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Report Suggests iPhone 14 Plus More Popular Than iPhone 13 Mini
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I’ve done this but it’s definitely not as fast as using a computer
According to articles like this, Apple should stop selling the Pro because the regular one sells more.
You can bet Tim Apple don’t like the mini because it has less profit margins!
You can bet Tim Apple don’t like the mini because it has less profit margins!
Instead you're complaining about people complaining about it, which is much more understandable
In China you use your phone for work, paying for everything, apartment contracts, getting a doctor’s appointment, ordering food, getting a rental car or taking public transit, paying taxes, online classes. Need the battery to last
This is all 100% spot-on. If Apple had known how the 12 mini would perform, they would've never made it in the first place. Apple clearly doesn't know what the market actually wants, or else they wouldn't make models that sell too poorly to sustain.
At the end of the day, they could learn a lot more about what kind of iPhone to make by spending an hour on MR Forums than they get spending, probably billions, on "market analyst" firms who make up numbers while claiming to know what the market demands will be.
Really, if you're in a "poorer" country, so you're not in the laptop class (or, as myself in the desktop-ipad-iphone-watch class) then you probably can't afford any of the iPhones.
I could have afforded a mini, but it's still €800 (including 20% VAT, equals $861 at the moment) in middle Europe, which it isn't worth in my opinion.
I'd never get something like a plus (too big, screen still too small for anything but phone-stuff) or a pro (nice tech specs, but too heavy, unwieldy and ugly camera hump), and even a regular iphone feels too big for my pockets or one-handed use. So an SE it is.
Judging by this thread if they did this they'd cut the big models, go back to the OG iPhone form factor, and then get murdered by Samsung and Google.
I can afford the Pro Max, but I bought the Plus because I wanted the lighter weight and better battery life, and because I had no need for the extra features in the Pro Max.
I switched from an SE2, though, so I see the appeal of the smaller size. In a perfect world, they would offer both.
The iPhone plus being more popular than the mini seems to be corroborated by the developer of the Apollo Reddit app.
Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social)
Per that “14 Plus more popular than 13 mini article” it's kinda interesting looking at the stats for my apps because they kinda mirror it, but not for technical folk. in Apollo the breakdown is the opposite, 7:1 more users of the 13 mini than the 14 Plus. (1/3)
mastodon.social
There are 7 times the number of 13 mini users compared to the 14 plus phone for his Apollo app, but the catch is that his app tends to be more popular amongst the tech savvy crowd, who tend to own multiple devices, and can thus get away with owning a smaller screen.
In contrast, there is (slightly) more 14 plus users for his other app, which is geared towards more casual users, who tend to have only one computing device (their phone), and thus prefer a larger screen.
It’s a similar analogy to the user base for macrumours (a poll on the iPad forum suggests that the majority of users here own an iPad Pro model, which we know is not representative of the overall iPad user base).
I would caution against taking what this forum says at face value. It has had a pretty poor track record of predicting what users want, or what Apple ought to do.
Unpopular phone sells more units that even less popular phone that was discontinued. 
Agreed, but what that data supports is the idea that the Mini is in fact a ‘Pro’ product, and so would likely see more success if designed and marketed as such.The iPhone plus being more popular than the mini seems to be corroborated by the developer of the Apollo Reddit app.
Christian Selig (@christianselig@mastodon.social)
Per that “14 Plus more popular than 13 mini article” it's kinda interesting looking at the stats for my apps because they kinda mirror it, but not for technical folk. in Apollo the breakdown is the opposite, 7:1 more users of the 13 mini than the 14 Plus. (1/3)
There are 7 times the number of 13 mini users compared to the 14 plus phone for his Apollo app, but the catch is that his app tends to be more popular amongst the tech savvy crowd, who tend to own multiple devices, and can thus get away with owning a smaller screen.
In contrast, there is (slightly) more 14 plus users for his other app, which is geared towards more casual users, who tend to have only one computing device (their phone), and thus prefer a larger screen.
It’s a similar analogy to the user base for macrumours (a poll on the iPad forum suggests that the majority of users here own an iPad Pro model, which we know is not representative of the overall iPad user base).
I would caution against taking what this forum says at face value. It has had a pretty poor track record of predicting what users want, or what Apple ought to do.
It just makes more sense that the pro or prosumer lineup should consist of multiple niche products with higher margins, whereas the pure consumer market would be more of a one size fits all. Apple instead keeps trying to diversify the low end, and so they end up with multiple, lower margin products that have to all sell well to justify their existence. They’ve been knocking their heads against the wall for years now with that approach and have yet to make it work.
That’s because AT&T was practically giving them away for $5/month for 36 months up until recently.
So, the takeaway from this seems to be that people aren't interested in small iPhones (at least not for the price that something like the iPhone 11 or iPhone XR was available for in years past). People ARE interested in large iPhones, but not at a price that puts it within spitting distance of the Pro and Pro Max models (which, this year, entail significant upgrades).
Well the iPhone 14 plus is just larger for extra hundred then the iPhone 14, but then for another $100 with a smaller iPhone Pro the feature set trounces the iPhone 14 Plus. So it still is the least attractive iPhone of this year models.
Apple should just make 3 phones versus the way it is presently. Just give them all the same feature set and make the choice more simpler by size with the iPhone 15's. 5.8" -> 6.2" -> 6.7". Save them some money not making so many phone models, using more of the same parts. Then update the next iPhone SE to mimic a iPhone 13 or better.
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It's still a $200 difference to go from 14 Plus to 14 Pro Max assuming same storage capacity. I think it's a little harder for consumers to stomach spending that much for a phone and not simply spending $200 more for more features. If you're really just shopping to have a working phone, you'll spend a lot less than the 14 Plus' price point.
Sure, but customers could also benefit from the screen quality, and future titanium case versus the aluminum cast of the present arrangement. Also the battery capacity of a possible 5.8" iPhone 15 model versus the mini's 5.4" would make that more desirable along with what I mention in the first sentence. I don't necessarily think you need two 6.7" iPhones irregardless of the $200 savings with build /parts quality. This older 2 aluminum and 2 stainless steel models is just odd, and less marketable IMHO. Between the mini and the iPhone Plus they show Apple can't fix it in the future that easy.
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Maybe the sales of 14 Plus are good enough for Apple. Apple might still keep Plus in the lineup.
People with bad sight, most people over 50, cant really use a mini while also using the biggest font. My mom has like 6 lines of huge text on her normal 14pro, in a mini it would be like 3 lines and infinity scrolling
"People only need hammers - anyone that claims to need a Torx screwdriver is wrong" == your logic.
Definitely not true. Poorer countries have a middle class too, you know? And even the poor will often save up months of salary just to buy an iPhone - especially younger people in those countries.