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IF someone gives you a golden egg and it lays golden eggs, is the new master the genius? What if that new masters squeezes it and beats it and only gets 700 eggs. Is he still a genius?

And that brings me to this rant; 700B added was mostly from Chinese expansion. A baboon could have been in charge of Apple and added that market value. 3x as many phones, and how many did android sell? How much market share was lost around the world to andriod? Why is the Iphone only dominate in USA and Japan? Why is everywhere else android? When I go to Asian or Europe, i don't see Apple watches or apple phones.

But the Apple watch and Airpod are great products I give you that other than the 10k Apple watch. That was a bad move. Same with homepod (puke)

To be honest, I think shareholders should be screaming as Jobs would have added MUCH MUCH more.
If you understand business, yes.

Nothing about what Tom Cook is doing is easy. You still have to run the business, compete, and come up with new things.

Apple sells 3X as many phones as they did under Jobs. Their strategy is never the most market share. Their strategy is to make the best products for the most money.

Android is dominant in share because it’s cheap. No other reason.
 
Really? I've lived through Windows from 3.x and I don't remember a version so viscerally hated as Windows 8, not even ME.

There were reasons to like and dislike 8. Most people hated it because of the UI, which ironically (or tragically?) offered a better tablet mode that could be used on current Surface devices than 10 does. Generally, there are reasons to like and dislike 10 and macOS, and I never really get the 100% fanboy view on one OS vs another. For example, I'd love to use macOS but hardware wise all laptops that come with it are **** to me, beyond butterfly keyboard. I'd also like to run .NET stuff without having to run a virtual machine. Then again, I'd like a few more streamlined processes than the ones Win 10 gives

I use Win 10 at work for 8 hrs a day, so probably more than my iMac at home and I have to say... IT SUCKS same as previous versions

I'm curious what you do at work with Win 10 that makes you hate it. I ask because I see this a lot and am genuinely interested.
 
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Bought two new PC’s this year. 2018 base i3 Mac Mini 128 gig SSD with 3 years of Apple Care for $800.00. Bought a HP 8th gen i5 256 gig SSD 16 gigs of RAM and a 3 year on site warranty for the same $800.00. Being a Mac guy since 95 and always having a PC lying around I’m spending almost all my time on the HP. Lots of value in it can’t say as much about the Mini.

why would you expect a Mac mini to compete with a 8th gen HP? Everyone knows Macs cost more because of quality and macOS.
 
I'm curious what you do at work with Win 10 that makes you hate it. I ask because I see this a lot and am genuinely interested.

I use it for e-mails, Word, Excel and lot of internet access where security card access and certificates are involved. These things make my work complicated:

- Updates everywhere. Almost everyday it wants to install some updates and restart my computer.
- Bad network and user access management.
- Certificate management and workgroups management is PITA.
- Only now they added by default to have buIlt-in PDF print function
- Legacy user experience, still using windows and tabs dating back to Win 95
- Apps are tied together to window (as opposing to macOS where closing the window does not close app and you can have multiple windows of one app open)
- Bad design of managing bluetooth devices (in macOS I turn on my headphones, select them and connect to them and that's it... while in Windows there is no such option and I have to unpair and pair the headphones before I want to use them everytime)
- No Preview functions

That is what I could come up with from top of my head.
 
I use it for e-mails, Word, Excel and lot of internet access where security card access and certificates are involved. These things make my work complicated:

- Updates everywhere. Almost everyday it wants to install some updates and restart my computer.
- Bad network and user access management.
- Certificate management and workgroups management is PITA.
- Only now they added by default to have buIlt-in PDF print function
- Legacy user experience, still using windows and tabs dating back to Win 95
- Apps are tied together to window (as opposing to macOS where closing the window does not close app and you can have multiple windows of one app open)
- Bad design of managing bluetooth devices (in macOS I turn on my headphones, select them and connect to them and that's it... while in Windows there is no such option and I have to unpair and pair the headphones before I want to use them everytime)
- No Preview functions

That is what I could come up with from top of my head.

Thanks for sharing. I don't want to debate on any points, but having daily updates on an operating system... isn't that a good thing? I mean if they're trying to keep things updated. It's fine if you don't agree.
 
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Lenovo: Great keyboard, good prices, okay OS - Sales up big
Apple: Bad keyboard, bad pricing (storage pricing is a joke), great OS - Sales down

Seems pretty easy. Fix the keyboard, fix the storage...watch sales jump.

In 2012, the Macbook Air (!!!) had base 128GB of storage. 7 years ago. Searching for some (consumer) price history, in Mid 2013 a 128 GB SSD cost $92. Now a 500 GB costs $50, or a 1TB cost $100. The first price point for $500GB was in mid 2014 for $240.

So you could assume that Apple's 128GB SSD cost has gone from around $80 to probably $15?

The good, better, best on storage is really ****ing terrible, terrible, and acceptable on the storage side and then terrible, terrible, terrible on the price side.
Don't forget: Lenovo and their ThinkPad lineup are one of the most serviceable laptops in existence. Not only do you not lose your data when a mainboard has an issue (no soldered storage), you can upgrade your storage/ram [though ram is starting to be soldered], add WWAN after purchase, etc.

Their customer service is top notch too. I've had Lenovo repair free-of-charge [without having purchased accidental damage protection] my mainboard 3 times due to water damage. One repair happened a day after the previous repair because my daughter spilled water on it.

Louis Rossman also posted a video of him pouring water on a ThinkPad only for it to continue operating.

Also, why does Apple not have WWAN on their MacBook Pros in 2019? Like really.
 
why would you expect a Mac mini to compete with a 8th gen HP? Everyone knows Macs cost more because of quality and macOS.
Quite honestly, the quality is nice on the build of Mini but the H.P. can be easily opened up to make any mods which makes it kind of a wash. I use my boxes for work so they are behind the monitor and not really used as a status symbol so ultimately the build is a moot point for me. The OS is kind of a wash as well. Win 10 is much better at some things (CAD, PDF handling with Foxit, Office, Calculator, the way it handles Log Me In and a Remote Desktop). Mac OS is a little better at others. Example "Preview" is nice but it renders all PDF's blurry, not too cool! Mail is good and I like it. Pages will not format some Word documents and likewise with Numbers and Excel docs so I end up not really being able to use it. Safari is a nice browser and I love the way it seamlessly integrates with my iPhone and iPad. I do very much like the ease and aesthetics of Mac O.S. which is a big plus. The statement is about value, and the value is just not there. YMMV! Regards......Ed
 
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The the high end the prices are fine: Going from 1tb to 2tb on the 13 inch MacBook Pro costs £400, less than the equivalent price jump on the Samsung 970 EVO. I think what they are doing is "subsidising" lower end storage options by accepting a smaller profit margin

And when you consider this, it makes sense why the base MacBook Pro plus £200 256gb ssd is cheaper than the XPS 13 with Microsoft office included even when on offer, as they are now.

Um, you're full of it.

A 1TB Samsung 970 EVO on the UK Amazon site is £213.99 right now, a 2TB is £444.22. That's significantly less than a £400 difference.

Also, that 1TB price is highway robbery. They're $169.99 here.

There shouldn't be a 256GB MacBook Pro configuration in 2019. The base configuration should be 1TB by now, these are supposedly professional machines.
 
So MacOS still has single-digit marketshare. It's not even *high* single-digit anymore.

6% is not nothing, but in the context of OSes it can definitely be rounded to nothing. (Especially since it is still sub-1.0% in enterprise.)

On the bright side, at least they are reselling lots of low-quality Doctor Dre headphones at super high margins.

I'm sure that's pretty much the same thing as being the world's greatest product company. No fall from grace here.

#FIRETHEACCOUNTANT #COOKISTHENEWSCULLY
 
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Thanks for sharing. I don't want to debate on any points, but having daily updates on an operating system... isn't that a good thing? I mean if they're trying to keep things updated. It's fine if you don't agree.

For me it shows that it is full of holes and sloppy programming if you almost daily have to come with fixes and patches. I prefer macOS way to release update once in few months. And, of course, the core of macOS is much safer than Windows.
 
For me it shows that it is full of holes and sloppy programming if you almost daily have to come with fixes and patches. I prefer macOS way to release update once in few months. And, of course, the core of macOS is much safer than Windows.
I have a total of 17 quality updates on Windows 10 Pro since 1-19, Build 1809. Hardly every day, you must have something else going on?
 
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Lenovo: Great keyboard, good prices, okay OS - Sales up big
Apple: Bad keyboard, bad pricing (storage pricing is a joke), great OS - Sales down

Seems pretty easy. Fix the keyboard, fix the storage...watch sales jump.

In 2012, the Macbook Air (!!!) had base 128GB of storage. 7 years ago. Searching for some (consumer) price history, in Mid 2013 a 128 GB SSD cost $92. Now a 500 GB costs $50, or a 1TB cost $100. The first price point for $500GB was in mid 2014 for $240.

So you could assume that Apple's 128GB SSD cost has gone from around $80 to probably $15?

The good, better, best on storage is really ****ing terrible, terrible, and acceptable on the storage side and then terrible, terrible, terrible on the price side.

Another big problem -- "having only USB-C ports" isn't quite compatible to the whole world even now at 2019, and won't be for another 3-5 years, but on the extreme opposite, Apple jumped onto that totally wrong wagon early 2016!!! Really cannot imagine what **** is in the mind of that decision maker at Apple. This is THE most obvious proof that Apple is no longer the great Apple since years ago!
 
I have a total of 17 quality updates on Windows 10 Pro since 1-19, Build 1809. Hardly every day, you must have something else going on?

I don't know as it is company's laptop and not mine but the updates are almost on daily basis. Anyway, frequent updates are only one of many things that suck about Win 10. Btw since 1-19 there were 5 updates on macOS vs 17 on Win.
 
I don't know as it is company's laptop and not mine but the updates are almost on daily basis. Anyway, frequent updates are only one of many things that suck about Win 10. Btw since 1-19 there were 5 updates on macOS vs 17 on Win.
Oh yes I'm in total agreement in regards to Apple updates vs. Windows. Not nearly as many which I would say is the result of a very mature and stable O.S.
 
I don't know as it is company's laptop and not mine but the updates are almost on daily basis. Anyway, frequent updates are only one of many things that suck about Win 10. Btw since 1-19 there were 5 updates on macOS vs 17 on Win.
These updates have nothing to do with Windows. They are pushed by your IT (probably for a reason). Many of your other points are also debatable. For example, there are free apps for preview. Whether the app uses sing;e or multiple windows also has nothing to do with OS. It's the choice of the app designer and there are pros and cons for each design (often depends on the app purpose)
 
I don't know as it is company's laptop and not mine but the updates are almost on daily basis. Anyway, frequent updates are only one of many things that suck about Win 10. Btw since 1-19 there were 5 updates on macOS vs 17 on Win.
Except Windows 10 doesn't have daily updates. So it's not Windows.
 
The real question one needs to ask here is: Who's had the better track record?
Some differences between the two reports have quite simple explanation not offered in this article. The two companies use different definitions for what they consider to be a PC. For example, one company counts Chromebooks as PCs and the other does not. Conversely the former one won't count MS Surface ("tablets') as PCs and the latter one will. So people dismissing both reports because of the difference in numbers are simply missing the point.
 
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Apple needs some budget machines, rebranding of older machines (with lower prices) or lower pricing (on existing) to get more sales.
Could not agree more. Wish somehow Apple would take the big profits and lower the iMac cost to make them more affordable. Getting market share up would be a big plus.
 
I’d put my money on the first one being closer to the truth, judging by Apple’s move to cut (SSD upgrade) prices outside of a hardware refresh for most models. They almost never do that.

Penny pinching was starting to bite.

Yep. The recent pricing re think was very un Apple. They arent doing that if these machines are selling well.
 
IF someone gives you a golden egg and it lays golden eggs, is the new master the genius? What if that new masters squeezes it and beats it and only gets 700 eggs. Is he still a genius?

And that brings me to this rant; 700B added was mostly from Chinese expansion. A baboon could have been in charge of Apple and added that market value. 3x as many phones, and how many did android sell? How much market share was lost around the world to andriod? Why is the Iphone only dominate in USA and Japan? Why is everywhere else android? When I go to Asian or Europe, i don't see Apple watches or apple phones.

But the Apple watch and Airpod are great products I give you that other than the 10k Apple watch. That was a bad move. Same with homepod (puke)

To be honest, I think shareholders should be screaming as Jobs would have added MUCH MUCH more.
I think people underestimate the effort it takes to break into new markets.

First challenge would be the supply chain. To be able to sell over 200 million iPhones a year, you need to first be able to manufacture over 200 million iPhones a year. They don't just appear out of thin air. The same goes with products like the Apple Watch and AirPods which are quite difficult to manufacture. Tim Cook's forte is ensuring that Apple is actually able to manufacture the products they create at scale, because otherwise, the best-designed product in the world is moot if you can't make enough to sell.

Second is tackling the capricious political climate that China seems infamous for. I find that Tim Cook's steady hand has helped Apple weather a fair number of storms. I can't imagine Steve Job's acerbic tone going over well with the leaders and politicians on foreign countries.

The reason why the iPhone seems more popular in developed countries like the US and Japan is because of its price, and I see this as a strength, not a disadvantage. We are fast approaching 1 billion active iPhone users. Apple has aggregated the best customers who have a strong propensity to spend, and these are the people who then go on to purchase accessories like the Apple Watch and AirPods, as well as apps and services. This is why Google pays Apple $9 billion a year to access Apple's user base. I personally do not see the logic in selling cheap iPhones in a bid to win over profitless market share.

Let the rest of the world have their 84% android market share (or whatever the number is now). Every other day, a new piece of news breaks where some new malware is found on android devices. iOS continues to get the best apps first / exclusively. Android tablets and smartwatches are a joke. Even Spotify is selling user data now. Apple's tight control over its ecosystem ensures their products remain tightly-integrated with each other, and I am appreciating the efforts Apple puts into protecting my privacy. I certainly do not expect Google to go to the same extent.

If there is some benefit to Google or the android smartphone OEMs to having such a high smartphone market share, I am not seeing it. Likewise, if there is some drawback to iOS having such a low market share comparatively, I am not feeling it either.

To revise your analogy of the goose with the golden egg, it's like you received a golden goose but was then able to train the goose to lay even more eggs than before. Credit where credit is due. Truth be told, I’m not convinced Apple would have been better off with Jobs at the helm with the company at its current size and trajectory anyways. I have to wonder if he would have stepped aside anyway by now.
 
There's no surprise for this, Apple's Mac line is more expensive and you get less computer for the price. Lenovo is an excellent buy imo and an excellent laptop
 
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