enough to be worth it for Apple to accommodate.
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That’s where I’m at. I don’t want a giant phone. I’ve used a Pro Max (setting it up for a family member) and the only thing I could think was how much I’d hate carrying that thing around. 12/13 Mini size is PERFECT for me. The regular size…I tolerate. Plus/Max…I won’t even consider it.

I’m not arrogant enough to believe my single purchase impacts their decision. It doesn’t. They almost certainly couldn’t care less about my one purchase. That being said though…Plus/Max is an INSTANT “nope” to me. A Mini would be an instant purchase. I didn’t need a 14 but I would have bought a Mini if they made one.. Not having a 14 Mini was a dealbreaker.
 
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jaehaerys48 said:
Yeah, the Pro models out earning the standard ones means that we are probably going to see less attention put into them.
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Out-earning them, yes.

But, on global sales rate, the 14 overtook the 14 Pro Max to claim the #1 spot in December.


Of course, there‘s no word on whether that’s continued into 2023. And, to your point, even if it has, clearly, given they are sitting in the second and third spots in the list, the Pro model duo outpaces the non-Pro model duo in unit sales. And, as such, they no doubt generate the most profit as well.
 
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CEmajr said:
[...] I haven't even seen an iPhone mini in real life outside of a store display.
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Next time, please start with the disqualifying statement at the beginning of your post to save everyone some time. Thank you.
 
MacWiz_007 said:
I certainly wouldn't cry about it incessantly on MacRumors! Also, while I might be bummed, it's just a phone. I'd move on instantly.
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To be fair though, the implication here isn’t “you don’t get your model this year” it’s that “you will never get the model you want” and the reason is that it will be less insanely profitable than the other insanely profitable phones they make. That is frustrating and worth complaining about (so that maybe Apple will hear and make the phone we want!)

(That said, as a mini owner/lover, I suspect battery is a big issue too…I think not supporting the mini in the future will free Apple up to have a higher power envelope for their other phones in the future).
 
Remember the false “report” about this put out by Bloomberg late last year around earnings time? Expect something else negative from them by next month. This is what they do. They should get called out for the trash click bait they put out.
 
Can you guess this country? Apple in full force.

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Well then the only reasonable response (by MR standards) is for Apple to drop the 14 plus and release a 7.1” iPhone 15 Ultra since big and premium are what sells the best.
 
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I think they should just sell an updated SE that is closer to the iPhone 15, then iPhone15 Pro/Max models.
TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 said:
Can you guess this country? Apple in full force.

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India license plates. By the was the Apple/Foxcomm factory effort is costing more and they have to contend with work laws.

Apple's Latest Moves To Abandon China Require A Big Lift: Changing India's Rules - Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL)

www.benzinga.com www.benzinga.com

www.bloomberg.com

Apple Seeks India Labor Reform to Diversify Beyond China

Apple Inc. is seeking changes in India’s labor laws as part of its effort to expand local production, and regional governments are yielding to its request as they are eager to snatch iPhone assembly from China.
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  • The suggested changes include allowing factories to operate two shifts of 12 hours each instead of the previous three 8-hour shifts.
  • Foxconn, Pegatron and Wistron together employ nearly 60,000 workers in India. A significant part of that number are women, aged between 19 and 24. It was originally thought they would have 100,000 workers.
 
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