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In Power On it said that AI features on device "will be supported by iPhone, iPad and Mac chips released in the last year or so" Does that mean that only iPhone 14 and 15 will get AI features and every other iPhone left behind?
If it does then it means their world class beating chips are not as good as Apple makes them out to be if only restricted to 14 & 15
 
Which means they are in the sidelines watching the bubble and all the stupid mistakes and errors and horror stories.

That’s called being mature and responsible.

They have always let their competitors push out garbage product and then come from behind like a ninja with better moves.
Or it’s more to do with not having an original idea & let’s nick our competitions idea & pass it off as our own
 
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So it's not my imagination that it's worse than before.
Definitely. And it learns nothing. Ever.

To make things worse: I switch constantly between 3 languages. Apple once said iOS would automatically switch keyboards (and thus languages and dictionaries) depending on the context, but that doesn’t work at all.

As a result everything get mixed up and autocorrect starts suggesting words from another language. From time to time, I need to reset the dictionary.
 
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You won’t say that anymore the first time you tell someone you’ve got the flu and you get a vomiting poop emoji with a runny nose generated just for you.

/s
It's Apple. I wouldn't be surprised if you're only allowed to generate leadership-approved cookware emojis the first 8 years. After that you can also change the color of fruits and that will be it.
 
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Finally a sensible android user lol. Well aside from using android haha but I digress 🤧

Yes you can turn iMessage off and just use traditional sms
There are a few reasons why I use Android and not an iPhone.
1) price, iPhones are so much more expensive than a lot of Android phones and I don't need an expensive phone,
2) I did not have a Mac until last year and I have had my Android phone just over 3 years now and I am not going to replace it unless I really have

3) I am not a fan of IOS, had a muck around with it a few times, but I prefer the way Android looks and work.

To be honest, if there was a decent linux based phone that had the apps I needed and at a decent price, I would go for that. The same as a computer, if there was the software i needed on Linux, then I would have gone for Linux and not a Mac.

As for RCS, I can understand why it is there, Google wanted a message system to act like WhatsApp and Imessage, the problem is very few network providers supported it, well not in the UK. there are some now, but I think they are only the main networks, I don't think any of the virtual networks, like smarty, who I am with supports it.
This is why Google had to step in and is why RCS messages will go through Google network.

I don't know how true it is, but I heard that the majority of people in the U.S. use WhatsApp anyway, so RCS on Iphone or Android is not going to make much difference.

A lot of people in the U.K still use SMS or some form of it and while WhatsApp is popular here, I don't think it gets the same amount of use as in the U.S.
I don't use WhatsApp myself, never found the need for it, I have a third party SMS app called Textra, Mainly because I like the way I can delay a message.

SMS is what it says on the tine, a short messaging service, allows me to send messages to people, without all the rubbish that we get these days with a million emojis and photos and that sort of thing. I have email if they want to send photos or videos.


I doubt I will ever get an iPhone, I normally keep my phones for as long as I can and then buy cheap again, mine cost me £130 and is a great phone, also having less power, i doubt any AI stuff will be chucked on it.

As for AI on the new MacOS, i expect that will only work on the newer macs, so my Mac mini2 pro will not be able to use it, hopefully, otherwise I will just aty on MacOS 14.
 
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RCS is basically replacing SMS. And you most likely won’t be able to turn it off turning it and if you can it turn it off will probably most likely also turn iMessage off.
I expect there will be some way to disable it, just like there is a way on Android to and as I have been told on here, a way to disable iMessage.
What you have to remember is that some people don't want all the gunk that comes with these other messaging services.
That is why I turned RCS of on my Android phone, well I use a different text app that don't support it.

It makes no difference what people use, at the end of the day if the receiver is using a system that don't support it then it will be received in good old SMS.
 
Android doesn’t live rent free in my head because I don’t use the subpar os anymore lol.

It doesn’t affect me at all. The few times I have to talk to an android user, that’s why I have sms which works just fine and dandy for me and millions of others.

This whole rcs thing is a way for android users deal with their inferiority complex (hence they are the only ones who care about having iMessage on android. Most day to day consumers don’t care or even know what rcs is).

I’m the resident tech for my circle so thanks for your incorrect opinion.
Ok, but for their benefit, explain it thoroughly to them why you don’t like it instead of just saying don’t use it. At least one of them may have a friend or family member who uses an Android phone and rcs might be beneficial for them in this instance.
 
Haha no. Only in the US they still use SMS or care about the colour of message bubbles. The rest of the world has moved on to cross platform solutions long ago.

It's still funny to see people discussing the merits of primitive or platform locked (and also primitive, let me know when replies to iMessages are as readable as on WhatsApp) messaging solutions.
I thought the U.S. mainly used Whatsapp. I know people in the U.S. and they only use SMS if they have to. I don't have WhatsApp, never used it, and I have no idea what it looks like and how it works. I don't know if it can send SMS to non-users. By the way I live in the U.K and while I do know a fair few people who use WhatsApp, as they keep asking me to use it, there are many I know that don't.

My view is I have enough ways to be contacted, good old home phone, mobile phone voice, SMS, email, Faceache messenger if they must and even send a message using Alexa if they really have to.
The last two I do try not to use unless it is not important.
 
When RCS comes to iMessage one of the main things it will do is enable more equivalent features to what you do with iMessage. That is a big part of RCS. It will probably be invisible to you but the messages you share to them will look better and have things like reaction icons. You might find that RCS actually helps you in this regard.
I am more surprised that Apple allowed RCS on their platform, i wonder how they talked Apple into that and how much money paseed hands.
 
Do you really think Apple are going to leak everything to Gurman before the event?

These are teasers. To whet your appetite. Details to follow. More after the event. And no doubt this is the foundation work to what is to come. The road map of where Siri and AI are headed. Feedback and usage stats are going to push this in useful ways.
Like they teased us with Siri 12y ago? Love your optimism.
 
In Power On it said that AI features on device "will be supported by iPhone, iPad and Mac chips released in the last year or so" Does that mean that only iPhone 14 and 15 will get AI features and every other iPhone left behind?
Apple just released two new M2 devices, the iPad Air. Also, the Vision Pro has an M2 chip. I would think that Apple would at least attempt to go back as far as the M2 And whatever A chip that translates to
 
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There are a few reasons why I use Android and not an iPhone.
1) price, iPhones are so much more expensive than a lot of Android phones and I don't need an expensive phone,
2) I did not have a Mac until last year and I have had my Android phone just over 3 years now and I am not going to replace it unless I really have

3) I am not a fan of IOS, had a muck around with it a few times, but I prefer the way Android looks and work.

To be honest, if there was a decent linux based phone that had the apps I needed and at a decent price, I would go for that. The same as a computer, if there was the software i needed on Linux, then I would have gone for Linux and not a Mac.

As for RCS, I can understand why it is there, Google wanted a message system to act like WhatsApp and Imessage, the problem is very few network providers supported it, well not in the UK. there are some now, but I think they are only the main networks, I don't think any of the virtual networks, like smarty, who I am with supports it.
This is why Google had to step in and is why RCS messages will go through Google network.

I don't know how true it is, but I heard that the majority of people in the U.S. use WhatsApp anyway, so RCS on Iphone or Android is not going to make much difference.

A lot of people in the U.K still use SMS or some form of it and while WhatsApp is popular here, I don't think it gets the same amount of use as in the U.S.
I don't use WhatsApp myself, never found the need for it, I have a third party SMS app called Textra, Mainly because I like the way I can delay a message.

SMS is what it says on the tine, a short messaging service, allows me to send messages to people, without all the rubbish that we get these days with a million emojis and photos and that sort of thing. I have email if they want to send photos or videos.


I doubt I will ever get an iPhone, I normally keep my phones for as long as I can and then buy cheap again, mine cost me £130 and is a great phone, also having less power, i doubt any AI stuff will be chucked on it.

As for AI on the new MacOS, i expect that will only work on the newer macs, so my Mac mini2 pro will not be able to use it, hopefully, otherwise I will just aty on MacOS 14.


WhatsApp is far more popular in UK/Europe than us. We definitely are a sms/imessage first crowd here in the US. In fact I mainly have WhatsApp to talk to my friends living in Europe even though they all have iPhones.

while I dont completely agree with your rationale for iOS and android, I appreciate you shading nonetheless.

We more or less feel the same about rcs despite differing mobile preferences.
 
Ok, but for their benefit, explain it thoroughly to them why you don’t like it instead of just saying don’t use it. At least one of them may have a friend or family member who uses an Android phone and rcs might be beneficial for them in this instance.
Sorry it’s not my responsibility or theirs to benefit android users because they chose an inferior Os.

As I told them, Rcs is a poor man’s iMessage and you aren’t missing much. It’s mainly to make texting with android better but most of us have iPhones so it’s irrelevant and google is largely pushing for it so if you are not big on google it’s not worth using.
 
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I've been saying exactly that for ages. Are you an Apple insider?
😂 think there's a group that thinks like that... nah, I'm a MR kinda guy... used to be on AI, but they really don't take to *any* criticism of Apple well as opposed to MR where speaking critically of Apple isn't attacked...seems to be a more balanced crowd here... maybe that's changed in the past years. To each their own.
 
WhatsApp is far more popular in UK/Europe than us. We definitely are a sms/imessage first crowd here in the US. In fact I mainly have WhatsApp to talk to my friends living in Europe even though they all have iPhones.

while I dont completely agree with your rationale for iOS and android, I appreciate you shading nonetheless.

We more or less feel the same about rcs despite differing mobile preferences.
Fair enough, I always thought WhatsApp was more popular in the U.S. What part don't you agree with? Iphones are expensive compared to a lot of Android ones. the cheapest Iphone in the U.K from what I can see is a iPhone SE,, around £429, with 64GB of storage space, mine has 128Gb and more ram, camera is better as well. The CPU and GPU may be a little slower on mine, but not that bothered, it is fast enough for what I need. My phone cost £129 as I said, so a lot cheaper than any Iphone.
Not all of us need super-duper fast phones, the same as not all people need super-duper fast computers or internet for that matter.
It is this sales stuff that is chucked at us to make people think they do.

As for not liking IOS, that is a personal thing, would I get used to it? Yes, just like I have got used to a Mac after 20 odd years with a Windows computer, but I got a Mac because I don't like where Windows is going, a Mac Mini uses a lot less energy than most Windows machine and can do more.
My main problem with IOS is the way everything is stuck onto one screen and Apple seems to lock it down more than what Andoird is.
But at the end of the day it is nice we have the choice.
 
It's Apple. I wouldn't be surprised if you're only allowed to generate leadership-approved cookware emojis the first 8 years. After that you can also change the color of fruits and that will be it.
Every comment you make is just anti Apple.
Remind me again you are here?

If you have something concrete you want to contribute, great.
Ways to improve things. Features you'd like to see.
But endless posts against management and emojis (which are actually controlled by an outside group, not Apple) add nothing to discussion.
 
You have no idea how complex and scaled this kind of development takes, bugs are just a normal part of the process, and the more you change the code the more chances there are to introduce bugs. Feature sets are being set right now for iOS 19. iOS 18 features would have been locked down around this time last year, which is why I don't believe most of the rumors that have been coming out that Apple is just starting to meet with X or starting on Y.
You have no idea what I know and where I have worked.

Bugs "being part of the process", is what is called "low expectations". As long as the majority have "low expectations" Apple will not spend the money to minimize bugs. Meaning that as long as customers accept bugs, there is no reason to fix them. Which exactly explains why Apple ignores a lot of bugs until the media calls out the bug.

A lot of children grow up to be criminals. Raising children with low expectations implies that a parent would feel that it is ok for their children to commit criminal acts. That also happens a lot and is one reason why we have so many criminals.

People tend to raise to expectations, which is why it is good to have high expectations.

In Apple's case we pay a premium price and should expect premium performance, including not having to put up with stupid and easily preventable bugs.
 
I expect there will be some way to disable it, just like there is a way on Android to and as I have been told on here, a way to disable iMessage.
What you have to remember is that some people don't want all the gunk that comes with these other messaging services.
That is why I turned RCS of on my Android phone, well I use a different text app that don't support it.

It makes no difference what people use, at the end of the day if the receiver is using a system that don't support it then it will be received in good old SMS.
RCS is an extention to SMS.

And people seem to forget it is the carriers who choose the file sizes they allow.

So when RCS comes to Apple, there will still be unhappy people because their 50G video file didnt get through...
 
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