Report: These 10 New AI Features Are Coming in iOS 18

[Ad47uk]

Along with rcs crap coming to iOS 18, I’ll be turning most of these off.

I don't have a iPhone, I use an Android phone, but even I don't use RCS, but then I prefer SMS, it does the job and I don't get a load of bloat on messages sent to me. I presume RCS can be disabled on an Iphone if that is what you want, can Imessage be disabled as well?

I don't use imessage on my Mac, for the simple reason it will only recieve message as far as i know from Macs or Iphones.

 

[Ad47uk]

I don't want to use AI rubbish, so I will keep my Mac on macOS 14, that is also whyt I am keep[ing my PC on Windows 10, not that it can officially run Windows 11

 

[johnnytravels]

It weakens the ecosystem. The more iPhone users there are, the probability of more resources being poured into the ecosystem by others increases.

This really sounds like someone would say who would vote for the president that promises to make iPhones mandatory for all US citizens “because it will strengthen the ecosystem” 😂😂

 

[scorpio vega]

Looks like "android" is living rent free in your head. How does it affect you if someone else uses android or talks to android users?

Android doesn’t live rent free in my head because I don’t use the subpar os anymore lol.

It doesn’t affect me at all. The few times I have to talk to an android user, that’s why I have sms which works just fine and dandy for me and millions of others.

This whole rcs thing is a way for android users deal with their inferiority complex (hence they are the only ones who care about having iMessage on android. Most day to day consumers don’t care or even know what rcs is).

I don’t think your friends would appreciate you telling them what to do with their iPhones. If some of them want to use it, it’s their choice. A good friend never imposes himself or herself on someone unless perhaps if it’s an emergency intervention. The use of RCS doesn’t fit that criteria in my opinion.

I’m the resident tech for my circle so thanks for your incorrect opinion.

 

[scorpio vega]

I don't have a iPhone, I use an Android phone, but even I don't use RCS, but then I prefer SMS, it does the job and I don't get a load of bloat on messages sent to me. I presume RCS can be disabled on an Iphone if that is what you want, can Imessage be disabled as well?

I don't use imessage on my Mac, for the simple reason it will only recieve message as far as i know from Macs or Iphones.

Finally a sensible android user lol. Well aside from using android haha but I digress 🤧

Yes you can turn iMessage off and just use traditional sms

 

[scorpio vega]

That is fine, the rest of us live in the real world where we know a lot of people and simply having group messaging improvement will make having RCS worth it.

And that’s good for you. And the other millions of us are fine without it.

The average consumer doesn’t know what rcs is and is fine with iMessage and sms as both have been working reliably.

If I have to deal with some with android, I (like millions of others) have at least one 3rd party messaging app.

Snapchat, telegram, WhatsApp, messenger, ig and Skype for me.

What’s even more funny is that iMessage nor rcs are the default for most people across the globe . WhatsApp/kakao talk are.

Your logic is hilariously contradicting. There is no downside to RCS, it's a long overdue upgrade to SMS/MMS that Apple dragged its feet on. If you are fine with SMS, logic dictates you are fine with RCS, the fact you claim otherwise is nonsensical.

There is nothing rcs will do for me that I can’t already do. I already have all those features with iMessage and if I unfortunately have to talk with someone with android I have sms and if I need to send a video I use one of the ten other messaging apps on my phone.

I don’t get why android users on MR or pro-rcs fans get so sensitive when I and others say we don’t care about rcs, don’t need it, and are turning it off.

 

[T0mmyR0t]

I’m in disbelief. They are behind in every possible way on software, they have a gazillion bugs, issues and glitches in every area of macOS (and although a bit less, in iOS) and they are still wasting time on emoji BS???
Are they out of their mind??

Wholeheartedly agree. I'm aghast, but not surprised. Apple continually disappoints these days. Time is up for Tim Cook and Craig Federighi.

 

[spazzcat]

And that’s good for you. And the other millions of us are fine without it.

The average consumer doesn’t know what rcs is and is fine with iMessage and sms as both have been working reliably.

If I have to deal with some with android, I (like millions of others) have at least one 3rd party messaging app.

Snapchat, telegram, WhatsApp, messenger, ig and Skype for me.

What’s even more funny is that iMessage nor rcs are the default for most people across the globe . WhatsApp/kakao talk are.

There is nothing rcs will do for me that I can’t already do. I already have all those features with iMessage and if I unfortunately have to talk with someone with android I have sms and if I need to send a video I use one of the ten other messaging apps on my phone.

I don’t get why android users on MR or pro-rcs fans get so sensitive when I and others say we don’t care about rcs, don’t need it, and are turning it off.

RCS is basically replacing SMS. And you most likely won’t be able to turn it off turning it and if you can it turn it off will probably most likely also turn iMessage off.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I don’t get why android users on MR or pro-rcs fans get so sensitive when I and others say we don’t care about rcs, don’t need it, and are turning it off.

I don't get it either

It's like when people get super sensitive about folks using 100% legal emulators

Hard to understand some of this stuff sometimes

 

[T0mmyR0t]

So a bunch of features that you can already get in other apps slapped with the “AI” label since that’s the new buzzword. Meanwhile Siri, a supposedly “smart” assistant that has been behind the competition for nearly a decade, will continue to suck with some kind of enhancements slapped on thanks to a partnership with OpenAI instead of being totally rewritten from the ground up which it’s been clear has needed to happen for 5 plus years now? It took them over a year to deliver this? WTF? Tell me I’m missing something here ….. please …… 😂

That isn't the worst of it. Recent news announcement suggests that as of third week of May 2024 Apple and OpenAI are still wrangling over terms. With WWDC only weeks away, that tells you that whatever Apple's leadership team are contemplating, the dev teams will have next to no time to develop them. Whatever will be offered will be rushed, half-baked, derivative and won't be ready till later this year. (That is signature software under the Federighi/Cook banner.)

That is not leadership. Or anything like it. After waking up to realise they've slept through the last decade of software innovation, Cook and Federighi's response is that of a student realising they have 2 days for their dissertation.

 

[turbineseaplane]

That isn't the worst of it. Recent news announcement suggests that as of third week of May 2024 Apple and OpenAI are still wrangling over terms. With WWDC only weeks away, that tells you that whatever Apple's leadership team are contemplating, the dev teams will have next to no time to develop them. Whatever will be offered will be rushed, half-baked, derivative and won't be ready till later this year. (That is signature software under the Federighi/Cook banner.)

That is not leadership. Or anything like it. After waking up to realise they've slept through the last decade of software innovation, Cook and Federighi's response is that of a student realising they have 2 days for their dissertation.

Yep - I suspect we are going to get a lot of "coming later this year"

If one is watching MS, Google and others and their AI efforts and expecting similar big announcements from Apple, I think they should be prepared to be disappointed

 

[spazzcat]

That isn't the worst of it. Recent news announcement suggests that as of third week of May 2024 Apple and OpenAI are still wrangling over terms. With WWDC only weeks away, that tells you that whatever Apple's leadership team are contemplating, the dev teams will have next to no time to develop them. Whatever will be offered will be rushed, half-baked, derivative and won't be ready till later this year. (That is signature software under the Federighi/Cook banner.)

That is not leadership. Or anything like it. After waking up to realise they've slept through the last decade of software innovation, Cook and Federighi's response is that of a student realising they have 2 days for their dissertation.

The features that will be announced this year are already probably in internal beta testing. That’s one of the reasons we’re hearing all these rumors. As internal betas are open to more employees more and more stuff leaks.

 

[spazzcat]

I don't get it either

It's like when people get super sensitive about folks using 100% legal emulators

Hard to understand some of this stuff sometimes

I have a feeling in this instance it’s more of the personality or the way the person is coming off. RCS has very few downsides. Theoretically apps like ‎WhatsApp could implement it, and we could have cross messaging, and we don’t have to install all these other messaging apps to communicate with people regardless of which platform they’re on.

 

[T0mmyR0t]

Which means they are in the sidelines watching the bubble and all the stupid mistakes and errors and horror stories.

That’s called being mature and responsible.

They have always let their competitors push out garbage product and then come from behind like a ninja with better moves.

On the contrary. This is a case of being caught sleeping through the last decade, then dad-dancing your way through it with worse moves. That feature list is pathetic.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I have a feeling in this instance it’s more of the personality or the way the person is coming off. RCS has very few downsides.

You're probably right

I'm agnostic on all of it and fully in favor of RCS if it makes it all "better" to deal with mixed blue and green bubble messages/conversation threads

 

[Tagbert]

You seem bothered that I don’t like the idea of rcs. Why idk lmao. I’m turning the feature off immediately and I have already told my friends not to use it when it comes to their iPhones.



I’m disabling it when given the Choice so itll
Be just sms and iMessage as it is now.

What do you think RCS will do to your phone? Are you really telling your friends with Android not to “use” it? How did they take it when you told them how to use their phones?

I don’t think that this is a feature that you can choose to use or not. It is just the way that your messages are sent to an Android phone.

 

[Tagbert]

Speech to text has existed since the 90s (see dragon naturally speaking), and no one called it AI software.

Speech to text is a result, not a technique. I don’ know what techniques Dragon was using but it might have been an early version of what we would now call AI. Certainly a lot of text to speech now does use explicit AI techniques. AI is not a single thing. It is an umbrella term for code that adapts as it executes. Transformers and LLMs are the most recent techniques.

edit: Machine learning is another term that Apple has been using for a kind of AI.

 

[T0mmyR0t]

But Gen Z today couldn't write a cogent sentence to save their lives. I mean, look at these forums.

I share that lament, and it scales up to a more dystopian future, I'm afraid. Anyone interested in a career in the creative industries would be well-advised to stay clear of AI and develop their latent abilities. With AI, those abilities simply remain latent / dormant. We're ushering in future generations who won't be able to compose music, write compelling fiction, sketch/draw, compose poetry etc. Apple got it correct in their latest advert – crushing the human experience – except, it isn't just Apple. All of big tech is complicit.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Can we just get auto correct to actually give "correct" suggestions again?

I literally have to wade through suggestions that aren't even actual words

Whatever they did to that feature has become so bad ... it's hard to believe they ship it like this.

 

[T0mmyR0t]

I'll withhold opinion/judgement until WWDC, but on the surface over half of those look like it'll be driven by the marketing folks who are being reactive vs. the designers, thinkers and folks at Apple who truly understand what a united, compelling human experience should be (side note: Apple has had a brain drain of those sorts of folks over the last 15 years... I couldn't tell you if there are any truly great ones left as all the ones I knew and respected left a while ago... I'm really hoping so as it's been feeling like they've been running off the fumes of legacy and ideas from the OG crowd for a while).

Oh and while we're at it, if you're going to give Xcode some great new capabilities how about finally replacing Xcode with a IDE that has some real Apple magic... all the cash on the planet and you're still rocking NextStep on steroids... great in 1985... not so much in 2025!

I've been saying exactly that for ages. Are you an Apple insider?

 

[TLuc]

I'm really curious to see if they can improve Siri.
What do they mean by "improved Safari web search"? Safary is not a web search engine.

 

[hans1972]

This really sounds like someone would say who would vote for the president that promises to make iPhones mandatory for all US citizens “because it will strengthen the ecosystem” 😂😂

It's always smart to have 10-20% of the people which views on phones I disagree with using Android.

 

[TLuc]

RCS is useful, it's just a better SMS - it's not replacing iMessage.

Yeah RCS is beneficial in general for mobile devices. SMS is very old, it's time for an upgrade.

 

[Tagbert]

Can we just get auto correct to actually give "correct" suggestions again?

I literally have to wade through suggestions that aren't even actual words

Whatever they did to that feature has become so bad ... it's to believe they ship it like this.

Your spelling suggestions may have picked up some mistyped words. You might try to reset that by resetting your keyboard dictionary.

For me, spelling suggestions have been much more relevant over the last year since the transformer ai was added.

 

[scorpio vega]

RCS is basically replacing SMS. And you most likely won’t be able to turn it off turning it and if you can it turn it off will probably most likely also turn iMessage off.

Sms is still the backup for rcs on android. When I used android I was able to turn off rcs and just stick to traditional sms when rcs was being unreliable as per usual.

Just like you can turn off iMessage and default to sms.

Yeah RCS is beneficial in general for mobile devices. SMS is very old, it's time for an upgrade.

I have no issues with SMS nor any benefit of rcs.

What do you think RCS will do to your phone? Are you really telling your friends with Android not to “use” it? How did they take it when you told them how to use their phones?

I don’t think that this is a feature that you can choose to use or not. It is just the way that your messages are sent to an Android phone.

rcs is not going to do anything to my phone. I just have no desire or need for it. Why is that so difficult to get? Just like I will turn off most of the AI Stuff if I can.

I am not telling my android friends anything. I thankfully have gotten most of them to switch to iPhones over the last few months. My newly converted iPhone friend did ask me about rcs in the group chat and I told him it’s basically the poor man’s attempt at iMessage for android (which it is) just far more unreliable (depending on which rcs protocol it is using).

Rcs isn’t replacing sms because for millions of ppl
There are some phones who still only use sms or have no data.

I don't get it either

It's like when people get super sensitive about folks using 100% legal emulators

Hard to understand some of this stuff sometimes

Emulators are legal. The way 99 percent of Mr and lagdroid users intend to use them is not legal.