Pystar can't fund a long term fight. They need to back off a clear error in choices. I'm not a "Fanboy", but I do favor Apple winning this fight.
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OK, so the $790 designer blue jeans on the left (half-price today, only $395) are not overpriced compared to the $48 Levi's jeans (marked down to $33) on the right, if you perceive the designer jeans to be a better value.
Now I understand Apple's margins.
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First off, I never said over priced, if I did I was talking about the CPU chip wars where intel charged to much. Sometimes I post really late and should be in bed, LOL.
What I'm am trying to say though is the last time I had a HACKNTOSH it ran a HOT P4 first Dou Core,
Now what I am saying is if the 6/12 cores really run this low (cool, as heat is the enemy of the overclocker), as an audio/video (A/V) guy, this would mean almost double if not more on stock cooling, at last 1/3 to 1.2, so 2.5 to 3.0 to 4.5 and in audio, that means a lot more plug ins in logic and in FCP, that means a lot more realtime effects or rendering speeds.
With regard to we never saw the price drops, we didn't someone simply said, YES WE DID and they were referring to the recent price drops, not the bi weekly price drops you would see on the PC side of things.
This new 6/12 core chip is going to interest a lot of people as Apple is going to charge a fortune for this but the beauty is, you can now buy a mother board that uses the chips that are closer and less expensive and when those prices drop on pricewathers, you can then buy it and swap it in.
A lot of people will be interested in this chip as we haven't seen anything this breakthrough since the first duo core.
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PC vendors don't drop their prices bi-weekly, either. They drop them with each product cycle, or keep set price points but add features at each product cycle. Just like Apple. X86 allows much faster product cycles than did PowerPC, so apple's prices, adjusted for inflation, are much lower than in the PowerPC days. This is not due to "recent" drops.
While bi-weekly isn't true, there are many cases of prices drops without model changes in the non-Apple Intel world.
For example, the Asus EEE Top touch all-in-ones dropped in price by about $150 in the first 6 months. Also, PC vendors sometimes keep producing an older model (but reduce the price) when a newer model came out (when the ET1603 came out with discrete graphics, the ET1602 with integrated graphics continued to be sold at a lower price).
This is not "just like Apple"!
While bi-weekly isn't true, there are many cases of prices drops without model changes in the non-Apple Intel world.
For example, the Asus EEE Top touch all-in-ones dropped in price by about $150 in the first 6 months. Also, PC vendors sometimes keep producing an older model (but reduce the price) when a newer model came out (when the ET1603 came out with discrete graphics, the ET1602 with integrated graphics continued to be sold at a lower price).
This is not "just like Apple"!
Apple also drops prices occasionally mid cycle. They also keep old products at lower price points (MacBook, iPhone). When PC vendors do this it has nothing to do with using intel. They do it to get rid of stock that isn't selling. Apple does it more rarely because apple doesn't need to do.
It's much more common in PC land, but I see your point. I can't think of any Apple ads that say "New, lower price" though when there isn't a product transition involved (like the 3Gs coming in above the 3G).
It's also not always "stock that isn't selling" - many times the older model continues to be manufactured and they get more profit even at the lower price (after fixed costs have been amortized, that's possible) by covering a broader market.
The fact that the 33$ Levi's will get you laughed out of that trendy bar and you won't get to spend the night with the hot babe that you saw hanging alone at the table in the back makes the 395$ well worth the price you should've payed.
It's not because you don't see the value in something superficial like designer jeans that it is not there for somebody.
Not to mention most Macs aren't overpriced and compare very well to equivalent systems (that's the most important part everyone seems to forget when comparing Macs to other brands).
So you think that any company can rip of GPL code and then sell it pissing off the company (Apple) and the creators of the open GPL code (OS X86 project) and you support these clowns?
You really live in a fantasy world and care nothing of people's hard work.
Plus to answer other posts Apple contributes to OPEN GPL with the Darwin Project & Webit that people's precious Google Chrome is based on.
So what else do you want Apple to give a away?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z5jU5nrlAo
Old... why yes. Same message... again... still....
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And Aiden, heres a special piece of propaganda, just for you.
DP, my bad. Dodgy country connection.
I am very glad its back up, I love the Mac OS, but seriously Apple products are simply overpriced.. Even the "Mac Mini's" are expensive and under spec'd.. If Psystar is still in the game then I think in the future Apple may consider making there systems cheaper.. If not then people would still be able to buy PC's and use OSX.. win-win for anyone looking to use Mac OSX..
You still don't get it do you?
If you think Mac's are too expensive buy a Windows machine.
But leave Apple alone. They are not bound to do anything just for YOU!!!!
And if you are silly enough to think that Pystar are in it for you well....
This is a lawyer game pure and simple.
I just hope the judge sees this latest move and slams these SOB's hard.
Sounds like a superficial woman if the label on my jeans is more important than what's in them.
And the Apple fans always boost the price of the PC by adding a bunch of features that may not be needed by the user.
That way they can claim that a $2500 quad core Mac Pro is a "better value" than a $1000 Core i7 system that's just as fast, has more memory, bigger disks, Blu-ray and a better graphics card.
And Aiden, heres a special piece of propaganda, just for you.
Let me know when Firefox has tab isolation and crash recovery....
Sounds to me like your quibble is more with Intel than Apple. Go build an equivalent to a Mac Pro -- and I don't mean Core i7, I mean exactly the same -- as in, Xeon. Then let's talk about price. FWIW, Newegg wants a thousand bucks for just the processor that powers the base Mac Pro.
You figured that out by yourself uh ? Maybe the fact I used the word superficial helped you. Yes, designer jeans' value is all in superficiality. What's wrong with that exactly ? The fact that you don't think superficial things are important doesn't mean they aren't to someone else. You judging them based on your needs doesn't make you a better person. Your wants and needs aren't superior to those of anyone else.
But that are found on the equivalent Mac. The fact that you don't need the features doesn't mean that you can compare a PC and a Mac in price by simply foregoing those features on the PC. If you don't see the added value those features provide, then by all means buy the PC and shut up.
The Mac isn't overpriced when you compare them side by side with equivalent systems (no Mini or iMac to a mid-tower PC which is the cheapest type of system there is) with the same features.
Try again... I think that it's $310 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117213).
The base Mac Pro uses the processor Aidenshaw showed you. The 55xx series is only used in dual cpu Mac Pros, the 8 core boxes.